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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 14:02:54 GMT
Labour would fall short of an overall majority in parliament, a vote share projection shows following local elections in England.
Based on analysis of change in vote share across 1,500 wards Labour is the most popular party with 36%, with the Conservative share 29%, Lib Dems with 18% and others standing at 17%.
See full local election results here
Assuming a uniform national swing and applying these to the seats decided at the last general election, Labour would be on course to become the largest party at the next election.
It would gain 95 seats - to an improved total of 298 in this projection - the highest number since Labour won the 2005 general election, but 28 short of an overall majority.
You are forgetting, perhaps like the 'projection', that not the whole country went to the polls and the turnout is a lot lower for council elections, bearing that in mind another projections say they will be a majority government. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 14:03:45 GMT
I read in the press that demonstrators were going to use rape alarms to spook the Royal Horses, so who in their right minds would hand them out prior to the parade? When you think about it, what's rape prevention got to do with a royal coronation? They could hand those out on any day. Why that day? Rat, smelt, much? I have heard that they took rape alarms off women.š |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 14:05:20 GMT
It is called so in the navy when the Union flag is flown from the jack-arm. I agree but the flag on shore can also be referred to as the Union Jack as an extension of the navy term on land but this seems to be accepted by many 'authorities'. It may be that is how sailors ashore still referred to it who knows, I prefer Union Jack as opposed to Union Flag it has a happier friendlier sound. I agree it is used broadly in the country but it is still a navy term. I do sometime call it that myself.š |
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Post by thomas on May 7, 2023 15:11:01 GMT
Labour would fall short of an overall majority in parliament, a vote share projection shows following local elections in England.
Based on analysis of change in vote share across 1,500 wards Labour is the most popular party with 36%, with the Conservative share 29%, Lib Dems with 18% and others standing at 17%.
See full local election results here
Assuming a uniform national swing and applying these to the seats decided at the last general election, Labour would be on course to become the largest party at the next election.
It would gain 95 seats - to an improved total of 298 in this projection - the highest number since Labour won the 2005 general election, but 28 short of an overall majority.
You are forgetting, perhaps like the 'projection', that not the whole country went to the polls and the turnout is a lot lower for council elections, bearing that in mind another projections say they will be a majority government. im forgetting nothing.
what do you mean whole country? The uk isnt a country its a multi national state. England had local elections , and from what i see , by labeliing them local elections isntead of english locals , it was the english media that had great difficulty with the concept england isnt the whole uk.
Sure. starmer is still widely regarded to have done poorly under the circumstances doing worse than ed milliband did in terms of vote share in 2014. last year , we had the local scottish elections , and starmer and sarwar had one of the worst labour party local election results in scottish political history. we dont want to hear any more puerile excuses for starmers poor showing.
we will see.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 15:12:05 GMT
Whatever way you want to spin what has happened the police and by association the Tories have directly interfered in a peaceful protest and reduced its effectiveness, that is Fascism.
The police Shepparded a large crowd of protesters and erected a barrier to stop them being seen.
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Post by thomas on May 7, 2023 15:18:31 GMT
Whatever way you want to spin what has happened the police and by association the Tories have directly interfered in a peaceful protest and reduced its effectiveness, that is Fascism. The police Shepparded a large crowd of protesters and erected a barrier to stop them being seen. labour are part of the problem not the solution to the problem.
despite the dreadfullness of this anti protest bill , and the actions of the polis in your capital city agaisnt protestors , if all labour can offer is a hung parliament then it shows beyond doubt how bad starmer and new labour are , and how out of touch the two party system is with the majority of the public across the uk.
The esteemed John Curtice disagrees.
āVoters are not yet fully enthused by the Labour alternative.ā
As indeed a pitiful 0.1% increase in vote share demonstrates
Hard 2 imagine more fertile ground 4 the alleged āoppositionā yet a projected hung parliament is all u can manage
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Post by thomas on May 7, 2023 15:23:44 GMT
Whatever way you want to spin what has happened the police and by association the Tories have directly interfered in a peaceful protest and reduced its effectiveness, that is Fascism. The police Shepparded a large crowd of protesters and erected a barrier to stop them being seen. despite starmer doing his ususal and telling labour to abstain on the anti protest bill in the lords , and backtracking on tuition fees in englandshire , is it true wes streeting labours health and social care spokesperson , accepts donations from private health firms red?
We can see why starmer and his red tories wont reverse english health privatisation , and why scotland mustnt allow these clowns into government.
