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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 6:45:54 GMT
Not particularly a dig at you but a question to all those who cite brexit or that we are a rogue nation for wishing to stop this illegal influx which not just for us is also a pan European problem which is only going to worsen can you set out in detail how you would solve this problem? The only way you will solve it is offshore processing. It would cost a fortune to by all the asylum seekers scuba suits.🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 6:46:34 GMT
I don’t think this is anything to do with Brexit at all. The only side effect of Brexit here is the withdrawal from the Dublin Convention, but as we hardly used it, I think that's by the by. There is a mass world migration going on. It's not just a pan European problem, it's a world problem. There are countries being hit more than ours, France being one, which was the point I was trying to make. You can't do anything on your own. Any action has to be multilateral. You can't stop the boats to the UK if there are boats to mainland Europe. And even if we did they'd find another way, like when we cracked down on the lorries and the Chunnel. We have to have proper safe routes of some description, and we need to have an asylum system fit for purpose. That means quick processing so that those who are granted refugee status become paying members of society and those that aren't can be quickly deported. And finally I'd have asylum seekers able to work, so that they can fund themselves rather than relying on taxpayer handouts. I can't see a single reason why that can't be done. Safe routes would increase the numbers and allowing them to work would make the UK an even more attractive destination. And richer. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 13, 2023 6:50:56 GMT
The UK are the victims dead nag. How? Ask your hero Blair dead nag. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2023 6:53:32 GMT
So all those patient explanations we've made before still don't get through your skull and you keep on with your mis-imagined alternate reality. And of course the pathetic denial that your Brexit stopped the repatriation of these boat people to France Own your own shit JonksyShouldn't you so the same...You are nothing but a manipulative arsehole when it comes to debate. None of the fucking remnants have given an explanation as there isn't one and they just doggedly and bindly support their beloved EUSSR. The Frogs are taking the piss and you aint got the balls to admit to the fact.
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Micron migrant deal ‘limit’ exposed as Frog warship sends illegal immigrants to British coast.
A major limitation of the UK-Frog migrant deal has been exposed, according to GB News’ Deputy Political Editor.
It comes after a Frog warship ordered a passenger ferry to move aside so it could take 90 migrants to the UK, according to a report.
The Spirit of Britain ferry was forced to move aside so the Frog vessel could hand over a group of migrants to a Royal Navy boat.
The "exposure" being that the 'deal' is a land based deal, not a sea based deal. "Speaking to Andrew Pierce and Dawn Neesom, he said: “This really exposes the limits of the deal that have been reached with France, as they are really land-based deals rather than water-based deals, if you want to put it in those crude terms.
“The number of patrols across beaches has massively increased. We now have joint patrols, part funded by France, part funded by the United Kingdom. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 7:34:01 GMT
Ask your hero Blair dead nag. Blair was not my hero, I did not even support him as I have said man, many times if you had bothered to look, but that's you all over, talk before engaging you brain. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 13, 2023 7:37:14 GMT
Ask your hero Blair dead nag. Blair was not my hero, I did not even support him as I have said man, many times if you had bothered to look, but that's you all over, talk before engaging you brain. So why are you not blaming him for this influx of unwanted dross dead nag? |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 13, 2023 7:38:02 GMT
The only way you will solve it is offshore processing. It would cost a fortune to by all the asylum seekers scuba suits.🤣 nope |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 13, 2023 7:38:22 GMT
Safe routes would increase the numbers and allowing them to work would make the UK an even more attractive destination. And richer. ..and nope.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 7:43:03 GMT
Blair was not my hero, I did not even support him as I have said man, many times if you had bothered to look, but that's you all over, talk before engaging you brain. So why are you not blaming him for this influx of unwanted dross dead nag? This 'influx' as you put it is down to the Tories, they have been in power for 13 years and done nothing. The government’s latest figures show that in December 2022 the number of people waiting to have their asylum cases resolved was nearly nine times higher than it was in June 2010 (after the general election in May when Labour left government), while the number of people awaiting an initial decision is 17 times higher. There were 166,261 people with asylum applications waiting to be resolved in December, including 160,919 awaiting an initial decision. This compares to a total of 18,954 people in June 2010, including 9,441 people awaiting an initial decision. The Tories are responsible. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 13, 2023 7:45:49 GMT
