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Post by Fairsociety on May 11, 2023 11:01:38 GMT
Wow that must be one of the most ignorant, uneducated posts to-date. Show me I am wrong please. If you don't already know, then there isn't any point.
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Post by Fairsociety on May 11, 2023 11:02:58 GMT
So like many other lefty woke snowflakes you haven't even bothered to find out what sort of complex they are being sent to, you just want to shout your outraged lefty anger because it's a Tory policy, typical of most lefty looneys. I have no problem with them being sent to a 'safe' third country, Rwanda is not, when the have been processed and failed in an asylum request. What I object to is the government stripping them of their right to claim asylum against international law. You appear to be happy that we could soon be joining a club that includes Russia and the like. So we can send them back to France?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 11:26:33 GMT
Archbishop of Canterbury condemns Illegal Migration Bill in LordsThe Archbishop of Canterbury will make a rare intervention in the House of Lords on Wednesday, to condemn the Government’s Illegal Migration Bill as it faces its first test in the upper chamber. Justin Welby will argue against the flagship legislation aimed at ensuring people who arrive in the UK in small boats would be detained and promptly removed, either to their home country or a third country such as Rwanda. The intervention, first reported in the i, would mark his second major rebuke of the Government’s treatment of migrants and asylum seekers. youtu.be/66WRbQmW6EISomeone should remind Welby that he is an unelected vicar speaking from an unelected house. He gets paid to virtue signal. He also believes in sky fairies hence his opinions should therefore be weighed with both of those in mind. He's also one of the most powerful people in the country.
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Post by Pacifico on May 11, 2023 11:49:43 GMT
If the Archbishop is so worried about the welfare of illegal migrants why doesn't he use some of the vast wealth of the Church to pay for their accommodation.
If the Church had to pay to house every illegal they would soon change their tune. As it is they have set a string of charities to avoid paying any tax at all.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 11, 2023 12:01:23 GMT
He gets paid to virtue signal. He also believes in sky fairies hence his opinions should therefore be weighed with both of those in mind. He's also one of the most powerful people in the country. Possibly. Although I'd suggest that his views have very little traction with the general public these days.
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Post by Bentley on May 11, 2023 12:01:34 GMT
Give billions to Afghanistan and Syria to stem migrants from Albania?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 12:01:37 GMT
Archbishop of Canterbury condemns Illegal Migration Bill in LordsThe Archbishop of Canterbury will make a rare intervention in the House of Lords on Wednesday, to condemn the Government’s Illegal Migration Bill as it faces its first test in the upper chamber. Justin Welby will argue against the flagship legislation aimed at ensuring people who arrive in the UK in small boats would be detained and promptly removed, either to their home country or a third country such as Rwanda. The intervention, first reported in the i, would mark his second major rebuke of the Government’s treatment of migrants and asylum seekers. youtu.be/66WRbQmW6EISomeone should remind Welby that he is an unelected vicar speaking from an unelected house. He is also a leading figure within a particular Christian denomination and has a right to speak out on behalf of what he perceives as the Christian values he and many of his flock believe in. This is particularly the case when he and much of his flock perceive the government to be acting in ways that fly in the face of Christian values. That doesn't necessarily make him right of course, but he has every right to speak out. The fact that you and others with little sense of Christian charity would rather he were silenced because you dont like what he has to say is a piss poor argument, and a definite case of tough shit on you, I say/
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Post by Bentley on May 11, 2023 12:07:56 GMT
If Welby ‘ spoke out’ against anything woke or left wing the ones who support would be posting shit about choirboys and talking snakes. Welby should take off his dog collar and frock for a while and live in areas where high concentrations of ‘ refugees’ abound .
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Post by Fairsociety on May 11, 2023 12:08:57 GMT
The people in the UK are now fed up with the powerful and wealthy members of society who will not be in any way shape or form personally effected by masses of illegal boat people flooding the UK. It's jaw dropping to expect the ordinary people of the UK many of which are homeless themselves, and those who are struggling to keep their heads above water to shoulder the burden of these illegal migrants.
They are now being placed in already deprived areas of the country, and then having the audacity to complain about their conditions, when they are being fed, watered, clothed and housed in F R E E accommodation. It has now turned in to a utter farce, and these illegal boat people should be put in the most affluent areas of the country, , we'll soon see the mood change, starting with the areas where 778 Lords are living, we could move them in next door to them.
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Post by andrewbrown on May 11, 2023 12:12:13 GMT
Put it this way he is not a politician he is an Archbishop with a view and has been asked to give that view in the HoL, that is why he is there. Who asked him to poke his nose in?
He is not there to poke his nose in to government policies, he's got his own platform to do that, if he wants to give his 'opinions' on matters that don't concern him he's got his own place of worship he can do that from, I didn't notice him poking his nose in and wanting his voice to be heard when it came to historic child sex abuse within the Church, is this the same outspoken Justin Welby we are talking about?... can't be surely.
You do understand the role of the House of Lords, right!? You think that they should "keep their noses out of the government's business"? And you really just wrote that on a political forum?
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Post by Bentley on May 11, 2023 12:14:29 GMT
The people in the UK are now fed up with the powerful and wealthy members of society who will not be in any way shape or form personally effected by masses of illegal boat people flooding the UK. It's jaw dropping to expect the ordinary people of the UK many of which are homeless themselves, and those who are struggling to keep their heads above water to shoulder the burden of these illegal migrants. They are now being placed in already deprived areas of the country, and then having the audacity to complain about their conditions, when they are being fed, watered, clothed and housed in F R E E accommodation. It has now turned in to a utter farce, and these illegal boat people should be put in the most affluent areas of the country, , we'll soon see the mood change, starting with the areas where 778 Lords are living, we could move them in next door to them. That is exactly right. The virtue signallers in the HOL will never experience the negative affects of uncontrolled immigration. Welby is playing to the crowd, he doesn’t mention negative affects that uncontrolled immigration has because he doesn’t care and if he does he is too cowardly to mention them.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 12:18:34 GMT
He's also one of the most powerful people in the country. Possibly. Although I'd suggest that his views have very little traction with the general public these days. It was the same with his predecessor under Blairism. The CEO lost the support from the traditionalists in England long ago, and now seem to insist on being relevant on issues that are supported in the leftist media. Unfortunately, we cannot remove him, we can only personally disown the institution and make it as irrelevant as humanely possible whilst hoping for the best. It's no surprise that the loony Left would be sucking up to him.
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Post by Toreador on May 11, 2023 12:20:28 GMT
Wow that must be one of the most ignorant, uneducated posts to-date. Show me I am wrong please. Not much of a challenge.
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Post by Toreador on May 11, 2023 12:25:50 GMT
Welby will count it as a success if just one of millions of Catholics or Moslems convert to Protestant.
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Post by Fairsociety on May 11, 2023 12:28:35 GMT
Who asked him to poke his nose in?
He is not there to poke his nose in to government policies, he's got his own platform to do that, if he wants to give his 'opinions' on matters that don't concern him he's got his own place of worship he can do that from, I didn't notice him poking his nose in and wanting his voice to be heard when it came to historic child sex abuse within the Church, is this the same outspoken Justin Welby we are talking about?... can't be surely.
You do understand the role of the House of Lords, right!? You think that they should "keep their noses out of the government's business"? And you really just wrote that on a political forum? So what you are telling us with a straight face, that these migrants will be placed anywhere near any of these 778 Lords live .... LOL
Honestly you should become a comedian, or better still a clown.
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