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Post by sheepy on May 12, 2023 17:51:06 GMT
Maybe he should stick with preaching to his own flock a bit like the other religious leaders in the UK. Rather than preach on their behalf. Not like it is a two-way street after all. Maybe he should just do what he thinks Jesus would have done. He is an Archbishop, after all. I guess then Jesus has lost the faith in the mind of the Archbishop as Christianity is in retreat pretty much everywhere.
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Post by Einhorn on May 12, 2023 17:52:19 GMT
Maybe he should just do what he thinks Jesus would have done. He is an Archbishop, after all. I guess then Jesus has lost the faith in the mind of the Archbishop as Christianity is in retreat pretty much everywhere. I'm pretty sure the Archbishop is a Christian.
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Post by wapentake on May 12, 2023 17:53:51 GMT
Mental health issues aren’t fun for anybody that suffers them,talking about them in general I don’t see a problem but is it fair to this all becoming personal between you,just my opinion. Darling does this as a debate technique. He uses ad Homs when things don’t go his way , repeats lies and harks back to what was said or was claimed by a poster in the past . This in itself is a fallacy called ad hominem Tu quoque. I actually removed my post but since you quoted it I stand by it,this is imo all too personal.
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Post by Toreador on May 12, 2023 18:09:36 GMT
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Post by Bentley on May 12, 2023 18:31:32 GMT
Darling does this as a debate technique. He uses ad Homs when things don’t go his way , repeats lies and harks back to what was said or was claimed by a poster in the past . This in itself is a fallacy called ad hominem Tu quoque. Nah, Benny. You probably had everybody's admiration when you openly discussed your struggle with depression. Everybody probably thought Good for you, on the Left and the Right. It could happen to anyone, and anyone who steps up and takes action to destigmatise it is to be applauded. But you couldn't help yourself, could you? Eventually, your inner gammon got the better of you, and you had to join in mocking and ridiculing a group of people who, by your own admission, also suffer from mental health issues. We don't know the answer to the transgender issue. But reasonable people will prefer the expert opinion of trained medical professionals over the untrained opinion of people who believe in talking snakes. Nah. I mentioned it and you use it to troll just as you make up lies to troll. You abuse mentally ill people and repeat lies to justify your abuse. With friends like you the mentally ill do not need enemies. Anyone who has a child with issues should keep you well away from them.
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Post by Bentley on May 12, 2023 18:37:37 GMT
Maybe he should just do what he thinks Jesus would have done. He is an Archbishop, after all. I guess then Jesus has lost the faith in the mind of the Archbishop as Christianity is in retreat pretty much everywhere. I suspect that Jesus never wanted his religious sect to become anything like the CofE. In fact I guess he would be horrified .
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Post by Handyman on May 12, 2023 18:59:46 GMT
That's not quite accurate.
"The House of Lords debates legislation, and has the power to amend or reject bills. However, the power of the Lords to reject a bill passed by the House of Commons is severely restricted by the Parliament Acts".
They can make or break bills, watering them down to the point of 'what's the point'?
They are also swayed, bribed with incentives to vote in certain ways, so this also makes them a 'corrupt' House of Lords, that will sell out to the highest bidder.
Time is was disbanded and replaced with a maximum of 100 ordinary people, picked out in a similar manner to those chosen for Jury Service, ordinary, men women on the streets, or however they identify themselves as these days.
