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Post by buccaneer on Jan 26, 2023 10:47:02 GMT
JD, you don't seem to understand, if an independent Scotland fails to pay it's legally binding debt to the UK, then Scotland's credit rating will be 'junk' or CCC. And if a newly independent SNP government couldn't access credit, then within six months of independence the UN would be flying in food parcels, and I imagine the SNP faithful would ensure We Jimmy McSturgeon was gently swinging from a gibbet as they pleaded for help from the UK. Of course, it works like applying for credit, if you have a poor credit score then you will be deemed a 'risk' to lend money.
Debt interest charges will be £64.4bn. Using the population method, Scotland's share of the debt would be £132bn. This will exceed 80 per cent of Scotland's GDP. The White Paper argues that the Scottish Government will not take legal ownership of this debt.
Her beloved EU wouldn't touch them with a barge pole being in debt to the tune of £132bn, and trying to wriggle out of paying the debt.
No one takes on bad debtors.
Only the EU would, not only to spite the UK but to snare little Scotland like it did Greece and force decades worth of austerity onto it. You never know, Brussels might again go dipping into private banking accounts like they did in Cyprus to ensure wee bonny Scotland pays any 'rescue package' back. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 26, 2023 11:13:02 GMT
Of course, it works like applying for credit, if you have a poor credit score then you will be deemed a 'risk' to lend money.
Debt interest charges will be £64.4bn. Using the population method, Scotland's share of the debt would be £132bn. This will exceed 80 per cent of Scotland's GDP. The White Paper argues that the Scottish Government will not take legal ownership of this debt.
Her beloved EU wouldn't touch them with a barge pole being in debt to the tune of £132bn, and trying to wriggle out of paying the debt.
No one takes on bad debtors.
Only the EU would, not only to spite the UK but to snare little Scotland like it did Greece and force decades worth of austerity onto it. You never know, Brussels might again go dipping into private banking accounts like they did in Cyprus to ensure wee bonny Scotland pays any 'rescue package' back. Good point, Scotland would be very useful to the EU, giving it leverage of the UK, I don't think the EU are done with punishing the UK yet.
Unfortunately Sturgeons loathing of England has made her firm ally for the EU, they certainly don't want her for her stunning good looks and charm, that's for sure.
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Post by thomas on Jan 26, 2023 20:10:45 GMT
So I asked out of pure curiosity about an era Roman Propaganda suggests was an era of citizen equality across a huge empire. So are you saying the roman empire thousands of years ago , in terms of citizenship equality , was more democratic than the english empire in 1801? You see john this is my very point.
The english lords in 1801 held 40 % of the land , but got 74 % representation.
The english nation had 7 million of 14 million inhabitants of these islands , but despite the majority being disenfranchised in terms of voting , got 76 % of the represenation.
Scotland ireland england and wales were all equally disenfranchised i nterms of voting of course , with england electorate being 172 000 out of 7 million , while Irelands for example had 160 000 out of 5 half million alone.Yet again england was overrepresented in westminster for no clear apparent reason.
So if roman citizens under whatever franchise they were represented were equal in all parts of the empire at the senate , then clearly it was far more democratic than england empire , hence of course why so many british citizens/ subjects fought for independence.
Good point.
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Post by om15 on Jan 26, 2023 20:47:13 GMT
Tommo, every laborious and convoluted point that you attempt to make overlooks the fact that is is the Scots themselves who wish to remain in the Union. Delving into obscure historical events won't change that fact.
You might wish to present a case of independence to your country men/women/others, merely insulting Westminster and the English doesn't seem to be getting you over the line.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 26, 2023 21:52:40 GMT
So I asked out of pure curiosity about an era Roman Propaganda suggests was an era of citizen equality across a huge empire. So are you saying the roman empire thousands of years ago , in terms of citizenship equality , was more democratic than the english empire in 1801? You see john this is my very point.
The english lords in 1801 held 40 % of the land , but got 74 % representation.
The english nation had 7 million of 14 million inhabitants of these islands , but despite the majority being disenfranchised in terms of voting , got 76 % of the represenation.
Scotland ireland england and wales were all equally disenfranchised i nterms of voting of course , with england electorate being 172 000 out of 7 million , while Irelands for example had 160 000 out of 5 half million alone.Yet again england was overrepresented in westminster for no clear apparent reason.
So if roman citizens under whatever franchise they were represented were equal in all parts of the empire at the senate , then clearly it was far more democratic than england empire , hence of course why so many british citizens/ subjects fought for independence.
Good point.
Deadly seriously… I do not know if they were, but they were quite firm on insisting that a citizen was a citizen regardless of where they were situated. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2023 9:30:01 GMT
So are you saying the roman empire thousands of years ago , in terms of citizenship equality , was more democratic than the english empire in 1801? You see john this is my very point.
The english lords in 1801 held 40 % of the land , but got 74 % representation.
The english nation had 7 million of 14 million inhabitants of these islands , but despite the majority being disenfranchised in terms of voting , got 76 % of the represenation.
Scotland ireland england and wales were all equally disenfranchised i nterms of voting of course , with england electorate being 172 000 out of 7 million , while Irelands for example had 160 000 out of 5 half million alone.Yet again england was overrepresented in westminster for no clear apparent reason.
So if roman citizens under whatever franchise they were represented were equal in all parts of the empire at the senate , then clearly it was far more democratic than england empire , hence of course why so many british citizens/ subjects fought for independence.
Good point.
Deadly seriously… I do not know if they were, but they were quite firm on insisting that a citizen was a citizen regardless of where they were situated. pity the british empire didnt do that in terms of citizen equality and one person one vote , while England overrepresented itself....... |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 27, 2023 9:51:36 GMT
Well Sturgeon's plot to divide Scotland and England even further has spectacularly backfired, and in fact it has had the total opposite effect.
The people of Scotland now realise why the UK government had to step in and block her lunacy gender bill..
Isla Bryson
Inside notorious Scottish prison where trans double rapist is being held after move from women's jail: Isla Bryson will share wing with gangland killer, murderers and two male sex attackers who both want to change their gender
Rapist Bryson, 31, was moved from Cornton Vale to HMP Edinburgh yesterday
Sex offender has woken up in male jail housing killers, gangsters and rapists
Sturgeon is a very dangerous person, and the people of Scotland, and the UK should demand she is removed for the safety of ever woman in the Country.
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