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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2023 6:57:23 GMT
This is beyond unbelievable.
It's alright when the Tories attack Labour, "they want to let them all in", "Starmer failed to prosecute Savile", "they are on the side of criminals'"...... but when Labour use the same tactics they become hysterical and accuse Labour of stooping into the gutter. The Tories live, exist and operate in the gutter, if you need to fight them get in the gutter. 🤣
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Post by sheepy on Apr 9, 2023 7:00:56 GMT
This is beyond unbelievable. It's alright when the Tories attack Labour, "they want to let them all in", "Starmer failed to prosecute Savile", "they are on the side of criminals'"...... but when Labour use the same tactics they become hysterical and accuse Labour of stooping into the gutter. The Tories live, exist and operate in the gutter, if you need to fight them get in the gutter. 🤣 Well that says it all the Westminster party are all in the gutter and Reds answer is get in the gutter with them. I think not.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 9, 2023 7:20:00 GMT
This is beyond unbelievable. It's alright when the Tories attack Labour, "they want to let them all in", "Starmer failed to prosecute Savile", "they are on the side of criminals'"...... but when Labour use the same tactics they become hysterical and accuse Labour of stooping into the gutter. The Tories live, exist and operate in the gutter, if you need to fight them get in the gutter. 🤣 Many of the kiddie fiddler gangs were in a labour controled council areas. It shows how far starmers has sunk to see even abacus stating it was despicable. Starmer is one of the reasons that our laws have gone soft in the UK.
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Post by see2 on Apr 9, 2023 9:05:35 GMT
Ha ha ha, its actually good for a laugh to a few comedians posting jokes ^^^ Well you are always good for a laugh. Sarcasm, that's just about your level LOL
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Post by see2 on Apr 9, 2023 9:12:49 GMT
Anyone who has their strong political beliefs that are so strong that they knew them to be right, and that they were the right things to do. So they attacked their previous friends and referred to them as "scumbags", or "descending into the gutter. the gutter" joins a well recognised group of people who had total belief that their fixed political convictions were correct, yet were destroyed them. List: Pinochet, Galtieri, Franco, Mussolini, Hitler, Trump, and hopefully Putin will follow. Thatcher got away with it but history shows she should not have. This is just more mumbo-jumbo from you. The message is clear enough, It seems you are a bit dense when it comes to comprehension.
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Post by see2 on Apr 9, 2023 9:19:55 GMT
This is beyond unbelievable. It's alright when the Tories attack Labour, "they want to let them all in", "Starmer failed to prosecute Savile", "they are on the side of criminals'"...... but when Labour use the same tactics they become hysterical and accuse Labour of stooping into the gutter. The Tories live, exist and operate in the gutter, if you need to fight them get in the gutter. 🤣 Many of the kiddie fiddler gangs were in a labour controled council areas. It shows how far starmers has sunk to see even abacus stating it was despicable. Starmer is one of the reasons that our laws have gone soft in the UK. The mail, aided and abetted by the likes of yourself and your ilk have done far greater damage to the whole of the UK. Exposed by 47 years of overrated Tories dominating parliament since 1951. Tory knob-heads are so full of their own crap they can't see the wood for trees.
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Post by see2 on Apr 9, 2023 9:31:18 GMT
This is beyond unbelievable. It's alright when the Tories attack Labour, "they want to let them all in", "Starmer failed to prosecute Savile", "they are on the side of criminals'"...... but when Labour use the same tactics they become hysterical and accuse Labour of stooping into the gutter. The Tories live, exist and operate in the gutter, if you need to fight them get in the gutter. 🤣 There's nothing wrong with fighting fire with fire, even when that fire is in the gutter. The problem is the Tory propaganda machine is so highly polished and well established in the area of throwing insults, insinuations and denigration, so much so that its followers believe whatever is put their way. So they are shocked, surprised and disturbed when they get a taste of their own medicine.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 9, 2023 10:00:57 GMT
This is beyond unbelievable. It's alright when the Tories attack Labour, "they want to let them all in", "Starmer failed to prosecute Savile", "they are on the side of criminals'"...... but when Labour use the same tactics they become hysterical and accuse Labour of stooping into the gutter. The Tories live, exist and operate in the gutter, if you need to fight them get in the gutter. 🤣 Many of the kiddie fiddler gangs were in a labour controled council areas. It shows how far starmers has sunk to see even abacus stating it was despicable. Starmer is one of the reasons that our laws have gone soft in the UK. Starmer has not made any laws in the UK. 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2023 11:09:28 GMT
Well you are always good for a laugh. Sarcasm, that's just about your level LOL Hypocrisy seems to be yours, lol
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Post by jonksy on Apr 9, 2023 13:08:58 GMT
Many of the kiddie fiddler gangs were in a labour controled council areas. It shows how far starmers has sunk to see even abacus stating it was despicable. Starmer is one of the reasons that our laws have gone soft in the UK. Starmer has not made any laws in the UK. 🙄 But he has broken many of them.
