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Post by sandypine on Apr 16, 2023 16:58:27 GMT
Many camps have unpleasant people in them, what we do is evaluate the facts and not who provides the facts. There is no camp that denies the truth, there are camps who wish the truth to be hidden and that is generally now perceived to be the left and the Islamic community. If there is no problem then detailed information will show there is no problem, why would people not wish that to happen? You can add the Catholic Church to that list Absolutely right, however what you have to remember is almost wholly Catholics are abusing Catholics white gangs are abusing white children. It seems as though Muslim gangs are not abusing Muslim children but the children of all other groups they can get their hands. It is a very significant difference that usually would have the left apoplectic with rage. |
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 16, 2023 18:20:42 GMT
You can add the Catholic Church to that list Absolutely right, however what you have to remember is almost wholly Catholics are abusing Catholics white gangs are abusing white children. It seems as though Muslim gangs are not abusing Muslim children but the children of all other groups they can get their hands. It is a very significant difference that usually would have the left apoplectic with rage. To be fair I dont think kids identify as much anything but kids . They are victims whoever is doing the abusing |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 16, 2023 18:39:08 GMT
Absolutely right, however what you have to remember is almost wholly Catholics are abusing Catholics white gangs are abusing white children. It seems as though Muslim gangs are not abusing Muslim children but the children of all other groups they can get their hands. It is a very significant difference that usually would have the left apoplectic with rage. To be fair I dont think kids identify as much anything but kids . They are victims whoever is doing the abusing That point I would not argue but we are looking in the first instance at the perpetrators if we count children as a generic blank screen which in the main is far from the case. What the children identify as is immaterial it is what the perpetrators identify the children as that is important. If they identify the children as lesser beings because of their ethno religious group then that raises the question would they be child abusers if other groups were not available. That seems to be doubtful. There is an appearance of racially selecting victims who can be abused becasue of their ethnic religious group. That should have the left champing at the bit to get it sorted but they behave otherwise. We know that victims of any crime, if they are a different ethnicity than the perpetrator, always raises the aggravating circumstances issue. Once again in this case the left just want it to go away. |
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Post by Steve on Apr 16, 2023 19:48:16 GMT
No one is trying to stop a proper investigation, the concern is 2nd rate politicians and public figures risking horrendous prejudicial acts against innocent people and maybe even lynch mobs by their self serving gutter level tactics trying to get power they in no way deserve. Prejudicial acts against innocent people are commonplace in the name of expose. The BNP member's list which resulted in several beatings and many careers stopped. It is often noticed that exposing 'innocent' people depends very much on who is being exposed and who is doing the exposing. As far as I can see what is being sought is definitive information as regards what is going on, unless of course you are saying there is no problem within a certain community and it is all a load of hogwash. That's the same non logic that says 'my mate got run over by a car so that means I can run over anyone I like in my car'  Or in simple parlance: one wrong doesn't make another wrong right |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 16, 2023 22:22:12 GMT
Prejudicial acts against innocent people are commonplace in the name of expose. The BNP member's list which resulted in several beatings and many careers stopped. It is often noticed that exposing 'innocent' people depends very much on who is being exposed and who is doing the exposing. As far as I can see what is being sought is definitive information as regards what is going on, unless of course you are saying there is no problem within a certain community and it is all a load of hogwash. That's the same non logic that says 'my mate got run over by a car so that means I can run over anyone I like in my car' Or in simple parlance: one wrong doesn't make another wrong right It is not what is right or wrong it is who complains about things being right or wrong and how they limit the scope of their ire. The complaints about Braverman risking life and limb is made by the same people who were more than happy to see life and limb put at extreme risk against those to whom they wished ill. I have not said either is right or wrong but I am saying there is hypocrisy in them thar hills and that is what grates the most. The moral code is very selective as regards to whom it applies. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2023 0:08:08 GMT
That's the same non logic that says 'my mate got run over by a car so that means I can run over anyone I like in my car' Or in simple parlance: one wrong doesn't make another wrong right It is not what is right or wrong it is who complains about things being right or wrong and how they limit the scope of their ire. The complaints about Braverman risking life and limb is made by the same people who were more than happy to see life and limb put at extreme risk against those to whom they wished ill. I have not said either is right or wrong but I am saying there is hypocrisy in them thar hills and that is what grates the most. The moral code is very selective as regards to whom it applies. In a nut shell, but at the end of the day those like Steve are fully aware of this. They just don't give a fuck. |
