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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 22:25:10 GMT
As a matter of fact, democracy was introduced in India (for the first time) with municipal elections in the 1870s. But only in the areas under direct British control, it didn't happen in the quasi-independent 'princely states' until many years later. Righto. So, the average Brit didn't get the vote until 1918, but the average Indian got it in the 1870s. Did the Empire allow the Indian people a vote on whether they remained under the direct control of the Empire? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 3, 2023 22:38:19 GMT
Sorry but the inanity of your questionings indicates you are too far behind in terms of your basic knowledge of the political situation in Imperial India for me to even begin any remedial instruction.
Basic bedtime reading: Rees, L., Raj: The making and Unmaking of British India.
Feel free to get back to me with any sensible questions when you've read up on the matter.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 22:40:19 GMT
Sorry but the inanity of your questionings indicates you are too far behind in terms of your basic knowledge of the political situation in Imperial India for me to even begin any remedial instruction. Basic bedtime reading: Rees, L., Raj: The making and Unmaking of British India. Feel free to get back to me with any sensible questions when you've read up on the matter. Hmmm, your interpretation of history is always original, Danny. Are you still a holocaust denier? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 3, 2023 22:42:48 GMT
You are a silly billy. Then you wonder why nobody takes your maunderings seriously.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 3, 2023 22:44:30 GMT
As a matter of fact, democracy was introduced in India (for the first time) with municipal elections in the 1870s. But only in the areas under direct British control, it didn't happen in the quasi-independent 'princely states' until many years later. Righto. So, the average Brit didn't get the vote until 1918, but the average Indian got it in the 1870s. Did the Empire allow the Indian people a vote on whether they remained under the direct control of the Empire? Of course not darling. They were allowed to choose which boot was on their neck though. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 22:45:02 GMT
You are a silly billy. Then you wonder why nobody takes your maunderings seriously. I desperately crave the intellectual approval of the white-trash Right, Danny. I've been reaching out to you for years now. Why won't you accept me? |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 22:45:26 GMT
Righto. So, the average Brit didn't get the vote until 1918, but the average Indian got it in the 1870s. Did the Empire allow the Indian people a vote on whether they remained under the direct control of the Empire? Of course not darling. They were allowed to choose which boot was on their neck though. Lucky bastards! |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 22:47:21 GMT
Raj: The Making and Unmaking of British India; In less that one hundred years, the British made themselves the masters of India. They ruled for another hundred, leaving behind the independent nations of India and Pakistan when they finally withdrew in 1947. Both nations would owe much to the British Raj: under its rule, Indians learned to see themselves as Indians; its benefits included railways, roads, canals, schools, universities, hospitals, universal language and common law.www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/678699Sounds interesting. Probably a bit above you Einy. Hey there may be a children's version, I'll have a look... |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 22:53:56 GMT
Raj: The Making and Unmaking of British India; In less that one hundred years, the British made themselves the masters of India. They ruled for another hundred, leaving behind the independent nations of India and Pakistan when they finally withdrew in 1947. Both nations would owe much to the British Raj: under its rule, Indians learned to see themselves as Indians; its benefits included railways, roads, canals, schools, universities, hospitals, universal language and common law.www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/678699Sounds interesting. Probably a bit above you Einy. Hey there may be a children's version, I'll have a look... Meanwhile, the ordinary British citizen was enjoying an endless stream of imported wealth in the luxury of his slum tenement. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 3, 2023 22:58:20 GMT
Raj: The Making and Unmaking of British India; In less that one hundred years, the British made themselves the masters of India. They ruled for another hundred, leaving behind the independent nations of India and Pakistan when they finally withdrew in 1947. Both nations would owe much to the British Raj: under its rule, Indians learned to see themselves as Indians; its benefits included railways, roads, canals, schools, universities, hospitals, universal language and common law.www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/678699Sounds interesting. Probably a bit above you Einy. Hey there may be a children's version, I'll have a look... Meanwhile, the ordinary British citizen was enjoying an endless stream of imported wealth in the luxury of his slum tenement. Plus there was full employment for children. People never want to see the positive side of Empire. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 23:00:32 GMT
Raj: The Making and Unmaking of British India; . They ruled for another hundred, leaving behind the independent nations of India and Pakistan when they finally withdrew in 1947. Both nations would owe much to the British Raj: . Not nearly as much as the Empire owed them. 45 trillion pounds at the last count, I believe. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 23:09:23 GMT
Raj: The Making and Unmaking of British India; In less that one hundred years, the British made themselves the masters of India. They ruled for another hundred, leaving behind the independent nations of India and Pakistan when they finally withdrew in 1947. Both nations would owe much to the British Raj: under its rule, Indians learned to see themselves as Indians; its benefits included railways, roads, canals, schools, universities, hospitals, universal language and common law.www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/678699Sounds interesting. Probably a bit above you Einy. Hey there may be a children's version, I'll have a look... Meanwhile, the ordinary British citizen was enjoying an endless stream of imported wealth in the luxury of his slum tenement. Indeed, that's because we were switched on you muppet. As Lawrence James said; The British were inovators, pioneers, inventors, engineers, leaders who dragged a quarter of the world from their mud huts and introduced them to railways, roads, canals, schools, universities, hospitals, universal language and common law. In short, the British introduced them to civilisation. And do they appreciate it, ungrateful gits. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 23:12:56 GMT
Meanwhile, the ordinary British citizen was enjoying an endless stream of imported wealth in the luxury of his slum tenement. Plus there was full employment for children. People never want to see the positive side of Empire. Lets not be silly Monte, many kids in many countries today enjoy conditions endured by Victorian kids in this country. But you already know that. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 3, 2023 23:13:44 GMT
Meanwhile, the ordinary British citizen was enjoying an endless stream of imported wealth in the luxury of his slum tenement. Indeed, that's because we were switched on you muppet. As Lawrence James said; The British were inovators, pioneers, inventors, engineers, LOL!!! The British people were and are all those things. That's why the murderous parts of British history can be so easily dispensed with. Most Europeans under a certain age don't even know about the British Empire, and they still have a very strong respect for the UK. Britain's status in the world has nothing to do with the shit you Gammons like to celebrate. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 23:23:33 GMT
Raj: The Making and Unmaking of British India; . They ruled for another hundred, leaving behind the independent nations of India and Pakistan when they finally withdrew in 1947. Both nations would owe much to the British Raj: Not nearly as much as the Empire owed them. 45 trillion pounds at the last count, I believe. Oh bugger where was it, I read something recently that gave a cash figure for the sum India owes Britain for... oh this is interesting not what I was looking for but interesting all the same; ... many empires other than the British have conquered India from elsewhere, such as the Ghorid Empire (from Ghor in Afghanistan; Mahmud of Ghazni invaded India 17 times, each time demolishing Hindu temples and carting away gold and jewels while the British, more archaeologically oriented, actually renovated long decaying temples) and Nader Shah of Persia in the 18th century. Calls for reparations here seem to be missing, even when the connection is made. For example, Iran and Iraq widely blame the Mongol conquests for destroying the irrigation systems that sustained them and their golden age, damage far exceeding European interference in those countries, but nobody seems to ask for reparations.
Akhilesh Pillalamarri. (Journalist, writer, analyst, and law school graduate focusing on international relations, global security, geopolitics) |
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