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 9, 2023 16:01:32 GMT
This is beyond unbelievable. It's alright when the Tories attack Labour, "they want to let them all in", "Starmer failed to prosecute Savile", "they are on the side of criminals'"...... but when Labour use the same tactics they become hysterical and accuse Labour of stooping into the gutter. The Tories live, exist and operate in the gutter, if you need to fight them get in the gutter. 🤣 There's nothing wrong with fighting fire with fire, even when that fire is in the gutter. The problem is the Tory propaganda machine is so highly polished and well established in the area of throwing insults, insinuations and denigration, so much so that its followers believe whatever is put their way. So they are shocked, surprised and disturbed when they get a taste of their own medicine. Do you not see the problem with setting your position of being "the adults in the room" then showing a complete lack of leadership when somebody in your team does the exact same thing you complained about? ie when Starmer rightly called Boris out for a "personal slur" on him regarding Saville. I highly doubt Starmer was aware of this poster, but he has to call it or he just provides free ammo to the Tories. The Tories are going to spin this as racist. All Starmer has to do to walk this next election is hold the Tories to account without resorting to lies, and then set a positive vision for how he will run the country. Remember, he has to win floating voters over if he wants a good majority. If the electorate is faced with a choice of voting for a shit show Tory party, or a shit show Labour party... they are not going to bother voting.
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Post by see2 on Apr 9, 2023 18:50:17 GMT
Sarcasm, that's just about your level LOL Hypocrisy seems to be yours, lol The difference being that you were guilty of sarcasm, while your made up reply is just immature nonsense.
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Post by see2 on Apr 9, 2023 19:10:56 GMT
There's nothing wrong with fighting fire with fire, even when that fire is in the gutter. The problem is the Tory propaganda machine is so highly polished and well established in the area of throwing insults, insinuations and denigration, so much so that its followers believe whatever is put their way. So they are shocked, surprised and disturbed when they get a taste of their own medicine. Do you not see the problem with setting your position of being "the adults in the room" then showing a complete lack of leadership when somebody in your team does the exact same thing you complained about? ie when Starmer rightly called Boris out for a "personal slur" on him regarding Saville. I highly doubt Starmer was aware of this poster, but he has to call it or he just provides free ammo to the Tories. The Tories are going to spin this as racist. All Starmer has to do to walk this next election is hold the Tories to account without resorting to lies, and then set a positive vision for how he will run the country. Remember, he has to win floating voters over if he wants a good majority. If the electorate is faced with a choice of voting for a shit show Tory party, or a shit show Labour party... they are not going to bother voting. Leadership might be your reason for being here, it isn't mine. The problem has been made very very clear, fighting fire with fire on a forum full of nasty insinuating posters is the problem. It seems fair to me. I have pointed out quite a few times in the past where a poster has used the truth as a basis for insinuating a lie. Just look at the insinuated lies that claim Starmer defended Jimmy Saville. The problem is the electorate, they have proved many times that they DO swallow this sort of nonsense. The electorate will make their own mind up on who or what they vote for, if the electorate were not so naïve and so easily led the country would not have been in the mess it has mostly been in for the last 70 years.
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Post by see2 on Apr 9, 2023 19:13:00 GMT
Starmer has not made any laws in the UK. 🙄 But he has broken many of them. You do have a bagful of empty replies.
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Post by andrewbrown on Apr 9, 2023 20:48:21 GMT
But he has broken many of them. You do have a bagful of empty replies. I'm afraid him and his mate contribute nothing other than made up shit on this forum. I'm losing the will.
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