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Post by Vinny on Jan 10, 2023 12:47:30 GMT
Not exactly the party of civil liberties.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 10, 2023 14:37:54 GMT
Not exactly the party of civil liberties. We have an unelected dictatorship in the UK and Starmer supports it and will carry out their orders, much like Biden does in the US. The cunt is just a puppet of the deep state. This is why he is bringing in transgender laws as well. No one asked for them. These things come from other puppets who you see taking cases to the ECHR and out demonstrating for the deep state in a rent-a-crowd scam. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 11, 2023 11:52:42 GMT
Back when Norwich Union were called Norwich Union, not AVIVA, their insurance risk assessors did a rather entertaining report on the nations health. It made it to a Radio 4 Thursday night Documentary slot before being quietly buried.
This was long before Blair & Brown started to exterminate the smoker
They found that the group in which I sit, the overweight non smokers, were by their lifestyle going to shorten their lives by about five years and their main demands in the NHS would be for diabetes, hip and knee replacements.
By far and away the biggest burden would be the fit fad brigade. By being the fittest body in the nursing home they would outlive everyone and spend over twenty years in dementia-ridden cabbagehood, a physically fit vegetable with hardly any working brain left, costing countless thousands to be spoon fed etc.
The smokers were to be worshipped. Their unhealthy lifestyle ensured a death so premature few would ever cash in the state pensions they had been forced to pay into, and the level of tax levied on their choice of execution tool was do heavy that the costs of treating not just smokers for diseases caused by smoking, but also the costs of treating any non smokers for those diseases were covered MANY times over by the tax paid by the smokers on their packets of 20
And what did Blair and Brown do ?
Attack the cash cow and destroy their source of revenue
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Post by patman post on Jan 11, 2023 13:39:43 GMT
Smoking costs society £17bn – £5bn more than previously estimated
The latest headlines for Tobacco Duty statistics are:
• receipts for the current financial year have generally been slightly lower, with a provisional year-to-date total of £6,156 million compared to £6,274 million in the same period in the previous financial year
• total tobacco receipts for the last complete financial year, 2021 to 2022, were £10,278 million, which is £313 million (3%) higher than the previous financial year
• the increase in receipts between the financial year ending 2021 and the financial year ending 2022 is in part due to the duty rate increase in October 2021
• cigarette receipts comprise the largest percentage of tobacco receipts, though this proportion has decreased over the previous 10 financial years
• hand rolling tobacco (HRT) receipts have gradually risen to comprise 23% of total tobacco receipts in the previous financial year, ending 2022, from 9.3% of total tobacco receipts in the same period 10 years ago
I guess smokers pay their money, and the rest of us have to judge which claims appear more likely to be true...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2023 14:08:42 GMT
Not exactly the party of civil liberties. We have an unelected dictatorship in the UK and Starmer supports it and will carry out their orders, much like Biden does in the US. The cunt is just a puppet of the deep state. This is why he is bringing in transgender laws as well. No one asked for them. These things come from other puppets who you see taking cases to the ECHR and out demonstrating for the deep state in a rent-a-crowd scam. It's hard to believe the NuLabour party is even credible today. I guarantee nothing good will come out of the other end of a Labour term.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 11, 2023 15:19:46 GMT
Smoking costs society £17bn – £5bn more than previously estimated
The latest headlines for Tobacco Duty statistics are:
• receipts for the current financial year have generally been slightly lower, with a provisional year-to-date total of £6,156 million compared to £6,274 million in the same period in the previous financial year
• total tobacco receipts for the last complete financial year, 2021 to 2022, were £10,278 million, which is £313 million (3%) higher than the previous financial year
• the increase in receipts between the financial year ending 2021 and the financial year ending 2022 is in part due to the duty rate increase in October 2021
• cigarette receipts comprise the largest percentage of tobacco receipts, though this proportion has decreased over the previous 10 financial years
• hand rolling tobacco (HRT) receipts have gradually risen to comprise 23% of total tobacco receipts in the previous financial year, ending 2022, from 9.3% of total tobacco receipts in the same period 10 years ago
I guess smokers pay their money, and the rest of us have to judge which claims appear more likely to be true...
People have the right to choose. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 11, 2023 15:22:17 GMT
We have an unelected dictatorship in the UK and Starmer supports it and will carry out their orders, much like Biden does in the US. The cunt is just a puppet of the deep state. This is why he is bringing in transgender laws as well. No one asked for them. These things come from other puppets who you see taking cases to the ECHR and out demonstrating for the deep state in a rent-a-crowd scam. It's hard to believe the NuLabour party is even credible today. I guarantee nothing good will come out of the other end of a Labour term.
