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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 29, 2023 0:37:08 GMT
Ministers pledge to house asylum seekers on BARGES moored off British coast in bid to slash taxpayers' £3.5bn bill for hotels.Channel migrants [illegals] will be housed on ex-military bases, disused ships and barges under plans to be announced today. The aim is to end a 'hotel farce' costing taxpayers more than £6million a day. Sites include an Essex airfield and RAF Scampton, home of the Dambusters squadron in the Second World War. The 'floating accommodation' could include disused cruise ships and ferries as well as barges with ship containers as living quarters. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11912759/Ministers-pledge-house-asylum-seekers-BARGES-moored-British-coast.htmlI don't agree with RAF Scampton being used to house illegals, but news of barges and disused ferries is encouraging.
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Post by dodgydave on Mar 29, 2023 0:53:47 GMT
...and step forward the lefty lawyers to make another huge killing by claiming they should be housed in the community so they are free to harass schoolgirls.
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 29, 2023 6:51:24 GMT
"Ministers pledge to house asylum seekers on BARGES"
I for one am getting sick to the back teeth of announcements about action - I'll cheer when we actually start seeing some action.
I see that Sunak is already rowing back on the pledge to ship them to Africa..
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Post by jonksy on Mar 29, 2023 6:57:59 GMT
"Ministers pledge to house asylum seekers on BARGES"I for one am getting sick to the back teeth of announcements about action - I'll cheer when we actually start seeing some action. I see that Sunak is already rowing back on the pledge to ship them to Africa.. Its all bloody smoke and mirrors. It's action that is required and not meaningless words. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 29, 2023 7:21:20 GMT
Ministers pledge to house asylum seekers on BARGES moored off British coast in bid to slash taxpayers' £3.5bn bill for hotels.Channel migrants [illegals] will be housed on ex-military bases, disused ships and barges under plans to be announced today. The aim is to end a 'hotel farce' costing taxpayers more than £6million a day. Sites include an Essex airfield and RAF Scampton, home of the Dambusters squadron in the Second World War. The 'floating accommodation' could include disused cruise ships and ferries as well as barges with ship containers as living quarters. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11912759/Ministers-pledge-house-asylum-seekers-BARGES-moored-British-coast.htmlI don't agree with RAF Scampton being used to house illegals, but news of barges and disused ferries is encouraging. Scampton may become a reality but not without a fight. Opposition is enormous and growing. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 29, 2023 19:48:55 GMT
Asylum seekers 'could be housed on ship in South West' The Government’s Immigration Minister was today expected to signal an end to the use of seaside hotels to house refugees who have arrived in the UK seeking asylum, often making terrifying journeys across the Channel in tiny boats to do so. According to the Guardian, ministers are looking at housing people on ships including a former cruise ship from Indonesia, which would be moored “in south-west England”. Hotels in Paignton, Torquay and Ilfracombe have already been used to provide accommodation for refugees after long delays led to overcrowding at holding centres such as RAF Manston in Kent. The first refugees arrived at the Esplanade Hotel in Paignton at the end of last summer, while further hotels in Torquay and Ilfracombe were put to use as accommodation later in the year. Now Robert Jenrick is expected to announce a change of policy. He said: “Bridging hotels, although safe and secure, were never meant for long-term living - with the uncertainty limiting the ability of families to put down roots in the UK.”
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2023 21:29:31 GMT
The governments entire policy on illegal immigration and asylum is in complete and utter dissaray
Tonight we learn that 66 unaccompanied children have gone missing from just one local authority, Brighton, after disappearing from a hotel.
This is after a government minister 2 months ago admitted that 200 unacompanied children had gone missing, and that government has "no idea" just how many unacompanied children have disappeared.
Meanwhile Tory MPs, frightened of their jobs, are now lining up to protest at government proposals to place asylum seekers in THEIR constituenies, including Sir Edward Leigh who claims that using a semi-redundant RAF base is unsuitable.
