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Post by patman post on Mar 29, 2023 18:30:02 GMT
Frankly, you appear to be inventing unlikely scenarios about your own experiences for the sake of arguing — and now pulling in irrelevant Daily Mail reports because my opinions of the Met upset you — and you've not managed to correct anything I've posted about personal gun ownership and use...
Stop being so childish, if you cannot see what is happening day in day out around you and in the Media right across the UK there is little hope for you ever living in the real world Childish? I’m not the one resorting to pulling in newspaper reports about locations I’m unfamiliar with in the hope of scoring a point because of some cherished mistaken belief that the British Bobby remains the character often found in some children’s story book fiction… |
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Post by borchester on Mar 29, 2023 19:21:13 GMT
Frankly, you appear to be inventing unlikely scenarios about your own experiences for the sake of arguing — and now pulling in irrelevant Daily Mail reports because my opinions of the Met upset you — and you've not managed to correct anything I've posted about personal gun ownership and use...
Stop being so childish, if you cannot see what is happening day in day out around you and in the Media right across the UK there is little hope for you ever living in the real world Pat is a professional victim, so reality is not a big thing in his world |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 29, 2023 20:00:14 GMT
That could be the problem — they’re taught how to shoot, but not necessarily how to handle firearms responsibly in the various situations in civilian scenarios and evaluated as to their fitness to be let loose with guns among the public… The guy I referred to in my previous post also taught about handling guns and even went on real life incidents. One of my friends was part of the armed police and was John Majors body guard. Lovely guy, 19 stone of solid muscle. |
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Post by ginnyg on Apr 6, 2023 11:20:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 11:54:47 GMT
There is a report that the Met are diverting officers from terrorist and serious crime to deal with the criminality in their own ranks.
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Post by Handyman on Apr 6, 2023 12:21:21 GMT
The reports I heard and read stated they have taken a few Officers from the Terrorist Unit and Serious Crime Units will be have ben taken off front line duties as they are under suspicion of historical offences they will be investigated, as are some Police Staff.
The Met Commissioner estimates that about 200 Office including Civil Staff may well be sacked in the very near future
I have corrected my post as Pat is right they have taken some Officers off front line duties to help investigate those suspect of offences
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Post by patman post on Apr 6, 2023 12:24:07 GMT
Here's hoping the officers don't only concentrate on what's recently hit the headlines, ie:
scandals, including a sex murder by PC Wayne Couzens, multiple rapes by PC David Carrick and a recent review that branded the force institutionally racist, misogynistic and homophobic.
Otherwise, serious though all the above are, criminals will rejoice because their associates, facilitators and informers in the Met will remain intact and useful...
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 6, 2023 12:36:46 GMT
I dare say that some low ranking officers will get the sack over minor transgressions so that "something can be seen to be done" and meanwhile superintendents convicted of serious offences will continue to keep their jobs.
Mind you, the last one was black and female so I suppose that makes it okay.
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Post by Handyman on Apr 6, 2023 12:36:59 GMT
Here's hoping the officers don't only concentrate on what's recently hit the headlines, ie:
scandals, including a sex murder by PC Wayne Couzens, multiple rapes by PC David Carrick and a recent review that branded the force institutionally racist, misogynistic and homophobic.
Otherwise, serious though all the above are, criminals will rejoice because their associates, facilitators and informers in the Met will remain intact and useful...
According to the media the Unit Couzens and Carrick Firearms Units were in hundreds of complaints made about the Unit both were convicted and banged up, its common knowledge that all Police Officers are racists ,misogynists homophobic and wife beaters, every single one of them, right across the UK |
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Post by patman post on Apr 6, 2023 17:22:03 GMT
Apparently the Met has 34,350 officers and 161 of them, so far, have been found to have criminal convictions. That works out as one in 213 officers — I wonder how that compares with the general population…
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 6, 2023 17:45:47 GMT
Apparently the Met has 34,350 officers and 161 of them, so far, have been found to have criminal convictions. That works out as one in 213 officers — I wonder how that compares with the general population… Quote: a. Any offence that has resulted in a prison sentence (including suspended or deferred)
b. You are, or have been, a registered sex offender or are subject to a registration requirement in respect of any other conviction.
c. You are currently on the Police Barred List.
That leaves an awful lot of possible criminal convictions that would not disqualify anyone from joining the police or being a police officer. Therefore, I'm slightly surprised the Met has just 161 officers out of 34,350 who have criminal convictions. |
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Post by Handyman on Apr 6, 2023 18:38:33 GMT
Apparently the Met has 34,350 officers and 161 of them, so far, have been found to have criminal convictions. That works out as one in 213 officers — I wonder how that compares with the general population… A good question , you will find that there are bad apples in all large organisations and across the general public at large |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 6, 2023 20:10:52 GMT
Apparently the Met has 34,350 officers and 161 of them, so far, have been found to have criminal convictions. That works out as one in 213 officers — I wonder how that compares with the general population… Apparently there are 735,000 people in England and Wales with an unspent conviction, so what is that, about 1 in 80. |
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Post by Toreador on Apr 6, 2023 20:13:20 GMT
Apparently the Met has 34,350 officers and 161 of them, so far, have been found to have criminal convictions. That works out as one in 213 officers — I wonder how that compares with the general population… Apparently there are 735,000 people in England and Wales with an unspent conviction, so what is that, about 1 in 80. When is a conviction spent? |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 6, 2023 20:18:13 GMT
Apparently there are 735,000 people in England and Wales with an unspent conviction, so what is that, about 1 in 80. When is a conviction spent? Not sure, there is some blurb on it somewhere. |
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