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Post by om15 on Apr 7, 2023 14:57:17 GMT
Seems like it, have you ever been to Weymouth?
I looked across to Portland from the cliffs at Ringstead this morning and thought I could see the barge, it is tied up where the floating prison used to be I think. It was a lovely day and a perfect place to be detained indefinitely.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 8, 2023 11:02:29 GMT
Who cares, the bottom line is the SNP cant do anything without permission from Westminster. But tbh, the SNP have bigger problems to worry about. Devolution confers the right for Scottish law to decide on this matter. In any case, assuming that Westminster could send illegals to an island in Scotland, why would they choose this one, which is uninhabited? Are you really saying that illegals should be sent somewhere where there are no amenities or services at all? If it would act as a deterrent, then yes. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 11:13:52 GMT
Devolution confers the right for Scottish law to decide on this matter. In any case, assuming that Westminster could send illegals to an island in Scotland, why would they choose this one, which is uninhabited? Are you really saying that illegals should be sent somewhere where there are no amenities or services at all? If it would act as a deterrent, then yes. There is no evidence that it would. This is soundbite policy, not evidence-based policy. And it seems to me that the sort of people desperate enough to risk their lives crossing the channel in rubber dinghies, are unlikely to be deterred by a spell on a barge. The real problem here which really does need addressing is the more rapid processing of claims. And Tory cuts in the departments responsible has itself done much to lead to the massive backlog so they only have themselves to blame. Sort that out quickly so that bogus asylum claimants can be far more rapidly deported, and those with genuine claims allowed to far more rapidly integrate into the economy, and much of the problem would be diminished. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 8, 2023 11:51:15 GMT
If it would act as a deterrent, then yes. There is no evidence that it would. This is soundbite policy, not evidence-based policy. And it seems to me that the sort of people desperate enough to risk their lives crossing the channel in rubber dinghies, are unlikely to be deterred by a spell on a barge. The real problem here which really does need addressing is the more rapid processing of claims. And Tory cuts in the departments responsible has itself done much to lead to the massive backlog so they only have themselves to blame. Sort that out quickly so that bogus asylum claimants can be far more rapidly deported, and those with genuine claims allowed to far more rapidly integrate into the economy, and much of the problem would be diminished. Every single illegal who sets foot on an English beach is a criminal and should be treated accordingly. Unless of course, you are of the opinion that buying a cross channel ticket from a people trafficker in order to get from safe country 'A' to safe country 'B' is a legitimate business. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 8, 2023 12:02:46 GMT
If it would act as a deterrent, then yes. There is no evidence that it would. This is soundbite policy, not evidence-based policy. And it seems to me that the sort of people desperate enough to risk their lives crossing the channel in rubber dinghies, are unlikely to be deterred by a spell on a barge. The real problem here which really does need addressing is the more rapid processing of claims. And Tory cuts in the departments responsible has itself done much to lead to the massive backlog so they only have themselves to blame. Sort that out quickly so that bogus asylum claimants can be far more rapidly deported, and those with genuine claims allowed to far more rapidly integrate into the economy, and much of the problem would be diminished. I think the bit that would deter them is the inability to disappear and work for the drugs gangs and the black economy. We hear much of the risks of crossing the channel in a dingy, but they're actually quite low. 45,000 crossed the channel in 2022. 4 died. 0.09% |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 10, 2023 9:05:57 GMT
There is no evidence that it would. This is soundbite policy, not evidence-based policy. And it seems to me that the sort of people desperate enough to risk their lives crossing the channel in rubber dinghies, are unlikely to be deterred by a spell on a barge. The real problem here which really does need addressing is the more rapid processing of claims. And Tory cuts in the departments responsible has itself done much to lead to the massive backlog so they only have themselves to blame. Sort that out quickly so that bogus asylum claimants can be far more rapidly deported, and those with genuine claims allowed to far more rapidly integrate into the economy, and much of the problem would be diminished. I think the bit that would deter them is the inability to disappear and work for the drugs gangs and the black economy. We hear much of the risks of crossing the channel in a dingy, but they're actually quite low. 45,000 crossed the channel in 2022. 4 died. 0.09% LOL www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/it-s-no-deterrent-just-215-of-last-year-s-45-000-migrants-were-deported/ar-AA19EBCo?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7d02fac5c5a344cb96148a84b3deb6f5&ei=23 |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 10, 2023 9:13:45 GMT
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Post by sheepy on Apr 10, 2023 9:33:40 GMT
They are walking around in gangs now, it won't be long before the crime waves escalate, as 45,000 unattended burglaries is advertised. Thats only one each.
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Post by zanygame on Apr 10, 2023 11:46:17 GMT
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 10, 2023 15:16:19 GMT
If it would act as a deterrent, then yes. There is no evidence that it would. This is soundbite policy, not evidence-based policy. And it seems to me that the sort of people desperate enough to risk their lives crossing the channel in rubber dinghies, are unlikely to be deterred by a spell on a barge. The real problem here which really does need addressing is the more rapid processing of claims. And Tory cuts in the departments responsible has itself done much to lead to the massive backlog so they only have themselves to blame. Sort that out quickly so that bogus asylum claimants can be far more rapidly deported, and those with genuine claims allowed to far more rapidly integrate into the economy, and much of the problem would be diminished. Though the tories are somewhat to blame for the slow processing of asylum claims they have tried to make amends in saying nobody arriving illegally gets to claim . Once thats written into law they can all be deported asap . |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 10, 2023 16:10:41 GMT
I didn't like most people on here who tend to make it up as they go along. Then spend days arguing who did or didn't do what between the Westminster party. |
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