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Post by sandypine on Apr 14, 2023 19:08:46 GMT
Steve, you're digging yourself into a hole. Years ago, 2012 actually, Baroness Warsi called on mosques to get a grip of Pakistani men who see white women as third class citizens. She now says Braverman is a racist for mentioning Pakistani grooming gangs. I think she needs to decide which side of the fence she's on. Warsi is right and was right. You're still in denial about what Braverman actually said recently You are still saying she said something she did not. It is the usual bag of bollocks that anything is better than investigating and accusing those who raise the issue of racism fits that bill every time. The message is there may be a problem within a certain community that impinges negatively on other communities. What is the problem with finding out as opposed to all round the houses accusations that are at best subjective opinions and at worst a misunderstanding of what was said. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 19:09:44 GMT
Steve, I think you may be losing the plot. It was you who brought Buddhism into the discussion. I brought a niche Buddhist sect into it. It was B4 that brought worldwide Buddhism in and I made a point about not condemning all Buddhism Ahh right. That's OK then. |
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 19:15:14 GMT
Warsi is right and was right. You're still in denial about what Braverman actually said recently Remind me what Braverman said. Then I'll remind you what Warsi said about predatory Pakistani men back in 2012. I suggest you watch the whole 90 seconds passage from 4.20 in the interview. Absolutely no doubt the words she used blamed the whole problem on 'British Pakistanis' www.youtube.com/watch?v=us4wWNUhdgs |
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 19:19:32 GMT
And This is what Warsi said in 2012 'There is a small minority of Pakistani men who believe that white girls are fair game.
'And we have to be prepared to say that. You can only start solving a problem if you acknowledge it first.
'This small minority who see women as second class citizens, and white women probably as third class citizens, are to be spoken out against.'No allusion to it only being ethnic Pakistanis |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 19:21:02 GMT
Oh ffs get a grip. You expect me to sit through nearly 1½ hours of that, to prove you right? Steve if there was anything there you would have it up in neon.
You have nothing.
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 19:23:13 GMT
Oh ffs get a grip. You expect me to sit through nearly 1½ hours of that, to prove you right? Steve if there was anything there you would have it up in neon. You have nothing. So the phrase '90 seconds from 4.20' just bounced off that skull of yours didn't it. Beyond hope you are |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 19:24:05 GMT
And this is what Warsi said in 2012' 'There is a small minority of Pakistani men who believe that white girls are fair game.
'And we have to be prepared to say that. You can only start solving a problem if you acknowledge it first.
'This small minority who see women as second class citizens, and white women probably as third class citizens, are to be spoken out against.'No allusion to it only being ethnic Pakistanis Steve, she said a lot more than that, which is perhaps why you didn't provide a link. |
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 19:26:10 GMT
And this is what Warsi said in 2012' 'There is a small minority of Pakistani men who believe that white girls are fair game.
'And we have to be prepared to say that. You can only start solving a problem if you acknowledge it first.
'This small minority who see women as second class citizens, and white women probably as third class citizens, are to be spoken out against.'No allusion to it only being ethnic Pakistanis Steve, she said a lot more than that, which is perhaps why you didn't provide a link. As I said 'beyond hope' There very much is a link in my post |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 19:31:03 GMT
Oh ffs get a grip. You expect me to sit through nearly 1½ hours of that, to prove you right? Steve if there was anything there you would have it up in neon. You have nothing. So the phrase '90 seconds from 4.20' just bounced off that skull of yours didn't it. Beyond hope you are She said 'White English girls were being pursued, raped, drugged, and harmed by gangs of British Pakistani men'. Which is correct. Steve, I quoted what Braverman said on page 1 in this thread. Please pay attention. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 19:34:41 GMT
Steve, she said a lot more than that, which is perhaps why you didn't provide a link. As I said 'beyond hope' There very much is a link in my post A link to what you claim Warsi said, if you please... |
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 19:34:43 GMT
If you didn't have such a thick skull you'd see I replied to your highly selective quote
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 19:36:30 GMT
As I said 'beyond hope' There very much is a link in my post A link to what you claim Warsi said, if you please... In the post I made. Get someone to show you how to click on 'this is what Warsi said in 2012' You'd have thought the blue would have shown you it was a link but then you thought 90 seconds was one and a half hours didn't you |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 14, 2023 19:38:38 GMT
Oh ffs get a grip. You expect me to sit through nearly 1½ hours of that, to prove you right? Steve if there was anything there you would have it up in neon. You have nothing. So the phrase '90 seconds from 4.20' just bounced off that skull of yours didn't it. Beyond hope you are You have repeated that several times and it does not say what you say it does. |
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Post by Steve on Apr 14, 2023 19:39:40 GMT
Well loads of people say it does
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 14, 2023 19:41:00 GMT
If you didn't have such a thick skull you'd see I replied to your highly selective quote Being abusive and intentionally evasive may suggest, to the casual observer, you're on the run. That you have nothing. I will ask once more for you to provide the link you quoted Warsi from. |
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