It is accurate. The lords can't block bills aside from a couple of exceptions. They can propose amends but the commons can reject and override them. The most the Lords can do is delay a bill for a year - See Parliament Act 1911 as amended by Parliament Act 1949 The justification for this act was that the lords shouldn't have the ability to block the commons because the commons has a mandate on account of its members being elected. The act is seldom invoked because the Lords usually back down if the house of commons is resolute about doing something, however in recent times the Hunting Act 2004 is a prime example of legislation being enacted despite the house of Lords objecting. When push came to shove the commons got its way because it has the last word, not the lords. one of the key exceptions to this is that the commons cannot force through an act to extend the length of a parliamentary term without the lords agreeing. The house of Lords serves a useful purpose. Not only is it an important safeguard, it promotes better legislation by letting people with experience give bills the once over, suggest amends that would make for better or more watertight legislation, and it also serves to introduce a 'lets take a breath, lets think about this for a beat, do we really want to do this and is this the right way to do it" mechanism. It makes for better legislation. Taking 100 random people off the street would unlikely result in better outcomes or provide the safeguards to the same level of robustness that the Lords does in its current form. I agree " Quality Control of the Commons " if I remember correctly Labour under Blair used the Parliament Act on at least one occasion to force a Bill though
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Post by Einhorn on May 12, 2023 19:08:01 GMT
Nah, Benny. You probably had everybody's admiration when you openly discussed your struggle with depression. Everybody probably thought Good for you, on the Left and the Right. It could happen to anyone, and anyone who steps up and takes action to destigmatise it is to be applauded. But you couldn't help yourself, could you? Eventually, your inner gammon got the better of you, and you had to join in mocking and ridiculing a group of people who, by your own admission, also suffer from mental health issues. We don't know the answer to the transgender issue. But reasonable people will prefer the expert opinion of trained medical professionals over the untrained opinion of people who believe in talking snakes. Nah. I mentioned it and you use it to troll just as you make up lies to troll. You abuse mentally ill people and repeat lies to justify your abuse. With friends like you the mentally ill do not need enemies. Anyone who has a child with issues should keep you well away from them. Is it okay with you if I attach more weight to the opinion of the medical experts than some gammon who believes in talking snakes?
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on May 12, 2023 19:11:23 GMT
Welby suffers from depression that he says causes him to loathe himself. He also says that God speaks to him through the mouths of those he associates with. Does he wonder if it's God speaking when people criticise views that he has that he previously thought God had approved of through someone else's mouth? He may have started the conversation believing that God was speaking through them then suddenly found that they were saying things that contradicted what God had said through the mouths of other people. I think he'll only be happy if when he thinks God is speaking to him nothing is said that doesn't come across to him as God's "Love"... God's approval of his beliefs and actions. He wants everybody "of status" who he associates with to "love and respect" him. There is a technique used by some psychologists that focuses on subtle nuances within clients' responses ... "Why did you say that word/phrase as if there's something that was bothering you about the thoughts behind it?" sort of thing. When subjected to this prominent people holdng down sophisticated roles in society can burst into tears and open up about how they felt that one or both of their parents didn't love them. These psychologists are known as "Magicians" in the trade ... there's no "beating around the bush" with them.
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Post by Pacifico on May 12, 2023 21:11:57 GMT
Moderation Notice
I have moved 7 pages of twaddle to a new thread in 'Members Bar' called 'Bitching' - this thread is about the Archbishop of Canterbury, not who has what mental illness.
Please keep to topic.
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Post by thomas on May 13, 2023 12:28:31 GMT
He is also a leading figure within a particular Christian denomination and has a right to speak out on behalf of what he perceives as the Christian values he and many of his flock believe in. This is particularly the case when he and much of his flock perceive the government to be acting in ways that fly in the face of Christian values. That doesn't necessarily make him right of course, but he has every right to speak out. The fact that you and others with little sense of Christian charity would rather he were silenced because you dont like what he has to say is a piss poor argument, and a definite case of tough shit on you, I say/ Christians are a dying breed in this once Christian country, thanks largely to the fact that the people who are invading us, Red i cant believe you said this with a straight face. Christianity was brought to these islands by invaders , and these islands have had many religions over the millenia.All brought here by invaders.
Fuck christianity. As i said up the thread who the fuck is the archbishop of canterbury? Im not sure anyone gives a flying fuck what some pampered archbishop of a dying religion has to say on anything.
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