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Post by Bentley on May 10, 2023 9:24:52 GMT
That the rest of the world don't like us, the globalists have bypassed the vote leave anyway and so have the government unless you are blind and stupid. No all they don't like is not being in control, which they really weren't for a minute or two. I already said in the post that you replied to that the rest of the world doesn’t like us. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 9:30:44 GMT
The result was implemented my question was "if another ref is held now and re-join won, why would people be upset". People would not be upset if the sort of constraints the remainers wanted were invoked. i.e. minimum two thirds majority, only the truth being allowed in canvassing!! These were things said after remain lost. Surely that would disqualify the Tories from campaigning? It should have been two thirds voting to leave, but it was was it was and should remain what it was. The reason you lot 'fear' another referendum is because you know you would lose and we would re-join. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 9:47:00 GMT
My personal opinion is that IF a minority Labour government could be supported by a Lab-Lib pact or coalition, and IF the Lib Dems put a price on such an agreement, then there could be compromise.
The Labour leader could agree to a referendum on joining the Single Market, the wider European Economic Area, same as Norway and Iceland.
WE do allready have a majority in favour of rejoinning the EU in this country, because EVERY opinion poll shows this.
If Kier Starmer explained to the British people that belonging to the European Economic Area would boost our economy ( which it would ), then I believe the margin of YES votes over NO votes would be much greater than the margin in 2016.
Its called compromise, compromise for the good of the UK, for business, and for jobs and prosperity
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Post by Pacifico on May 10, 2023 10:30:52 GMT
If Kier Starmer explained to the British people that belonging to the European Economic Area would boost our economy ( which it would ), then I believe the margin of YES votes over NO votes would be much greater than the margin in 2016. would you be demanding a confirmatory referendum if this were the case - or would one vote be good enough? |
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Post by wapentake on May 10, 2023 10:41:22 GMT
If Kier Starmer explained to the British people that belonging to the European Economic Area would boost our economy ( which it would ), then I believe the margin of YES votes over NO votes would be much greater than the margin in 2016. would you be demanding a confirmatory referendum if this were the case - or would one vote be good enough? Don’t be silly that only applied if you lost the first one,that is not right now for any future vote,apparently.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 10:50:24 GMT
A wise man once said that the Brexit referendum was rather like voting to either move home, or not move home, either YES or NO.
However, if we voted YES, we would not know where we are actually moving to
The question on the ballot paper in 2016 asked us if we wanted to leave the European Union, it DID NOT then give us a choice of remaining part of the EEA, as in for example Norway, or cutting all economic ties with our neighbours.
A referendum on restoring the Single Market would solve many problems, including in Northern Ireland, it would also boost our economy, and make doing business much easier for all.
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Post by Bentley on May 10, 2023 11:14:21 GMT
A wise man once said that the Brexit referendum was rather like voting to either move home, or not move home, either YES or NO. However, if we voted YES, we would not know where we are actually moving to The question on the ballot paper in 2016 asked us if we wanted to leave the European Union, it DID NOT then give us a choice of remaining part of the EEA, as in for example Norway, or cutting all economic ties with our neighbours. A referendum on restoring the Single Market would solve many problems, including in Northern Ireland, it would also boost our economy, and make doing business much easier for all. The inference would be a total break . An even wiser man said Brexit was like leaving a perceived abusive spouse. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 15:34:45 GMT
A wise man once said that the Brexit referendum was rather like voting to either move home, or not move home, either YES or NO. However, if we voted YES, we would not know where we are actually moving to The question on the ballot paper in 2016 asked us if we wanted to leave the European Union, it DID NOT then give us a choice of remaining part of the EEA, as in for example Norway, or cutting all economic ties with our neighbours. A referendum on restoring the Single Market would solve many problems, including in Northern Ireland, it would also boost our economy, and make doing business much easier for all. But you can't have access to the single market without having the "Four freedoms". We were never offered that on its own. And your fabled majority to re-join the EU is just that, a fable. |
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Post by thomas on May 11, 2023 6:34:49 GMT
every 5 years you hold a vote , and the winner has the result implemented , then so on.
Did you see the bit starmer and labour tried to miss out in 2016? The result was implemented my question was "if another ref is held now and re-join won, why would people be upset". rubbish. No one who values democracy would be upset. The point im making continuously , which clearly you have no answer to , is labour and starmers recent political history of trying to stop a referendum result being implemented because they lost .
Further , starmer doesnt even have the balls to stand on a rejoin ticket.
You can bleat , divert , and throw all the bullshit around you want all day long , but you wont stop folk remembering starmers anti democratic stance from 2016 to 2019.
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Post by thomas on May 11, 2023 6:38:04 GMT
the snp will help also red. snp lib dem pro european scot indy government propping up new labour over the english inst going to go down well though im thinking. Do you think the snp and lib dems can take starmer back to the left though? I am not sure we can count on anything. of course we cant count on anything. What we can see is that the never ending cycle of the uk populace being forced down an alleyway , and told to pick between dumb and dumber , has left the uk in the absolute state that it is in today.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 7:34:53 GMT
It would be interesting, although it wont happen, if the Tories become a minority government and ask the LibDems to form a coalition, again, or even the SNP.🤣
I doubt the LibDems will agree having nearly got wiped out a few years ago and the SNP would just laugh at them.
That leaves the DUP who will do anything for a £b quid.😂
The pot calling the kettle black, really does come to mind.
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