So why are you not blaming him for this influx of unwanted dross dead nag? This 'influx' as you put it is down to the Tories, they have been in power for 13 years and done nothing. The government’s latest figures show that in December 2022 the number of people waiting to have their asylum cases resolved was nearly nine times higher than it was in June 2010 (after the general election in May when Labour left government), while the number of people awaiting an initial decision is 17 times higher. There were 166,261 people with asylum applications waiting to be resolved in December, including 160,919 awaiting an initial decision. This compares to a total of 18,954 people in June 2010, including 9,441 people awaiting an initial decision. The Tories are responsible. Total bollocks it was blairs labour that opened the flood gates. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 13, 2023 8:50:22 GMT
Huh. They are progressing through France without permission, they are progressing through the EU without permission to do so. The French do not stop them because they know they are on the way to the UK and if they stop them and try to deport them they will claim asylum in France. The EU are visiting their lack of border controls upon the UK and facilitating an invasion force free passage through their territory which hardly gels with the EU mission to be a good neighbour. The Germans asked for free passage through Belgium in 1914 to invade France, the Belgians told them to take a hike and lost a lot of their men killed or wounded. That is being a good neighbour. Asylum seekers fleeing from oppressive states and in fear of their lives are 'allowed' to cross borders to reach countries that they wish to seek asylum in. Not all of the asylum seekers entering France are coming to the UK, some stop in France and seek asylum there. WE have been here before. They are not 'allowed' to, it was agreed that no sanction should be applied if it was discovered that that was what had happened. You are confusing an act of leniency with a right. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 13, 2023 9:04:24 GMT
I suppose the usuals will blame Brexit for the ferry's delay.
French warship orders cross-Channel ferry to change course so it can escort small boats containing 90 migrants and hand them over to Britain Warship's officer told ferry to make a detour so it could hand over 90 migrants Controversial manoeuvre delaying ferry's journey happened in fog at 10.27am
A cross-channel ferry was forced to change route by a French warship on Easter Sunday so it could escort two migrant boats to the UK, the Daily Mail can reveal.
The P&O ferry Spirit of Britain was told to make the detour so the naval vessel could hand over 90 migrants to the Border Force craft Typhoon waiting to bring them to Dover.
The controversial manoeuvre, delaying the ferry's journey, happened in thick fog at 10.27am.
In the message to the P&O ferry, the warship's female officer says in stilting English: 'I am currently ahead of you for three nautical miles. About to start operation with two small migrant craft and Border Force Typhoon. Is it possible for you to take a wide berth on your port side?'
The Spirit of Britain's officer responds by correcting her estimated distance between the vessels saying it is five nautical miles. He adds: 'Unfortunately, due to the shipping traffic we can't come to port in restricted visibility. So, we will alter course to starboard.'
The French should have escorted those illegal immigrants. ALL THE WAY BACK TO NORTHERN FRANCE and then with a Police escort, marched them all the way back to the Southern French border.. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 13, 2023 9:04:57 GMT
The Frogs should have taken them back to their country and not ours. We pay those frog arseholes to keep this shit out of our country and all they do is push more of them on to us. Why should the French take them back to France? These people have a right to go where they want if claiming asylum. People smugglers and illegal economic migrants are not refugees. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 9:47:45 GMT
This 'influx' as you put it is down to the Tories, they have been in power for 13 years and done nothing. The government’s latest figures show that in December 2022 the number of people waiting to have their asylum cases resolved was nearly nine times higher than it was in June 2010 (after the general election in May when Labour left government), while the number of people awaiting an initial decision is 17 times higher. There were 166,261 people with asylum applications waiting to be resolved in December, including 160,919 awaiting an initial decision. This compares to a total of 18,954 people in June 2010, including 9,441 people awaiting an initial decision. The Tories are responsible. Total bollocks it was blairs labour that opened the flood gates. You may need to brush up on your knowledge base here. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 9:48:28 GMT
Asylum seekers fleeing from oppressive states and in fear of their lives are 'allowed' to cross borders to reach countries that they wish to seek asylum in. Not all of the asylum seekers entering France are coming to the UK, some stop in France and seek asylum there. WE have been here before. They are not 'allowed' to, it was agreed that no sanction should be applied if it was discovered that that was what had happened. You are confusing an act of leniency with a right. Splitting hairs, again.😔 |
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