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Post by Montegriffo on May 7, 2023 15:30:02 GMT
Posters are dealing with Froth and Spin here - NOT the real issue Why were protesters, who had done absolutelly nothing wrong, arrested and put behind bars until after the coronation was over with. ? This is the troubling question at hand To prevent a breach of the peace. |
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Post by patman post on May 7, 2023 15:32:07 GMT
I read in the press that demonstrators were going to use rape alarms to spook the Royal Horses, so who in their right minds would hand them out prior to the parade? When you think about it, what's rape prevention got to do with a royal coronation? They could hand those out on any day. Why that day? Rat, smelt, much? I have heard that they took rape alarms off women.š Not a helpful observation, given that it was only recently being reported that girls and young women were being advised not to approach a lone police officer if they felt nervous or threatened... |
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Post by Pacifico on May 7, 2023 16:56:56 GMT
I read in the press that demonstrators were going to use rape alarms to spook the Royal Horses, so who in their right minds would hand them out prior to the parade? When you think about it, what's rape prevention got to do with a royal coronation? They could hand those out on any day. Why that day? Rat, smelt, much? If the police had not done anything and allowed this protest and a horse got spooked and injured some spectators, all the same people complaining now would be asking whey the police had not done anything to stop it. |
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Post by see2 on May 7, 2023 16:59:00 GMT
Yes they have a right to stand "on the sidelines" but they had no reason to other than to expose their nonsense placards. It was IMO just a case of another minority who want to control things, to do things their way. I believe there is a time and a place for most things, but the Coronation of the King is not the time for republicans, anarchists and malcontents to demonstrate against this UK tradition. If for no other reason, they had no chance of changing anything all they did was to expose their ignorance. IMO they appear to be the types who would, perhaps unintentionally, partially at least, open the door of opportunity for referendums and extremism to take control. No other reason? We've had plenty of traditions,there was denying women the vote and of course capital punishment. Thereās many things we used to do that arenāt acceptable now and that all took place because of what you call malcontents exposing their ignorance who couldnāt change anything. You might call their beliefs nonsense but for me Iām quite happy to see any protest peacefully,just stop oil and others,I might or might not agree with them but sure as hell defend their right to do so within the law. I now understand your defence of that grinning **** Blair,he who would have had his way with ID cards he is now advocating we have a digital ID imposed on us all for our own good and protection of course nothing to worry about as we track and control you from cradle to grave,what could possibly go wrong? And you cite opening the door to referenda as a problem you mean like the decision to leave the eu,canāt have the plebs exercising their freedoms can we? laughably you also cite extremism what do you think theyād do with those powers exercised yesterday and digital ID? You do know that amongst those arrested were nightstar volunteers which is run by Westminster City council news.sky.com/story/police-arrested-volunteers-handing-out-rape-alarms-over-coronation-disruption-concerns-12875150If we have laws they really do need to be operated without fear or favour,clearly that wasnāt what happened was it. Why start with such clearly unacceptable rules and laws in the past that have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with the Coronation? As for your "WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG" I SUUGEST that as long as control at the top is divided in such a way as to protect the country from the real extremists, maybe the sort of people you would like to see in office, then the country is in reasonably safe hands. Just curious, are you against the Royal Family in its present position? |
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Post by Montegriffo on May 7, 2023 17:02:30 GMT
I read in the press that demonstrators were going to use rape alarms to spook the Royal Horses, so who in their right minds would hand them out prior to the parade? When you think about it, what's rape prevention got to do with a royal coronation? They could hand those out on any day. Why that day? Rat, smelt, much? If the police had not done anything and allowed this protest and a horse got spooked and injured some spectators, all the same people complaining now would be asking whey the police had not done anything to stop it. Same if there had been a brawl between protesters and disgruntled royalists, spoiling Charlies special day. |
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Post by thomas on May 7, 2023 17:04:40 GMT
No other reason? We've had plenty of traditions,there was denying women the vote and of course capital punishment. Thereās many things we used to do that arenāt acceptable now and that all took place because of what you call malcontents exposing their ignorance who couldnāt change anything. You might call their beliefs nonsense but for me Iām quite happy to see any protest peacefully,just stop oil and others,I might or might not agree with them but sure as hell defend their right to do so within the law. I now understand your defence of that grinning **** Blair,he who would have had his way with ID cards he is now advocating we have a digital ID imposed on us all for our own good and protection of course nothing to worry about as we track and control you from cradle to grave,what could possibly go wrong? And you cite opening the door to referenda as a problem you mean like the decision to leave the eu,canāt have the plebs exercising their freedoms can we? laughably you also cite extremism what do you think theyād do with those powers exercised yesterday and digital ID? You do know that amongst those arrested were nightstar volunteers which is run by Westminster City council news.sky.com/story/police-arrested-volunteers-handing-out-rape-alarms-over-coronation-disruption-concerns-12875150If we have laws they really do need to be operated without fear or favour,clearly that wasnāt what happened was it. Why start with such clearly unacceptable rules and laws in the past that have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with the Coronation? As for your "WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG" I SUUGEST that as long as control at the top is divided in such a way as to protect the country from the real extremists, maybe the sort of people you would like to see in office, then the country is in reasonably safe hands. Just curious, are you against the Royal Family in its present position? just for clarity , lets look at what labours david lammy was saying on the anti protest laws....
Someone commented that starmers new labour make ted heath look like a socialist.
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Post by see2 on May 7, 2023 17:05:16 GMT
"starmers new tuition fee" What new tuition fee is that? Or are you referring to the continuation of the status quo? What status quo? Scotland has no tuition fees , england does , and starmer wants scotland to have tuition fees . I tell you see 2 , its fun debating with new labour supporters.
back on topic , ......
Starmer wants Scotland to have tuition fees?? That's news to me, can you confirm that claim? I'm more than willing to learn. |
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Post by see2 on May 7, 2023 17:12:01 GMT
Why start with such clearly unacceptable rules and laws in the past that have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with the Coronation? As for your "WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG" I SUUGEST that as long as control at the top is divided in such a way as to protect the country from the real extremists, maybe the sort of people you would like to see in office, then the country is in reasonably safe hands. Just curious, are you against the Royal Family in its present position? just for clarity , lets look at what labours david lammy was saying on the anti protest laws....
Someone commented that starmers new labour make ted heath look like a socialist.
I note the deviations. |
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