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Post by zanygame on Apr 6, 2023 20:32:22 GMT
Very little, we recycle don't you? Or the selfish arseholes who put thousands of lives in jeopardy for the materials for the millions of ICE cars, that then go on to poison people as well. Total bollocks...You keep harping on about the same bullshit but never ever produce any data or figures to support your claims. Are you really claiming diesel and petrol fumes cause no harm. Really? I mean just how far underground is your head. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 6, 2023 20:36:58 GMT
So you have no idea. That's what I thought. Well I know that it will be vastly slower than refueling an equivalent jet - the question is exactly how much slower. Yep. But how much slower amounts to does it matter. You think a business man flies from London to Birmingham, leaves the plane, travels to their meeting, meets, travels back to go home in : 30 minutes 60 minutes 120 minutes? |
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Post by Toreador on Apr 6, 2023 21:13:20 GMT
If they're EC drivers do they switch off, bet your life they do because they're frightened they won't have enough juice to get to work, do the shopping or even get home. :@ You don't need to. When you stop the car you stop using energy. That's technology for you. But with only 250 miles between charges I'm sure all the hundreds of people you know who travel from Watford to Glasgow every day constantly have range anxiety. Sigh. You missed my meaning by miles. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 6, 2023 21:28:11 GMT
LOL - you are going to have to do better than that. A chart produced by an organisation lobbying for EV's..  I admire your brass though.. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 6, 2023 21:29:19 GMT
You don't need to. When you stop the car you stop using energy. That's technology for you. But with only 250 miles between charges I'm sure all the hundreds of people you know who travel from Watford to Glasgow every day constantly have range anxiety. Sigh. You missed my meaning by miles. There wasn't one. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 6, 2023 21:29:34 GMT
Well I know that it will be vastly slower than refueling an equivalent jet - the question is exactly how much slower. Yep. But how much slower amounts to does it matter. You think a business man flies from London to Birmingham, leaves the plane, travels to their meeting, meets, travels back to go home in : 30 minutes 60 minutes 120 minutes? So it's only use is as a private jet - it's an expensive toy and of no consequence in the field of public transport. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 6, 2023 21:31:16 GMT
LOL - you are going to have to do better than that. A chart produced by an organisation lobbying for EV's.. I admire your brass though.. Your vested interests versus mine |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 6, 2023 21:33:01 GMT
Yep. But how much slower amounts to does it matter. You think a business man flies from London to Birmingham, leaves the plane, travels to their meeting, meets, travels back to go home in : 30 minutes 60 minutes 120 minutes? So it's only use is as a private jet - it's an expensive toy and of no consequence in the field of public transport. Yes, but who claimed otherwise. A range rover makes poor public transport, but that doesn't make it no good. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 6, 2023 21:38:57 GMT
LOL - you are going to have to do better than that. A chart produced by an organisation lobbying for EV's.. I admire your brass though.. Your vested interests versus mine Well I'm not sure what vested interest the University of Munich has - but it's pretty clear what vested interest T&E has - they even brag about it on their website.. "T&E’s campaigning led to the European Parliament and Member States agreeing to end the sales of new combustion engine cars and vans by 2035" |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 6, 2023 21:46:05 GMT
So it's only use is as a private jet - it's an expensive toy and of no consequence in the field of public transport. Yes, but who claimed otherwise. A range rover makes poor public transport, but that doesn't make it no good. Well there are plenty of companies around the globe making toys for rich people - what matters though is real progress for mass transportation. And at the moment there is no commercially viable EV aircraft. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 6, 2023 21:47:07 GMT
Your vested interests versus mine Well I'm not sure what vested interest the University of Munich has - but it's pretty clear what vested interest T&E has - they even brag about it on their website.. "T&E’s campaigning led to the European Parliament and Member States agreeing to end the sales of new combustion engine cars and vans by 2035"The IFO are not a university. “Shaping the Economic Debate”: The ifo Institute wants to help shape the economic policy debate in Germany and Europe. We can do this because we combine excellent research with economic policy relevance. Our research findings provide policymakers and business leaders with a basis for making informed decisions. We prepare economic findings in such a way that the media and the public can understand and classify current economic and political events. The people at the ifo Institute, its supporters, and its committees make it possible to fulfill our mission. Our close cooperation with Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität (LMU) in Munich is an important basis for our success. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 6, 2023 21:47:49 GMT
Yes, but who claimed otherwise. A range rover makes poor public transport, but that doesn't make it no good. Well there are plenty of companies around the globe making toys for rich people - what matters though is real progress for mass transportation. And at the moment there is no commercially viable EV aircraft. Not yet, but its a step. Sorry you are being left behind. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 6, 2023 21:54:32 GMT
Well I'm not sure what vested interest the University of Munich has - but it's pretty clear what vested interest T&E has - they even brag about it on their website.. "T&E’s campaigning led to the European Parliament and Member States agreeing to end the sales of new combustion engine cars and vans by 2035"The IFO are not a university. They are connected with the Economics department - there is a link at the bottom of their web page that takes you straight there. Anyway - why do you believe they have a vested interest in rubbishing EV's? |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 6, 2023 21:58:09 GMT
Well there are plenty of companies around the globe making toys for rich people - what matters though is real progress for mass transportation. And at the moment there is no commercially viable EV aircraft. Not yet, but its a step. Sorry you are being left behind. Left behind? - I'm in the reality - you are away in the clouds. There is no current (or foreseeable) battery technology that is more efficient than the technology we are using today. The future for aviation is e-fuels - just as the EU have now accepted for much of road transport. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 6, 2023 22:02:32 GMT
The IFO are not a university. They are connected with the Economics department - there is a link at the bottom of their web page that takes you straight there. Anyway - why do you believe they have a vested interest in rubbishing EV's? They state they have links. They are not Munich University Who knows. They are about economics and we all know there is a cost to going green. |
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