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Post by Pacifico on Oct 25, 2022 21:13:47 GMT
It matters little which way you voted then because as of now we left ,that is a matter of record and should be accepted to make a success of that decision. The decision was to leave. We left, no problem. That decision, therefore, has in every way been accepted and made a success of. That's done. Dusted. It is the decision taken once out of the EU that is the heart of the matter. That decision to take a hard, cultish and contentious stance on leaving the EU has, so far, failed. It is so hard and complicated we might as well have gone for No Deal. BJ's Brexit has been preventing us from making a real go of it.
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 25, 2022 22:40:15 GMT
We all know Brexit was a big con, but the whole thing could be over once and for all if we agree to share veterinary and food standards. Don't know how much anyone wants GM foods, but I suspect for the sakes of preventing a border in the Irish Sea, it is a sacrifice Sunak should consider given I doubt anyone cares whether we flood our supermarkets with yanky tat.
Can't say I've seen any Yankee tat in the supermarkets.
Remember when we were all going to be force fed chlorinated chicken?
That was another remnant fib.
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 25, 2022 23:04:11 GMT
I never cease to be amazed at the number of people who keep wanting to refight battles that they fought and lost years ago. We had all the arguments both for and against aired - the public then decided. If people want to rejoin the EU then persuade some Party to advocate it and then persuade enough people to vote for them - continually arguing over matters that were settled years ago is rather pointless. It's become an obsession for many to needlessly ruminate over. More likely than not from those who didn't get their own way in 2016. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 6:56:36 GMT
The decision was to leave. We left, no problem. That decision, therefore, has in every way been accepted and made a success of. That's done. Dusted. It is the decision taken once out of the EU that is the heart of the matter. That decision to take a hard, cultish and contentious stance on leaving the EU has, so far, failed. It is so hard and complicated we might as well have gone for No Deal. BJ's Brexit has been preventing us from making a real go of it.
BJ's brexit is the only one that Parliament supported. BJ's Brexit refers to the implementation of the Withdrawal Agreement after ratification including his decision to renege on that same agreement. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 7:10:04 GMT
I never cease to be amazed at the number of people who keep wanting to refight battles that they fought and lost years ago. We had all the arguments both for and against aired - the public then decided. If people want to rejoin the EU then persuade some Party to advocate it and then persuade enough people to vote for them - continually arguing over matters that were settled years ago is rather pointless. What never ceases to amaze and amuse is the seeming inability of BJ's Brexit promoters to distinguish between what's then and what's now. Or maybe inability is not the right word since it certainly comes across as a conscious and deliberate effort on their part. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 26, 2022 7:31:02 GMT
BJ's brexit is the only one that Parliament supported. BJ's Brexit refers to the implementation of the Withdrawal Agreement after ratification including his decision to renege on that same agreement. The WA is still in place - nobody has reneged on it. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 26, 2022 7:31:43 GMT
I never cease to be amazed at the number of people who keep wanting to refight battles that they fought and lost years ago. We had all the arguments both for and against aired - the public then decided. If people want to rejoin the EU then persuade some Party to advocate it and then persuade enough people to vote for them - continually arguing over matters that were settled years ago is rather pointless. What never ceases to amaze and amuse is the seeming inability of Brexit promoters to distinguish between what's then and what's now. Or maybe inability is not the right word since it certainly comes across as a conscious and deliberate effort on their part. So why are you still trying fight arguments you lost 6 years ago? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 7:38:25 GMT
So why are you still trying fight arguments you lost 6 years ag0 ?The arguments were not lost, they still hold true today they were just ignored. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 26, 2022 8:01:26 GMT
So why are you still trying fight arguments you lost 6 years ag0 ?The arguments were not lost, they still hold true today they were just ignored.Like many of your posts. I wonder why/....LOL |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 26, 2022 8:05:25 GMT
/quote]No actually that's you positioning a lie about what others have said. Go on se if you post a link of any provenance to back your bile Nonsense Steve, you know full well that those lies were being bandied about all over the old forum and elsewhere. The one positioning a lie, as usual, is you. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 26, 2022 8:45:09 GMT
We've left, but most of the world is heading towards recession due to Covid legacy debts and the added pressures from the war in Ukraine.
Inflation is exploding, everywhere.
The USA is on the brink of recession, that, more than any other country in the world is our biggest single export customer.
On a good year, the USA buys twice what Germany (when we were in the EU) buys from us.
We're facing a global recession and even if we'd stayed in the EU, we'd have huge inflationary problems, probably as bad as we've got.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 9:07:46 GMT
What never ceases to amaze and amuse is the seeming inability of Brexit promoters to distinguish between what's then and what's now. Or maybe inability is not the right word since it certainly comes across as a conscious and deliberate effort on their part. So why are you still trying fight arguments you lost 6 years ago? ^ Exactly as I suggested earlier: unable to or unwilling to distinguish between what's then and what's now. You seem to have convinced yourself that in politics winning the vote equates with winning the argument. So, why don't you tell us more about the arguments we supposedly lost 6 years ago? I mean, what are these arguments? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 9:12:36 GMT
BJ's Brexit refers to the implementation of the Withdrawal Agreement after ratification including his decision to renege on that same agreement. The WA is still in place - nobody has reneged on it. The truth is, the second you tried to renege on an agreement is the moment you reneged on it. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 26, 2022 9:21:28 GMT
No actually that's you positioning a lie about what others have said. Go on se if you post a link of any provenance to back your bile Nonsense Steve, you know full well that those lies were being bandied about all over the old forum and elsewhere. The one positioning a lie, as usual, is you. So you didn't understand a 3 syllable word 'provenance'  Let's make it simpler for you. Post up a decent link to back your bile because I'm calling your (and now Buccanner's) allegation total BS. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 26, 2022 9:23:19 GMT
It's on the old forum. As you well know. And which I now can't quote because it's gone. As you also well know.
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