What the Tories are doing is a combination of kowtowing to NIMBYS and xenophobes, whilst at the same time failing to have any credible solutions to a problem.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 29, 2023 21:33:33 GMT
The governments entire policy on illegal immigration and asylum is in complete and utter dissaray And labours solution would be what exactly apart from opening the doors to allow even more of this dross into the UK by illegal means? |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 29, 2023 21:34:01 GMT
The governments entire policy on illegal immigration and asylum is in complete and utter dissaray Tonight we learn that 66 unaccompanied children have gone missing from just one local authority, Brighton, after disappearing from a hotel. FFS - you do take the biscuit Sid.  If we put them in secure accommodation you would be the first to start screeching about detention and muttering on about concentration camps - you can either allow them to live in the community or you can lock them up to stop them going AWOL - you cannot have both. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2023 21:54:11 GMT
I keep on asking the same questions over and over again - the same questions that the opposition asks
WHY is there a colossal backlog of asylum applications, why are asylum applications taking so long, why is there not a "Fast-track" for applicants from countries with no war or turmoil such as Albania, where applicants can be quickly turned down, and the applicants sent back.
I have no problem with using former military camps, applicants should be held in secure, safe, humaine conditions until the process is complete, we need to account for the whereabouts of applicants, but we also need to treat them as human beigns, not animals or criminals.
The government is playing Culture Wars instead of addressing the issues, they ARE using language reminiscent of the 1930s, talking about "minimum conditions" and "the most basic conditions allowed under international law".
The Tories have no answers, and instead they are Rabble Rousing, you can almost see the Torch and Pickfork brigade
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Post by jonksy on Mar 29, 2023 21:59:38 GMT
I keep on asking the same questions over and over again - the same questions that the opposition asks WHY is there a colossal backlog of asylum applications, why are asylum applications taking so long, why is there not a "Fast-track" for applicants from countries with no war or turmoil such as Albania, where applicants can be quickly turned down, and the applicants sent back. I have no problem with using former military camps, applicants should be held in secure, safe, humaine conditions until the process is complete, we need to account for the whereabouts of applicants, but we also need to treat them as human beigns, not animals or criminals. The government is playing Culture Wars instead of addressing the issues, they ARE using language reminiscent of the 1930s, talking about "minimum conditions" and "the most basic conditions allowed under international law". The Tories have no answers, and instead they are Rabble Rousing, you can almost see the Torch and Pickfork brigade FFS the left who you support have put every obsticle i the way of any solution the UK government have tried to enforce. It's time these woke pricks got a life in the real world. |
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Post by dodgydave on Mar 30, 2023 2:33:40 GMT
I keep on asking the same questions over and over again - the same questions that the opposition asks WHY is there a colossal backlog of asylum applications, why are asylum applications taking so long, why is there not a "Fast-track" for applicants from countries with no war or turmoil such as Albania, where applicants can be quickly turned down, and the applicants sent back. I have no problem with using former military camps, applicants should be held in secure, safe, humaine conditions until the process is complete, we need to account for the whereabouts of applicants, but we also need to treat them as human beigns, not animals or criminals. The government is playing Culture Wars instead of addressing the issues, they ARE using language reminiscent of the 1930s, talking about "minimum conditions" and "the most basic conditions allowed under international law". The Tories have no answers, and instead they are Rabble Rousing, you can almost see the Torch and Pickfork brigade It is obvious that they have been using slow processing as a deterrent, they just don't want to admit it. If this wasn't the case then they could simply increase personnel and process the claims faster. They have already done a deal with Albania, and as a result the number of Albanians on the boats has dropped dramatically. You want to treat them as human being, yet say they should be detained till their applications are processed? BTW you can't lock people up once they claim asylum, hence the hotels. They are not "playing culture wars", they are responding to the media that's keeps writing articles about asylum seekers being placed in 4 star hotels at the cost of 6 million a day. Their rhetoric is not aimed at you, it is aimed at the people that get outraged over the hotel stories. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 30, 2023 5:47:02 GMT
