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Post by sword on Oct 22, 2022 11:46:05 GMT
Fracking has been safely used in the United States since 1947. More than 1.7 million U.S. wells have been completed using the fracking process, producing more than seven billion barrels of oil and 600 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. And that gas is being liquified and sold to us by the Yanks. Kerching! Win win for USA. At several times the price of Russian gas,so who else is winning? |
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Post by sword on Oct 22, 2022 11:49:08 GMT
The vote should have been declared null and void due to Tory thugs manhandling MPs into the no lobby. The ring leaders being Mogg and Coffin Coffey. Manhandled by those two, the stuff of nightmares. Those Tory thugs have a lot in common with SA brown shirted thugs in a Munich beer hall. |
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Post by sword on Oct 22, 2022 11:51:00 GMT
Its the boomerang sanctions STUPID.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 22, 2022 16:25:03 GMT
The vote should have been declared null and void due to Tory thugs manhandling MPs into the no lobby. The ring leaders being Mogg and Coffin Coffey. Manhandled by those two, the stuff of nightmares. Those Tory thugs have a lot in common with SA brown shirted thugs in a Munich beer hall. Oh do get a grip of yourself sword...  How much of a useless twat would you have to be to allow yourself to be 'manhandled' by an old granny like this?  |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 22, 2022 16:29:28 GMT
The government has debated and voted on the issue. Having said that, I suppose in good old remainiac tradition, you want another vote? Ah yes no doubt they will want a vote without the bullying and threats. Bloody snowflakes. Well said ZG, I feel you're finally getting on board  |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 22, 2022 16:38:01 GMT
Ah yes no doubt they will want a vote without the bullying and threats. Bloody snowflakes. Well said ZG, I feel you're finally getting on board I'll always have a soft spot for you Red. (No kissing though) Try not to go too mad wont you.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2022 19:51:30 GMT
And that gas is being liquified and sold to us by the Yanks. Kerching! Win win for USA. At several times the price of Russian gas,so who else is winning? The Chinese were, whilst they were importing LNG from Russia and exporting it to the EU, which was one way of avoiding the sanctions. However, my point is that fracking can produce vast quantities of gas which if we got on with it in this country, could help make us energy self sufficient. Wind farms will only help make us self sufficient, well, when it is windy. Come settled cold weather in the winter, we may not have enough gas to generate electricity. One thing to be avoided is the fracked gas being in the hands of private or multi national companies, which could sell the gas abroad - that must be prohibited, unless we have enough to export and keep ourselves warm. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 22, 2022 20:26:31 GMT
At several times the price of Russian gas,so who else is winning? The Chinese were, whilst they were importing LNG from Russia and exporting it to the EU, which was one way of avoiding the sanctions. However, my point is that fracking can produce vast quantities of gas which if we got on with it in this country, could help make us energy self sufficient. Wind farms will only help make us self sufficient, well, when it is windy. Come settled cold weather in the winter, we may not have enough gas to generate electricity. One thing to be avoided is the fracked gas being in the hands of private or multi national companies, which could sell the gas abroad - that must be prohibited, unless we have enough to export and keep ourselves warm. I agree. The thing folks need to remember is that carbon neutral does not mean no Gas or oil. So why not make the 20% we will always need come from our own soil. |
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 23, 2022 0:52:10 GMT
Tragic Truss clearly said "if the local communities want it".
No community is going to want it, so it is merely a token gesture to shut up the people calling for it, so they box it off and claim they are going all they can.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 23, 2022 6:25:18 GMT
Tragic Truss clearly said "if the local communities want it". No community is going to want it, so it is merely a token gesture to shut up the people calling for it, so they box it off and claim they are going all they can. Didn't she try to turn it into a confidence vote? |
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 25, 2022 0:13:45 GMT
Tragic Truss clearly said "if the local communities want it". No community is going to want it, so it is merely a token gesture to shut up the people calling for it, so they box it off and claim they are going all they can. Didn't she try to turn it into a confidence vote? She did, then she didn't, then people started arguing in the lobbies lol. ..but again, it wasn't a vote on allowing/banning fracking... it was a vote of whether a Labour bill to ban fracking would be allowed debating time. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 25, 2022 6:35:24 GMT
Didn't she try to turn it into a confidence vote? She did, then she didn't, then people started arguing in the lobbies lol. ..but again, it wasn't a vote on allowing/banning fracking... it was a vote of whether a Labour bill to ban fracking would be allowed debating time. True. But the glaring question is why she wanted the bill to be undebated. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 25, 2022 6:40:14 GMT
She did, then she didn't, then people started arguing in the lobbies lol. ..but again, it wasn't a vote on allowing/banning fracking... it was a vote of whether a Labour bill to ban fracking would be allowed debating time. True. But the glaring question is why she wanted the bill to be undebated. Ooh let me think - a Government not wanting the opposition to set the agenda, why on earth would that happen. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 25, 2022 11:56:40 GMT
And that gas is being liquified and sold to us by the Yanks. Kerching! Win win for USA. At several times the price of Russian gas,so who else is winning? Certainly not Russia. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 25, 2022 12:10:01 GMT
At several times the price of Russian gas,so who else is winning? The Chinese were, whilst they were importing LNG from Russia and exporting it to the EU, which was one way of avoiding the sanctions. However, my point is that fracking can produce vast quantities of gas which if we got on with it in this country, could help make us energy self sufficient. Wind farms will only help make us self sufficient, well, when it is windy. Come settled cold weather in the winter, we may not have enough gas to generate electricity. One thing to be avoided is the fracked gas being in the hands of private or multi national companies, which could sell the gas abroad - that must be prohibited, unless we have enough to export and keep ourselves warm. I remember a move to Gas for power stations, perhaps in these desperate, or desperate to be times, the odd coal fired station might be necessary. |
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