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 17, 2023 5:29:12 GMT
To be fair I dont think kids identify as much anything but kids . They are victims whoever is doing the abusing That point I would not argue but we are looking in the first instance at the perpetrators if we count children as a generic blank screen which in the main is far from the case. What the children identify as is immaterial it is what the perpetrators identify the children as that is important. If they identify the children as lesser beings because of their ethno religious group then that raises the question would they be child abusers if other groups were not available. That seems to be doubtful. There is an appearance of racially selecting victims who can be abused becasue of their ethnic religious group. That should have the left champing at the bit to get it sorted but they behave otherwise. We know that victims of any crime, if they are a different ethnicity than the perpetrator, always raises the aggravating circumstances issue. Once again in this case the left just want it to go away. It is actually staring us in the face with child brides in Muslim societies .The head Honcho himself married a 6 year old |
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 17, 2023 6:24:13 GMT
Many camps have unpleasant people in them, what we do is evaluate the facts and not who provides the facts. There is no camp that denies the truth, there are camps who wish the truth to be hidden and that is generally now perceived to be the left and the Islamic community. If there is no problem then detailed information will show there is no problem, why would people not wish that to happen? You can add the Catholic Church to that list The difference is that the Catholic Church does NOT condone child abuse. Those priests who carry out this abuse know perfectly well it's wrong. That's why Catholics in general are not over-represented in this crime. The problem with Islam is that the Koran DOES condone abusing non-muslim women and also sex with children. That's why muslims ARE massively over-represented in this crime. It's the classic culture clash. The muslim culture is fundamentally alien to Western values and we knew that when Blair opened to doors to muslim immigration with the deliberate intention of "rubbing the noses of the Right in diversity". Blair sowed the seeds of the destruction of the English way of life. By 2050 England will be a muslim majority country (at the current rate). |
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Post by Steve on Apr 17, 2023 10:36:20 GMT
That's the same non logic that says 'my mate got run over by a car so that means I can run over anyone I like in my car' Or in simple parlance: one wrong doesn't make another wrong right It is not what is right or wrong it is who complains about things being right or wrong and how they limit the scope of their ire. The complaints about Braverman risking life and limb is made by the same people who were more than happy to see life and limb put at extreme risk against those to whom they wished ill. I have not said either is right or wrong but I am saying there is hypocrisy in them thar hills and that is what grates the most. The moral code is very selective as regards to whom it applies. Pure conjecture. A made up unevidenced story to suit your agenda. What evidence do you have other than your own bile? |
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Post by Steve on Apr 17, 2023 10:37:23 GMT
In a nut shell, but at the end of the day those like Steve are fully aware of this. They just don't give a fuck. And my personal stalker strikes again with yet another load of BS |
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Post by borchester on Apr 17, 2023 11:50:28 GMT
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"Baroness" Warsi has accused Suella Braverman of racism for pointing out that most of the grooming gangs are Pakistanis. Baroness Warsi was raised to the peerage 16 years ago.
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 17, 2023 12:36:03 GMT
To use the title of one of her pro-muslim books, she's the "enemy within". This nation should not be giving her any honours at all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2023 13:08:13 GMT
In a nut shell, but at the end of the day those like Steve are fully aware of this. They just don't give a fuck. And my personal stalker strikes again with yet another load of BS I was responding the Sandypine, not some odious nutcase. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 17, 2023 14:22:33 GMT
It is not what is right or wrong it is who complains about things being right or wrong and how they limit the scope of their ire. The complaints about Braverman risking life and limb is made by the same people who were more than happy to see life and limb put at extreme risk against those to whom they wished ill. I have not said either is right or wrong but I am saying there is hypocrisy in them thar hills and that is what grates the most. The moral code is very selective as regards to whom it applies. Pure conjecture. A made up unevidenced story to suit your agenda. What evidence do you have other than your own bile? It is easy enough to find the Guardian's view on what Braverman said whn they called her comments the racism card that the Tories love to play and the Guardian published the BNP members list giving area by area details with names. Did they wonder what would happen to those individuals, did they care, did they think they deserved it. As I said hypocrisy in them thar hills. |
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Post by Steve on Apr 17, 2023 18:48:51 GMT
And my personal stalker strikes again with yet another load of BS I was responding the Sandypine, not some odious nutcase.  ^ You quote a response to me, make a nasty comment about a 'Steve' and then pretend you weren't trolling me. FFS get a grip |
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