The man does not have any commercial sense in the least. He's full of slogans. |
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Post by patman post on Jan 11, 2023 15:59:26 GMT
Smoking costs society £17bn – £5bn more than previously estimated
The latest headlines for Tobacco Duty statistics are:
• receipts for the current financial year have generally been slightly lower, with a provisional year-to-date total of £6,156 million compared to £6,274 million in the same period in the previous financial year
• total tobacco receipts for the last complete financial year, 2021 to 2022, were £10,278 million, which is £313 million (3%) higher than the previous financial year
• the increase in receipts between the financial year ending 2021 and the financial year ending 2022 is in part due to the duty rate increase in October 2021
• cigarette receipts comprise the largest percentage of tobacco receipts, though this proportion has decreased over the previous 10 financial years
• hand rolling tobacco (HRT) receipts have gradually risen to comprise 23% of total tobacco receipts in the previous financial year, ending 2022, from 9.3% of total tobacco receipts in the same period 10 years ago
I guess smokers pay their money, and the rest of us have to judge which claims appear more likely to be true...
People have the right to choose. Irrespective of the object, subject, topic, etc?
I doubt you've thought that through...
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 11, 2023 16:23:43 GMT
People have the right to choose. Irrespective of the object, subject, topic, etc?
I doubt you've thought that through...
I think vinny is right. People over the age of majority should have the right to choose what to do and how to behave. Once they destroy smoking they’ll come after vaping and use the same passive smoking bullshit you just watch. But I know it will be bullshit then. I worked alongside a man who created a machine to target steroids at the premature infant lung. I know how it works and I know how efficient it is. And the vaping machine is pretty much the same tech. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 11, 2023 18:39:51 GMT
Smoking costs society £17bn – £5bn more than previously estimated
The latest headlines for Tobacco Duty statistics are:
• receipts for the current financial year have generally been slightly lower, with a provisional year-to-date total of £6,156 million compared to £6,274 million in the same period in the previous financial year
• total tobacco receipts for the last complete financial year, 2021 to 2022, were £10,278 million, which is £313 million (3%) higher than the previous financial year
• the increase in receipts between the financial year ending 2021 and the financial year ending 2022 is in part due to the duty rate increase in October 2021
• cigarette receipts comprise the largest percentage of tobacco receipts, though this proportion has decreased over the previous 10 financial years
• hand rolling tobacco (HRT) receipts have gradually risen to comprise 23% of total tobacco receipts in the previous financial year, ending 2022, from 9.3% of total tobacco receipts in the same period 10 years ago
I guess smokers pay their money, and the rest of us have to judge which claims appear more likely to be true...
Well a claim by an anti-tobacco lobby group is only ever going to say one thing..  |
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Post by patman post on Jan 11, 2023 19:40:59 GMT
And claims by the tobacco industry and its addicts are going to say another.
Smoking harms smokers and others and costs the whole community.
Ban it, totally…
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2023 20:08:19 GMT
And claims by the tobacco industry and its addicts are going to say another. Smoking harms smokers and others and costs the whole community. Ban it, totally… On the other hand, the tax take from puffers seems to be about £10 billion a year. I'm sure that's not a huge amount, and it could be the NHS would save money treating the effects of the poisons and carcinogens on our bodies. Speaking as a non smoker, of course, it is easy to say to ban it totally. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 11, 2023 20:50:28 GMT
And claims by the tobacco industry and its addicts are going to say another. Smoking harms smokers and others and costs the whole community. Ban it, totally… On the other hand, the tax take from puffers seems to be about £10 billion a year. I'm sure that's not a huge amount, and it could be the NHS would save money treating the effects of the poisons and carcinogens on our bodies. Speaking as a non smoker, of course, it is easy to say to ban it totally. The problem is this day and age mate it wouldn't stop there after their attempts at banning baccy went tits up because of the blackmarket and making the smugglers very rich they would then move on to ban something else so where would it all end? |
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Post by patman post on Jan 11, 2023 21:55:25 GMT
And claims by the tobacco industry and its addicts are going to say another. Smoking harms smokers and others and costs the whole community. Ban it, totally… On the other hand, the tax take from puffers seems to be about £10 billion a year. I'm sure that's not a huge amount, and it could be the NHS would save money treating the effects of the poisons and carcinogens on our bodies. Speaking as a non smoker, of course, it is easy to say to ban it totally. I’ve no worries if smokers inhabit their own island, away from the rest of us, and don’t drain health resources having their self-inflicted diseases treated, tobacco required palliative care paid for out of public funds, plus all the the other costs caused by smoking. Seems a no brainer, smoker or not, that tobacco use is both costly to the country and unhealthy for the public at large… |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 11, 2023 22:13:49 GMT
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