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Post by wapentake on May 6, 2023 8:28:09 GMT
And some not my king protestors arrested in London this morning.
Whether you agree or not they have the right to stand on the sidelines unlike just stop oil who block the highway and get away with it.
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Post by sandypine on May 6, 2023 8:51:27 GMT
And some not my king protestors arrested in London this morning. Whether you agree or not they have the right to stand on the sidelines unlike just stop oil who block the highway and get away with it. I agree. Did not the same thing happen with Chinese protestors about 20 years ago when the Chinese leader arrived. I suppose the only argument I can see is if one holds up banners and placards then it is blocking the view of those behind. Pretty feeble I know. |
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Post by Tinculin on May 6, 2023 8:56:21 GMT
I’m not trying to be rude here but what or why did you think the Uk has freedom of speech?
We’ve never had it.
Edit: I agree we should btw, but without it, the govt is free to move the ‘line’ of what and when it’s acceptable to say things as it sees fit.
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Post by walterpaisley on May 6, 2023 8:56:53 GMT
Did not the same thing happen with Chinese protestors about 20 years ago when the Chinese leader arrived. I was there. The police also never lifted a finger to prevent Chinese security personnel from photographing (very conspicuously) faces of protestors. My friend, on the day, chatted up one copper, who allowed her to hold up her banner in pole position as the motorcade swept into Downing Street.. |
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Post by wapentake on May 6, 2023 8:59:47 GMT
I’m not trying to be rude here but what or why did you think the Uk has freedom of speech? We’ve never had it. You can be as rude as you like you own the place   Well was trying to make the point that some are allowed more freedom than others When it suits |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 9:01:07 GMT
And some not my king protestors arrested in London this morning. Whether you agree or not they have the right to stand on the sidelines unlike just stop oil who block the highway and get away with it. I agree. Did not the same thing happen with Chinese protestors about 20 years ago when the Chinese leader arrived. I suppose the only argument I can see is if one holds up banners and placards then it is blocking the view of those behind. Pretty feeble I know. The terrorist threat is most likely very high. Sure, it sounds feeble, but there are several sources of attack thesedays. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 10:04:29 GMT
I’m not trying to be rude here but what or why did you think the Uk has freedom of speech? We’ve never had it. You can be as rude as you like you own the place Well was trying to make the point that some are allowed more freedom than others When it suits Maybe the police did them a favour, removing them to a place of safety before they were dealt with by the crowd. |
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Post by wapentake on May 6, 2023 10:14:52 GMT
You can be as rude as you like you own the place Well was trying to make the point that some are allowed more freedom than others When it suits Maybe the police did them a favour, removing them to a place of safety before they were dealt with by the crowd. Perhaps,if only the same had applied to the stop oil protestors. |
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Post by jonksy on May 6, 2023 11:47:10 GMT
Maybe the police did them a favour, removing them to a place of safety before they were dealt with by the crowd. Perhaps,if only the same had applied to the stop oil protestors. I am not sure is speaker's corner been removed by the woke brigade? |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 13:33:06 GMT
You can be as rude as you like you own the place Well was trying to make the point that some are allowed more freedom than others When it suits Maybe the police did them a favour, removing them to a place of safety before they were dealt with by the crowd. Would not the police have had to protect them from the 'crowd'. Are we not a free people? |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 13:35:08 GMT
We all know the law is not equally applied. Is anyone surprised?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 15:15:20 GMT
I agree with the opening post - and as that famous quote goes "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death, your right to say it".
As stated in a different post, I am a true and loyal supporter of the British Crown, but I am also a supporter of British values, as set out in such things as The Bill Of Rights and The Magna Carta, as ancient as the coronation ceremony we saw today.
People have a right to peaceful protest - even Republicans
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Post by sandypine on May 6, 2023 15:52:07 GMT
I agree with the opening post - and as that famous quote goes "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death, your right to say it". As stated in a different post, I am a true and loyal supporter of the British Crown, but I am also a supporter of British values, as set out in such things as The Bill Of Rights and The Magna Carta, as ancient as the coronation ceremony we saw today. People have a right to peaceful protest - even Republicans They do indeed, that however becomes difficult if others attack the protestors. There is also the issue of 'disruptive' and where peaceful spills over into disruptive and where the line is drawn between disruptive and antagonistic and who gets to decide. The Colston statue was effectively a protest that became disruptive and then criminally damaging as the police watched. If rioters ransacked one's house whilst the police watched and then were cleared in court it would be a pretty rum do. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 15:57:32 GMT
Yes sandypine, but there appears to be no evidence that these republicans were disruptive or were intent on causing a nuisance, or spoiling other peoples enjoyment, otherwise I would agree with you.
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Post by thomas on May 6, 2023 16:00:31 GMT
Yes sandypine, but there appears to be no evidence that these republicans were disruptive or were intent on causing a nuisance, or spoiling other peoples enjoyment, otherwise I would agree with you. You never answered my earlier post sid. So what do you think ? Will labour be propped up to rule over england by the SNP at the next election ?
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