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Post by sandypine on Apr 14, 2023 17:34:38 GMT
No This thread is about the character of Suealla Braverman so her apparent double standards is clearly germane. The thread is about Warsi calling Braverman racist. The way to clearly lay this issue to rest is to investigate thoroughly with detailed analysis of perpetrators balanced up against similar crimes by other groups. So far there has been near on twenty years dodging the issue and calling people racist who wished to investigate or to counter. The victims seem to have the perception, based on sound evidence, they are abused in part because they are not Muslim. Why do we have to go down the road of destroying all those who raise the issue and concentrate on nuance and double standards which abound in parliament anyway on all sides. Let's put it to bed, or find out, once and for all.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 17:52:20 GMT
No This thread is about the character of Suealla Braverman so her apparent double standards is clearly germane. This thread is not about Braverman's character. See OP.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2023 17:58:56 GMT
No This thread is about the character of Suealla Braverman so her apparent double standards is clearly germane. This thread is not about Braverman's character. See OP. True, before Steve attempted, out of the blue (sinister reasons, no doubt), to turn it into a Buddhist bashing thread. Apologies for any intrusion on my part, it just felt just at the time, like fighting evil.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 14, 2023 18:01:17 GMT
No This thread is about the character of Suealla Braverman so her apparent double standards is clearly germane. This thread is not about Braverman's character. See OP. It is if Steves says it is.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 18:15:34 GMT
This thread is not about Braverman's character. See OP. True, before Steve attempted, out of the blue (sinister reasons, no doubt), to turn it into a Buddhist bashing thread. Apologies for any intrusion on my part, it just felt just at the time, like fighting evil.
I assure you, apologies are unnecessary.
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 18:32:04 GMT
That's your view not mine No it’s yours . If you belong to a religion that has a history of sexual misconduct then you can’t say what she did . You do know the founder of Islam had sex with children dont you? Do read before you post tripe Big difference in belonging to a many stranded religion that has seen some of its figure sexually abuse and a niche one where its founder and ethos setter was a sexual abuser.
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 18:34:01 GMT
No This thread is about the character of Suealla Braverman so her apparent double standards is clearly germane. This thread is not about Braverman's character. See OP. You read it yourself. It starts '"Baroness" Warsi has accused Suella Braverman of racism . . .' If somehow you don't think that's about Braverman's character you need remedial reading lessons
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 18:37:05 GMT
This thread is not about Braverman's character. See OP. True, before Steve attempted, out of the blue (sinister reasons, no doubt), to turn it into a Buddhist bashing thread. Apologies for any intrusion on my part, it just felt just at the time, like fighting evil.
You shabby liar It was YOU that brought Buddhism into the thread ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/83761/thread
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 18:38:54 GMT
This thread is not about Braverman's character. See OP. You read it yourself. It starts '"Baroness" Warsi has accused Suella Braverman of racism . . .' If somehow you don't think that's about Braverman's character you need remedial reading lessons For Christs sake, that is patently not about Braverman's character. Her character is not in question.
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 18:40:21 GMT
You read it yourself. It starts '"Baroness" Warsi has accused Suella Braverman of racism . . .' If somehow you don't think that's about Braverman's character you need remedial reading lessons For Christs sake, that is patently not about Braverman's character. Her character is not in question. So you don't think being racist or not in any way reflects on someone's character? FFS get those lessons Red
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 18:40:45 GMT
True, before Steve attempted, out of the blue (sinister reasons, no doubt), to turn it into a Buddhist bashing thread. Apologies for any intrusion on my part, it just felt just at the time, like fighting evil.
You shabby liar It was YOU that brought Buddhism into the thread ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/83761/threadSteve, I think you may be losing the plot. It was you who brought Buddhism into the discussion.
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 18:51:21 GMT
Steve, I think you may be losing the plot. It was you who brought Buddhism into the discussion. I brought a niche Buddhist sect into it. It was B4 that brought worldwide Buddhism in and I made a point about not condemning all Buddhism
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 18:52:39 GMT
For Christs sake, that is patently not about Braverman's character. Her character is not in question. So you don't think being racist or not in any way reflects on someone's character? FFS get those lessons Red Steve, you're digging yourself into a hole. Years ago, 2012 actually, Baroness Warsi called on mosques to get a grip of Pakistani men who see white women as third class citizens. She now says Braverman is a racist for mentioning Pakistani grooming gangs. I think she needs to decide which side of the fence she's on.
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 18:57:39 GMT
So you don't think being racist or not in any way reflects on someone's character? FFS get those lessons Red Steve, you're digging yourself into a hole. Years ago, 2012 actually, Baroness Warsi called on mosques to get a grip of Pakistani men who see white women as third class citizens. She now says Braverman is a racist for mentioning Pakistani grooming gangs. I think she needs to decide which side of the fence she's on. Warsi is right and was right. You're still in denial about what Braverman actually said recently
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 19:07:47 GMT
Warsi is right and was right. You're still in denial about what Braverman actually said recently Remind me what Braverman said. Then I'll remind you what Warsi said about predatory Pakistani men back in 2012.
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