I keep on asking the same questions over and over again - the same questions that the opposition asks WHY is there a colossal backlog of asylum applications, why are asylum applications taking so long, why is there not a "Fast-track" for applicants from countries with no war or turmoil such as Albania, where applicants can be quickly turned down, and the applicants sent back. I have no problem with using former military camps, applicants should be held in secure, safe, humaine conditions until the process is complete, we need to account for the whereabouts of applicants, but we also need to treat them as human beigns, not animals or criminals. The government is playing Culture Wars instead of addressing the issues, they ARE using language reminiscent of the 1930s, talking about "minimum conditions" and "the most basic conditions allowed under international law". The Tories have no answers, and instead they are Rabble Rousing, you can almost see the Torch and Pickfork brigade It is obvious that they have been using slow processing as a deterrent, they just don't want to admit it. If this wasn't the case then they could simply increase personnel and process the claims faster. They have already done a deal with Albania, and as a result the number of Albanians on the boats has dropped dramatically. You want to treat them as human being, yet say they should be detained till their applications are processed? BTW you can't lock people up once they claim asylum, hence the hotels. They are not "playing culture wars", they are responding to the media that's keeps writing articles about asylum seekers being placed in 4 star hotels at the cost of 6 million a day. Their rhetoric is not aimed at you, it is aimed at the people that get outraged over the hotel stories. Its not rhetoric to those who live in the towns and cities were these arseholes are being put in hotels. And as for the processing time it may help if the wankers never destroyed their own records for starters. Have you any proof that those coming here from Albania have dropped dramaticaly? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 30, 2023 5:50:40 GMT
The irony of using bases built built to defend the borders of the UK.........It shouldn't be about finding places for them to stay it should be about sending them back...that's the solution!........What next when these establishments are full ? Locals go to war over accommodation centres for 5,000 new boat migrants: Government has a 'fight on its hands' as councils across Britain push back on plans to fill old RAF bases and prisons with incoming asylum seekers One Tory council has already lodged a legal challenge to stop the Home Office Plans to house nearly 5,000 asylum seekers in new accommodation centres across Britain are set to be bitterly contested by local authorities. Opponents warned the Government it had a ‘fight on its hands’, amid concern from Tory frontbenchers and senior MPs. One Tory council has already lodged a legal challenge aiming to stop the Home Office plan dead in its tracks. Immigration minister Robert Jenrick announced that 1,200 Channel migrants will be placed in a new centre at Bexhill-on-Sea in East Sussex. He also confirmed the Home Office was pressing ahead with other sites at former military bases at Wethersfield, Essex, and Scampton, Lincolnshire, the former home of the Dambusters squadron and the Red Arrows. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11917473/Locals-war-accommodation-centres-5-000-new-boat-migrants.html |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2023 7:52:50 GMT
jonksy ... "The irony of using bases built built to defend the borders of the UK.........It shouldn't be about finding places for them to stay it should be about sending them back...that's the solution!........What next when these establishments are full ?"
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This kind of thinking is part of the problem, you cannot send anyone back unless or until application for asylum is assessed and considered.
International law states that a person CAN apply for asylum in this country, but in order to do so, the refugee has to claim asylum on British soil to an official - think about that.
If the British government implements a law which states that everyone who enters England without proper passport checks is illegal, and therefore cannot apply for asylum, the question then is .... HOW DOES A PERSON APPLY FOR ASYLUM IN THE UK. ?
If the UK is in contravention of international law, then its likely that the government will be taken to court.
You also cannot come up with the usual tripe, that they are all here because they think Britain is a "soft touch", or that they are all illegal economic migrants, some are, but some are not, and thats why they need properly assesing.
The problem is still the fact that the government and the authorities are taking far too long to assess applications, which is why the numbers are building up, and why more and more places are been sought to house the applicants.
Turning the boats around is not a solution, sending all of them back is not a solution, the solution is to follow proper due process and accept the application, deal with it, and then send the failed applicants back and accept genuine applicants, but dont take forever to do it.
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