HOW MUCH DOSE PENSIONERS PERKS COST THE TAX PAYER .

You are the one who referred to benefits recipients as leeches. Now your are accepting that many of them are not after all. Thanks for the qualification. 

Had you said that in the first place and used less pejorative language I would not have come down on you so hard. And if you wish me to "cut out the shite" you need to be occupying higher ground than trying to impugn my mental health. Otherwise you risk having your foot blown off by a hypocrisy mine.

I agree, I would have thought everyone including well off pensioners agree they don't need handouts. But when there is no mechanism for 'not' accepting a handout who's to blame, the government or pensioners?

It's obscene spending £billions on illegals from the EU at a time when so many people in this country are struggling. 

I do get cold weather payments and free prescriptions. I've had two replacement knees in the past 18 months. When the pain had receded from the second op I did not renew my prescription for pain killers; the pharmacist struggled to believe that anyone would do that. TV licences are no longer free and I'm not in receipt of social care though I could claim a fair whack as a carer. I could register my cat care as a charity but I don't, it comesa out of my own pocket. Now piss of and get ready for church tomorrow, your vicar needs you and your few coppers.

I personally know several pensioners who could reasonably be described as well off and they all say they don't need or want recent handouts but they have no choice. This has been a topic of conversation, over a pint, on more than one occasion. But because some pensioners don't need help doesn't mean none of them need help and the fact is, pensioners who do need help should not be abandoned in favour of illegal migrants who are costing £billions and should not be in this country.

And now the sarcastic put downs.  And you mean See 2 who seems to think everyone is an extremist? Or perhaps the Squeezed Pimple who seems to think I'm a nazi? You are in good company.

By the way, debating in a robust manner is not a definition of an extremist. 

But if throwing about such definitions and accusations with the obviously troll-like intention to trigger a negative reaction, and to anger, was the definition of an extremist, then you yourself would be one. Fortunately it isn't. But nor is it the definition of an honest debater.

And what is the suggestion that I am behaving as if mentally damaged if not an attempt to impugn my mental health?

I never said that none of them need help. There are many that do. Nor have I suggested that those that do need help should be abandoned. So you are attacking a straw man.