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Post by Pacifico on Oct 21, 2022 21:23:11 GMT
I accept that roads, homes, transport networks etc are necessary - but Fracking is not necessary, and the defacto answer for Fracking applications in or close to National Parks should always be .... NO We are currently spending £150Bn on HS2 - which needs power to work. If you need to override local NIMBY complaints about transport infrastructure then what is the difference with overriding local NIMBY complaints about power generation infrastructure to power your new shiny transport networks?.. |
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Post by sword on Oct 21, 2022 21:35:24 GMT
Russia is going to freeze half of Europe this winter to teach them a lesson, they are not going to give up because the West say they are losing. This war will go on for years so extra North Sea wells and fracking (if they could ever get locals to agree with it) will make a difference. The only ones freezing Europe are the EU leaders,its not Russia who blew up Nordstream or imposed boomerang sanctions,they would still be willing to provide cheap gas like they did for decades if the EU leaders and America found their sanity. |
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Post by sword on Oct 21, 2022 21:37:40 GMT
On the South side of the North York Moors National Park, half an hour from me, is the village of Kirby Misperton, the site of what was a controversial Fracking test site. The people who live in Kirby Misperton do not want Fracking, neither do any of the other neighbouring villages. There are 5 Town Councils within 20 minutes drive, Pickering, Malton, Norton, Helmsley and Kirkbymoorside, and every Town Council opposes Fracking. THe people of the area are opposed to Fracking, not least because many of the possible sites are either within, or close to the National Park. The area is part of the Malton & Thirsk Parliamentary constituency, a fairly solid Conservative seat held by Kevin Hollinrake, however the constituency did switch to Liberal in a by-election in the late 1980s. WHY do the Conservatives not listen to THE PEOPLE ? So we should have no major infrastructure and building projects unless the local people agree? - no HS2, Elizabeth Line, no mass housebuilding, no new roads etc etc It doesnt sound like the wisest way to run a country. Well i live not far from where there were earthquakes last time,were there any where you live? |
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Post by petenz on Oct 21, 2022 21:41:16 GMT
Well i live not far from where there were earthquakes last time,were there any where you live? Lots. But not due to fracking.  |
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Post by sword on Oct 21, 2022 21:46:55 GMT
Well it was down to fracking in my area,but you live on the other side of the World i believe.
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Post by petenz on Oct 21, 2022 21:51:29 GMT
Yes indeed. I live in Godzone.
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Post by sword on Oct 21, 2022 22:06:52 GMT
Yes indeed. I live in Godzone. Some friends of mine were over there some years ago for a six week tour,they said it was fantastic with tropical conditions. |
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Post by petenz on Oct 21, 2022 22:16:57 GMT
Yes indeed. I live in Godzone. Some friends of mine were over there some years ago for a six week tour,they said it was fantastic with tropical conditions. Nice compliment from them, I'm glad they had a good time. We do try to arrange things for the tourists such as sun during the day and rain only at night. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 22:19:39 GMT
On the South side of the North York Moors National Park, half an hour from me, is the village of Kirby Misperton, the site of what was a controversial Fracking test site. The people who live in Kirby Misperton do not want Fracking, neither do any of the other neighbouring villages. There are 5 Town Councils within 20 minutes drive, Pickering, Malton, Norton, Helmsley and Kirkbymoorside, and every Town Council opposes Fracking. THe people of the area are opposed to Fracking, not least because many of the possible sites are either within, or close to the National Park. The area is part of the Malton & Thirsk Parliamentary constituency, a fairly solid Conservative seat held by Kevin Hollinrake, however the constituency did switch to Liberal in a by-election in the late 1980s. WHY do the Conservatives not listen to THE PEOPLE ? So we should have no major infrastructure and building projects unless the local people agree? - no HS2, Elizabeth Line, no mass housebuilding, no new roads etc etc It doesnt sound like the wisest way to run a country. I was working in Thailand on and off for a few years and in that time they built an expressway system, an underground and "Skytrain" plus a new airport - sometimes corruption works. In that time we progressed the HS2 planning application a little bit. I've no problem with people disagreeing with stuff until they then moan about how backward we are compared to other countries. Another example - reservoirs and water shortage... "What's the government fucking doing about it??" Answer: Trying to build reservoirs but they are frequently blocked by locals. My own mum being one of them... It's fun, easy and often lucrative for many to blame the government for everything but sadly the truth is far more depressing, it is the British general pubic behind most of the failures. I'm looking forward to Labour getting in and seeing how the left leaning mainstream media and left leaning celebrity based social media pass off their similar failures. They will do it of course, and most gullible twats will fall for it. |
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Post by distant on Oct 21, 2022 22:39:52 GMT
The vote should have been declared null and void due to Tory thugs manhandling MPs into the no lobby. The ring leaders being Mogg and Coffin Coffey. Manhandled by those two, the stuff of nightmares.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 22, 2022 6:43:17 GMT
Someone else now stamping their feet and crying, when all they had to do was go fracking.. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 22, 2022 7:08:08 GMT
Someone else now stamping their feet and crying, when all they had to do was go fracking.. I support fracking, but this is far more important, another indication of the fracturing of our world. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2022 9:28:57 GMT
Fracking has been safely used in the United States since 1947. More than 1.7 million U.S. wells have been completed using the fracking process, producing more than seven billion barrels of oil and 600 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. And that gas is being liquified and sold to us by the Yanks. Kerching! Win win for USA. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 22, 2022 9:30:38 GMT
Fracking has been safely used in the United States since 1947. More than 1.7 million U.S. wells have been completed using the fracking process, producing more than seven billion barrels of oil and 600 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. Exactly. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2022 10:52:50 GMT
On the South side of the North York Moors National Park, half an hour from me, is the village of Kirby Misperton, the site of what was a controversial Fracking test site. The people who live in Kirby Misperton do not want Fracking, neither do any of the other neighbouring villages. There are 5 Town Councils within 20 minutes drive, Pickering, Malton, Norton, Helmsley and Kirkbymoorside, and every Town Council opposes Fracking. THe people of the area are opposed to Fracking, not least because many of the possible sites are either within, or close to the National Park. The area is part of the Malton & Thirsk Parliamentary constituency, a fairly solid Conservative seat held by Kevin Hollinrake, however the constituency did switch to Liberal in a by-election in the late 1980s. WHY do the Conservatives not listen to THE PEOPLE ? MY ORIGINAL POST (Above) We have National Parks for various reasons, such as to preserve the natural beauty of a designated area ( a national park ), and to retain that natural beauty by NOT allowing any large scale developments which would spoil / conflict with the purpose of National Parks. This would include not allowing large scale industrial complexes, mines, mineral extraction, major developments, the extraction and processing of oil and gas and the generation of energy - ALL of which conflict with the "purpose" of a National Park. The present government is allowing licences to test for Shale Gas within National Parks -- Why ? What is the point of National Parks if "The Purpose" as set out in law is just simply ignored |
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