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Post by Toreador on Mar 30, 2023 10:53:35 GMT
The law uses in the first instance "The Law" as written, in the second instance, law then uses precedence, due diligence and common sense or logical interpretation. An Asylum Seeker is an Asylum Seeker from the very moment that they declare they are an Asylum Seeker, usualy to a representative of the government, or an official. This means a Police Officer, an Immigration Officer, a Customs Officer, a Coastguard officer etc. If a refugee is to be arrested for illegal entry, we assume that the arrest will be made by either an Immigration Officer or a Police Officer, but upon confronting such an officer, a refugee will then declare that they are here to seek asylum. I repeat again - that International Law which the UK is party to, seems to contradict the governments new Immigration Bill. If this ridiculous government wish to make crossing the Channel Illegal, thereby barring such people from claiming asylum, then they need to consider removing the UK from the treaty. A couple of years ago the police and border force raided an Indian restaurant and grabbed several workers who had been working there for months. Some shrieked "Asylum" and were accepted as seekers; do you think that's right? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 30, 2023 10:54:20 GMT
The law uses in the first instance "The Law" as written, in the second instance, law then uses precedence, due diligence and common sense or logical interpretation. An Asylum Seeker is an Asylum Seeker from the very moment that they declare they are an Asylum Seeker, usualy to a representative of the government, or an official. This means a Police Officer, an Immigration Officer, a Customs Officer, a Coastguard officer etc. If a refugee is to be arrested for illegal entry, we assume that the arrest will be made by either an Immigration Officer or a Police Officer, but upon confronting such an officer, a refugee will then declare that they are here to seek asylum. I repeat again - that International Law which the UK is party to, seems to contradict the governments new Immigration Bill. If this ridiculous government wish to make crossing the Channel Illegal, thereby barring such people from claiming asylum, then they need to consider removing the UK from the treaty. Refugee asylum and immigration law is an outdated ass, it is not fit for purpose. People who pay gangsters to get them from safe country A, to safe country B, are criminals. There is no grey area, they are criminals and should be treated accordingly. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 30, 2023 10:56:09 GMT
The law uses in the first instance "The Law" as written, in the second instance, law then uses precedence, due diligence and common sense or logical interpretation. An Asylum Seeker is an Asylum Seeker from the very moment that they declare they are an Asylum Seeker, usualy to a representative of the government, or an official. This means a Police Officer, an Immigration Officer, a Customs Officer, a Coastguard officer etc. If a refugee is to be arrested for illegal entry, we assume that the arrest will be made by either an Immigration Officer or a Police Officer, but upon confronting such an officer, a refugee will then declare that they are here to seek asylum. I repeat again - that International Law which the UK is party to, seems to contradict the governments new Immigration Bill. If this ridiculous government wish to make crossing the Channel Illegal, thereby barring such people from claiming asylum, then they need to consider removing the UK from the treaty. And as per usual the wankers you support would be up in arms if they did...Its you and the tossers you support who are the problem with all this faux concern over criminals. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 30, 2023 11:03:13 GMT
They have used criminal organisations to gain access to the UK. They are no less criminals than if they washed up on our beaches with a kilo of drugs stuck up their jumper. Exactly, if these people traffickers are terrorists, and using funds as money laundering , these illegal migrants are committing criminal offenses.
Money laundering generally refers to financial transactions in which criminals, including terrorist organizations, attempt to disguise the proceeds, sources or nature of their illicit activities.
How do we know who these people traffickers are, and what they are using that money for, imagine the irony if they were using that money to fund terrorists who want to attack the UK.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 30, 2023 11:07:49 GMT
The law uses in the first instance "The Law" as written, in the second instance, law then uses precedence, due diligence and common sense or logical interpretation. An Asylum Seeker is an Asylum Seeker from the very moment that they declare they are an Asylum Seeker, usualy to a representative of the government, or an official. This means a Police Officer, an Immigration Officer, a Customs Officer, a Coastguard officer etc. If a refugee is to be arrested for illegal entry, we assume that the arrest will be made by either an Immigration Officer or a Police Officer, but upon confronting such an officer, a refugee will then declare that they are here to seek asylum. I repeat again - that International Law which the UK is party to, seems to contradict the governments new Immigration Bill. If this ridiculous government wish to make crossing the Channel Illegal, thereby barring such people from claiming asylum, then they need to consider removing the UK from the treaty. Refugee asylum and immigration law is an outdated ass, it is not fit for purpose. People who pay gangsters to get them from safe country A, to safe country B, are criminals. There is no grey area, they are criminals and should be treated accordingly. Indeed. The migrants had enough resources to pay organised criminals to facilitate their illegal entry to the UK. They didn’t bravely trek across continents eating berries and begging for alms on the way. The whole enterprise is a cynical effort to fast track illegal immigrants into our asylum system and supported by leftie idiots who want to undermine UK society. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 30, 2023 11:19:21 GMT
Strange how we witnessed before our very eyes how quickly laws can be written in, namely the Benn act.
