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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 6:50:40 GMT
You are just rephrasing your earlier statement that winning the vote equates with winning the argument and conversely, losing the vote equates with losing the argument. But the truth of the matter is that, especially in politics, you don't have to win the argument to win an election. Or a referendum, for that matter. For example, this thing about FoM; if FoM was in still place; the Port of Dover drama last summer wouldn't and couldn't have happened. That alone is a winning argument for reintroducing FoM. But here you are effectively declaring that you would not consider it. So you won all the arguments and still lost the vote?.. perhaps you were not as convincing as you thought.. I am saying it once more: winning an election or a referendum does not mean winning the argument. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 27, 2022 6:56:02 GMT
So you won all the arguments and still lost the vote?.. perhaps you were not as convincing as you thought.. I am saying it once more: winning an election or a referendum does not mean winning the argument. Fine - you keep telling yourself you have won the arguments and I will keep winning the votes.. Then we are both happy. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 27, 2022 8:21:10 GMT
Winning the votes based on lies you mean
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 8:31:57 GMT
I am saying it once more: winning an election or a referendum does not mean winning the argument. Fine - you keep telling yourself you have won the arguments and I will keep winning the votes.. Then we are both happy. It seems to me that remainism, which now looks to be a form of neurosis, believes they're more important than the process. I don't think they even have an argument anymore, and seem to rely on calling everything lies and insulting the electorate. I'm unsure why they believe this strategy works.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 27, 2022 8:39:01 GMT
Winning the votes based on lies you mean What lies ? |
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 27, 2022 9:21:12 GMT
Look at my posts what have you let yourself in for in this section of the forum.
And my post should we have another referendum in the Westminster section
They explain it all
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 9:22:48 GMT
I am saying it once more: winning an election or a referendum does not mean winning the argument. Fine - you keep telling yourself you have won the arguments and I will keep winning the votes.. Then we are both happy. Thanks. As long as you stop going round and round in circles, phrasing and rephrasing the same question, turning it inside out, backwards and forwards, seemingly in the hope that it would somehow turn into a valid argument; then I'm OK. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 9:27:17 GMT
Fine - you keep telling yourself you have won the arguments and I will keep winning the votes.. Then we are both happy. It seems to me that remainism, which now looks to be a form of neurosis, believes they're more important than the process. I don't think they even have an argument anymore, and seem to rely on calling everything lies and insulting the electorate. I'm unsure why they believe this strategy works.
Projecting much? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 9:42:30 GMT
It seems to me that remainism, which now looks to be a form of neurosis, believes they're more important than the process. I don't think they even have an argument anymore, and seem to rely on calling everything lies and insulting the electorate. I'm unsure why they believe this strategy works.
Projecting much? I don't see how. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 27, 2022 9:50:52 GMT
Have you got any prove to back retric up ? the prision stats foin 2017 says in England and Wales we had 4, 000 in mates 5% of the prison population we have aprox 13/14% ÷ EU citizens In this country compair that to the 12% other natiotionals in the prision population The wworldwide immigration has increased since Brexit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 9:58:21 GMT
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 27, 2022 11:03:09 GMT
Squeeze thanks for your links but they didn't prove Brexit had stopped more foreign criminals from coming in.
What they did show was that there been laws to improve deportation'proscute foreign criminals, and morr foreign criminals had been deported
What my post shows that Eu citizens were less likely to committed crime then other foreign criminals.
And seeing that immigration has increased since Brexit we have more foreign criminas.
Has a matter of fact British citizens are more likely to commit crime then EU citizens.
If I wanted to I could take this further and show crime stats have fallen and that where there been a large influx ot EU citizens the crime rate has fallen
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 27, 2022 11:26:00 GMT
So there were no other sources? All you have to back your bile is you say someone posted stupid on the old forum. IE not only no recognised figure said we'd be 'force fed chlorinated chicken' as you suppose but there's nothing on the web you can point to Or in short you made it up Here's some links: linklinklinkThey're pretty much the top results when you Google "Chlorinated chicken". As you well know. So will you now admit to lying like a cheap whore for the umpteenth time?  As I said, another line from project fear. I noticed steve hasn't been back in to talk more BS since. Well played. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 27, 2022 16:33:15 GMT
Fine - you keep telling yourself you have won the arguments and I will keep winning the votes.. Then we are both happy. Thanks. As long as you stop going round and round in circles, phrasing and rephrasing the same question, turning it inside out, backwards and forwards, seemingly in the hope that it would somehow turn into a valid argument; then I'm OK. Are you related to Jeremy Corbyn - he also thought he had won the argument whilst leading Labour to the biggest loss in 75 years.. |
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Post by sword on Oct 27, 2022 18:53:30 GMT
Thanks. As long as you stop going round and round in circles, phrasing and rephrasing the same question, turning it inside out, backwards and forwards, seemingly in the hope that it would somehow turn into a valid argument; then I'm OK. Are you related to Jeremy Corbyn - he also thought he had won the argument whilst leading Labour to the biggest loss in 75 years.. Well more than ten million voters liked his argument,if not for the deep state trash and some of them in his own party working overtime for Bunter he may just have won.democracy my arse. |
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