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Post by zanygame on Oct 27, 2022 16:41:49 GMT
Then why did Liz Truss have to do such somersaults to stop the vote going ahead? I already answered that - to ensure that Labour didn't take control of the business agenda for the House. But why did she need to if only the elected government can set the agenda? Are you admitting that elected MP's from any party can set the agenda unless prevented? |
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Post by colbops on Oct 27, 2022 16:54:18 GMT
I already answered that - to ensure that Labour didn't take control of the business agenda for the House. But why did she need to if only the elected government can set the agenda? Are you admitting that elected MP's from any party can set the agenda unless prevented? what do you mean by agenda? |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 27, 2022 16:58:22 GMT
I already answered that - to ensure that Labour didn't take control of the business agenda for the House. But why did she need to if only the elected government can set the agenda? Are you admitting that elected MP's from any party can set the agenda unless prevented? Of course - the custom was that the Government Party set the agenda for Parliament. This custom was thrown out the window during the Brexit shenanigans and needs to be reimposed for the smooth operation of government. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 27, 2022 17:01:05 GMT
But why did she need to if only the elected government can set the agenda? Are you admitting that elected MP's from any party can set the agenda unless prevented? what do you mean by agenda? The custom is that the Governing Party decides what business is brought before the House. Opposition MP's get the chance to introduce Legislation through the MP's Private Members Bills, but it has never been the case that the official opposition are allowed to introduce Legislation. |
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Post by colbops on Oct 27, 2022 17:29:49 GMT
what do you mean by agenda? The custom is that the Governing Party decides what business is brought before the House. Opposition MP's get the chance to introduce Legislation through the MP's Private Members Bills, but it has never been the case that the official opposition are allowed to introduce Legislation. That is why I asked what he meant by agenda. Introducing a bill to parliament is tough if you are anyone other than a minister since it would need to be allocated a slot by the PBL committee, which is chaired by the Leader of the House of Commons, and the Government can always oppose it if the PBL committee doesn't nip it in the bud for them automatically. It is easy for any MP to move a motion but using that mechanism in an attempt to force a draft bill before parliament or force a debate the government doesn't want to have is going to get shut down pretty damn quickly via a division as a point of principle. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 27, 2022 17:48:41 GMT
This will rattle khans cage....I wonder what the little tit from Swedens carbon footprint will be when she goes there to spread her ECO bullshit? Rishi Sunak pulls out of Cop-27 climate summit and downgrades the status of his climate minister - but No10 insists new PM remains committed to net zero target Rishi Sunak provokes a row after No10 reveals he won't be attending Cop-27 PM will snub the Egypt climate summit to focus on 'pressing' domestic issues Labour accuse Mr Sunak of a 'massive failure of leadership' over non-attendance
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2022 18:18:32 GMT
This will rattle khans cage....I wonder what the little tit from Swedens carbon footprint will be when she goes there to spread her ECO bullshit? Rishi Sunak pulls out of Cop-27 climate summit and downgrades the status of his climate minister - but No10 insists new PM remains committed to net zero target Rishi Sunak provokes a row after No10 reveals he won't be attending Cop-27 PM will snub the Egypt climate summit to focus on 'pressing' domestic issues Labour accuse Mr Sunak of a 'massive failure of leadership' over non-attendance
I hadn't heard about Sunak pulling out of Cop-27 or downgrading the status of the climate minister, great news. And the fact that Labour are whinging about it makes it even better. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 27, 2022 18:44:04 GMT
This will rattle khans cage....I wonder what the little tit from Swedens carbon footprint will be when she goes there to spread her ECO bullshit? Rishi Sunak pulls out of Cop-27 climate summit and downgrades the status of his climate minister - but No10 insists new PM remains committed to net zero target Rishi Sunak provokes a row after No10 reveals he won't be attending Cop-27 PM will snub the Egypt climate summit to focus on 'pressing' domestic issues Labour accuse Mr Sunak of a 'massive failure of leadership' over non-attendance
I hadn't heard about Sunak pulling out of Cop-27 or downgrading the status of the climate minister, great news. And the fact that Labour are whinging about it makes it even better. I guess he's pretty busy at the moment, but the UK leads the world on fighting climate change. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2022 18:48:58 GMT
I hadn't heard about Sunak pulling out of Cop-27 or downgrading the status of the climate minister, great news. And the fact that Labour are whinging about it makes it even better. I guess he's pretty busy at the moment, but the UK leads the world on fighting climate change. Of course, that's why millions of people in this country are in fuel poverty. Cold winters kill a damned sight more people than hot summers, but let's not get bogged down with facts. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 19:06:50 GMT
I guess he's pretty busy at the moment, but the UK leads the world on fighting climate change. Of course, that's why millions of people in this country are in fuel poverty. Cold winters kill a damned sight more people than hot summers, but let's not get bogged down with facts. Something you seldom let yourself get bogged down with. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2022 19:13:16 GMT
Of course, that's why millions of people in this country are in fuel poverty. Cold winters kill a damned sight more people than hot summers, but let's not get bogged down with facts. Something you seldom let yourself get bogged down with. What a quip, your best yet. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 27, 2022 19:16:33 GMT
I guess he's pretty busy at the moment, but the UK leads the world on fighting climate change. Of course, that's why millions of people in this country are in fuel poverty. Cold winters kill a damned sight more people than hot summers, but let's not get bogged down with facts. Renewables go back long before fuel poverty or the Ukraine war . I wont bother to try and educate you on the rest. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2022 19:25:14 GMT
Of course, that's why millions of people in this country are in fuel poverty. Cold winters kill a damned sight more people than hot summers, but let's not get bogged down with facts. Renewables go back long before fuel poverty or the Ukraine war . I wont bother to try and educate you on the rest. Renewables are expensive, propped up by the green levy, unwanted by the majority and an absolute bonus for the dirtiest economy in the world. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 27, 2022 19:37:29 GMT
Renewables go back long before fuel poverty or the Ukraine war . I wont bother to try and educate you on the rest. Renewables are expensive, propped up by the green levy, unwanted by the majority and an absolute bonus for the dirtiest economy in the world. Renewables have been getting cheaper year on year. They offer not only a solution to AGW but energy security (Not relying on Putin for Gas or the bloody Arabs  As for what the public want, you are the one out of step piltdown man. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2022 19:51:30 GMT
ZG, in April Boris was considering scrapping the green levy, which as you know subsidises renewables because they're expensive, and in turn increase peoples fuel bills. Sunak (As chancellor) said he understood the strength of feeling in the party and that scrapping the levy was an “attractive option.” We'll see.
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