In their desperate bid to thwart Brexit they tried every trick in the book, and when that failed they even made new laws, why can't they do that now?
Act 2019, commonly informally referred to as the Benn Act after the Labour MP Hilary Benn as Chair of the Exiting the European Union Select Committee who introduced it, was an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that required the Prime Minister of the UK to seek an extension to the Brexit withdrawal date
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Post by Handyman on Mar 30, 2023 13:24:59 GMT
They have used criminal organisations to gain access to the UK. They are no less criminals than if they washed up on our beaches with a kilo of drugs stuck up their jumper. Exactly, if these people traffickers are terrorists, and using funds as money laundering , these illegal migrants are committing criminal offenses.
Money laundering generally refers to financial transactions in which criminals, including terrorist organizations, attempt to disguise the proceeds, sources or nature of their illicit activities.
How do we know who these people traffickers are, and what they are using that money for, imagine the irony if they were using that money to fund terrorists who want to attack the UK.
When it comes to the worldwide Albanian Crime Syndicates if they lodge their ill-gotten gains from drug dealing and smuggling people etc if they pay a few backhanders to Albanian Bankers and Politicians they can hide their money in plain sight in Albanian Banks, anyone that crosses them end up dead |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 30, 2023 13:29:45 GMT
The Government did suggest they may house alleged refugees on Barges and older Cruise Ships but I believe that has been kicked into the long grass as it would be more expensive than the Hotels
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Post by jonksy on Mar 30, 2023 13:32:12 GMT
The Government did suggest they may house alleged refugees on Barges and older Cruise Ships but I believe that has been kicked into the long grass as it would be more expensive than the Hotels A few acres of land a few rolls of razor wire and a tarp each....There ya go sorted. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 30, 2023 13:41:22 GMT
The Government did suggest they may house alleged refugees on Barges and older Cruise Ships but I believe that has been kicked into the long grass as it would be more expensive than the Hotels In the world of Lineker **Asylum seekers welcome**, even though they are illegal migrants, it's only the far-right racists who don't want them.
Wrong ..
Fury at new migrant plan in tiny English village that faces almost doubling its population
EXCLUSIVE: Residents of the village of Wethersfield are incensed as diggers begin constructing an asylum seeker centre right on their doorstep.
So Jug ears thinks everyone who lives in the tiny English village of Wethersfield are far-right racists?
Furious residents have accused Robert Jenrick of "piling" the nation's asylum seeker pressure onto their tiny Essex village, after building work to house Channel migrants got underway yesterday on the former RAF base right next to their homes. Diggers could be seen working on the site, which was used by airmen in World War 2 and is still the home to 24 military families.
previously revealed that military wives and children are going to have to share the air base with the incoming asylum seekers.
One source, that lives on the the former RAF site, said: “Ninety per cent of the time my husband is away, so it’s me on my own with my children.
“It’s the same for most of the wives on the site. Our husbands' jobs mean they are away a lot. You know, it is concerning. We are worried.”
“We don’t feel safe”.
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Post by Handyman on Mar 30, 2023 13:51:46 GMT
What could possibly go wrong , at least the Tories are listening to the people, which is more than can be said on the Opposition Benches , and the well healed Luvvies
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Post by piglet on Mar 30, 2023 14:02:19 GMT
My generation is of post ww2, i was born in 1957. People were encouraged back then to have children big families, pop music was all about falling in love. At various times i have read that when my generation goes, the population will dip alarmingly. Women are less keen to have children, contraception, careers for women etc, the old model of the man being the bread winner, and the female the homemaker is gone.
Which is a shame, i grew up like that. Two incomes are now required. Anyway, for what its worth, i think the government is dragging its feet because it wants immigrants of any sort because of the population crisis, yet to come. No government can be this incompetent, and for gods sake, why not just say it if thats the reason.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2023 16:47:59 GMT
The Tories haven't got a clue what they are doing.🤣 And your party is not in aposition to do anything.  I know, the Moon is quite empty though.😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2023 16:48:55 GMT
And your party is not in aposition to do anything. Whats far more to the point is their position is to do sod all except open the fucking floodgates. The numbers have risen since Labour were the government. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 30, 2023 16:50:48 GMT
My generation is of post ww2, i was born in 1957. People were encouraged back then to have children big families, pop music was all about falling in love. At various times i have read that when my generation goes, the population will dip alarmingly. Women are less keen to have children, contraception, careers for women etc, the old model of the man being the bread winner, and the female the homemaker is gone. Which is a shame, i grew up like that. Two incomes are now required. Anyway, for what its worth, i think the government is dragging its feet because it wants immigrants of any sort because of the population crisis, yet to come. No government can be this incompetent, and for gods sake, why not just say it if thats the reason. I was born in 52 and the schools at my time there were busy telling us how we had to limit the population and birth control was essential to save the planet of course. |
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