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Post by Pacifico on Jan 27, 2023 17:28:10 GMT
Polly Toynbee in todays Guardian calling for an end to the Universal State Pension - wise move or will it just encourage more people to sponge off the State?
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 27, 2023 17:36:04 GMT
Polly Toynbee in todays Guardian calling for an end to the Universal State Pension - wise move or will it just encourage more people to sponge off the State? If a Tory had suggested the state pension should be scrapped, Labour and outraged lefties everywhere would have gone into meltdown. Quote: Polly Toynbee opposes a triple-lock increase to the state pension, but also says the current state pension is inadequate (The pension triple-lock is an insult to the UK’s young people, 1 July). She says the old are stealing the future of the young, but fails to point out that the young will themselves one day be old and want a good pension. She tallies up what UK pensioners receive, but fails to mention that they, like everyone else, pay income tax. Polly also ignores our comparators in Europe, for whom the pension entitlement as a percentage of pre-retirement average earnings is as follows: 82% for Spain, 75% in France, 51% in Germany, and 29% for the UK (OECD, 2017). Hardly a picture of UK pensioners living in the lap of luxury.
www.theguardian.com/money/2021/jul/07/picking-on-pensioners-wont-help-the-young |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 27, 2023 17:43:05 GMT
So glad I don't read the silly cow.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 27, 2023 17:43:30 GMT
Yup. It’s lefties demonising old people . It’s self hating revengeful middle class lefties getting back at themselves . Finding some kind of salvation by hurting their own generation .
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2023 17:55:02 GMT
Mainly because the wealthy old pensioners vote Tory LOL, Labour are handing out leaflets to the boat people, who are the next generation of Labour voters.
Keep them coming >>
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Post by Bentley on Jan 27, 2023 17:58:32 GMT
Mainly because the wealthy old pensioners vote Tory LOL, Labour are handing out leaflets to the boat people, who are the next generation of Labour voters. Keep them coming >> Indeed. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 27, 2023 18:04:00 GMT
I’ll say it again. These middle class lefties would stop people buying rubber dinghies because rich people buy yachts.
Toynbee is a bitter old cow who knows how to push the politics of envy buttons .
Anyone under 50 who wants to scrap the state pension needs to give their head a shake .
It would take quite a few years to implement. All of the old people that they hate would already have it .
It would come just in time to apply to them .
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Post by om15 on Jan 27, 2023 18:04:20 GMT
She is just playing the game, she knows that if she churns out infantile leftie shite then the Guardian will pay her loads of money, good for her. She is on to a good thing.
The Guardian is only fit to wipe bottoms with, and those who quote on here (ye ken who ye are) immediately render their point invalid and risible.
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Post by borchester on Jan 27, 2023 18:26:55 GMT
Why the Guardian let Posy Simmonds go and kept Polly Toynbee on I will never understand.. Wendy and George Weber would never have tried to steal the oldies pensions. They may have been lefties, but they were too decent to try and sensible enough to realise that it would just increase the Tory vote
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 18:41:58 GMT
Yup. It’s lefties demonising old people . It’s self hating revengeful middle class lefties getting back at themselves . Finding some kind of salvation by hurting their own generation . If spouting bollocks were an olympic sport, you'd be a medal contender. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2023 18:44:13 GMT
Yup. It’s lefties demonising old people . It’s self hating revengeful middle class lefties getting back at themselves . Finding some kind of salvation by hurting their own generation . If spouting bollocks were an olympic sport, you'd be a medal contender. ....says the Gold medal winner lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 18:44:32 GMT
The Guardian is only fit to wipe bottoms with, and those who quote on here (ye ken who ye are) immediately render their point invalid and risible. Funny that. Most intelligent people think exactly the same about the Daily Mail, with far greater justification. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 27, 2023 18:44:50 GMT
Yup. It’s lefties demonising old people . It’s self hating revengeful middle class lefties getting back at themselves . Finding some kind of salvation by hurting their own generation . If spouting bollocks were an olympic sport, you'd be a medal contender. Here’s one ^^ At least the young self haters harm themselves . The old ones like you are social poison. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 18:51:13 GMT
If spouting bollocks were an olympic sport, you'd be a medal contender. Here’s one ^^ At least the young self haters harm themselves . The old ones like you are social poison. Says the fairground cod psychologist spouting shite again. Some bollocks about how I must hate myself because I call out the me, me, me generation who are typically ten to twenty years older than me anyway. You are about as credible as mystic Meg, and your psychological prognoses about as valid as a turd in a sandwich |
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Post by Equivocal on Jan 27, 2023 18:52:03 GMT
So glad I don't read the silly cow. I just did. 500 words detailing why I should be deprived of my state pension, then a request for a bloody donation!! |
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