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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 13:20:17 GMT
Oh the irony of inconvenient truth The inconvenient truth was See2 telling others to debate in an adult manner . Looks like another point that went over your head …again .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 13:18:42 GMT
You realise that this creates loop holes for criminals to stay ? ”We can lock up known criminals who arrive here.” ..how long for? You live in a dream world. Unfortunately there are millions of lefties who live there too. Very few in third world countries though . I wonder why? Yes of course. There is no simple solution. We can lock up known criminals until they agree to return home. Sometimes if we can get the evidence we can put them on trial here and give them appropriate sentences, though they have no right to remain after that. You can continue to insult lefties while we wait patiently for your proffered workable solutions. FYI. We have rejected, build a wall around the UK and Drown them in the Channel. Sorry. My solution. Move our asylum application off shore. Make it clear that anyone arriving here directly and illegally will never be given asylum.
Have an exception for clear cases.
Place all illegal migrants into camps with basic services with the right to return home or to a British asylum application centre at any time (Thus making them not criminals)
I am adding this to every post from now to stop the stupid claims that I want Africa to move in.
You are not creating a solution at all . You creating a loop hole. That’s why I said it . So you would lock a criminal up for life if they refused to return home ? Really? Once again you posted “ Make it clear that anyone arriving here directly and illegally will never be given asylum.“ I repeat, I’ve posted that many times but have never seen you post it before today. Who are ‘ we’? You and TTL? Who wanted to build a wall around the UK and drown them in the channel? Looks like you have made up lies again .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 13:08:28 GMT
Iirc Thatcher was keen on private pensions because ( amongst other things) she know that the state pension would be problematic in the future . Is it a motivation or demotivating to introduce a policy where your private pensions contributions might reduce or completely stop your future state pension?
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 13:05:13 GMT
An offer to manage 'pooled resources' always turns into a scam in which the 'managed resources' somehow go missing Yep. If you don't save enough for your pension you should be left to starve. Bring back the Victorians I say. Why do you make up this shit ? Where did he say that?
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 13:04:13 GMT
The more you earn , the more state pension you get . Add the private pension that you contributed to instead of spending . The result is hard working people receive better pensions and easier lives . I can understand life’s losers being envious of people who are not life’s losers . It’s inevitable that they will try to take other peoples money . We should have separated state pension contributions separate to health care contributions. That would have protected those who paid more in while not hiding the growing cost of health care. My dad paid loads into his state pension, but I suspect the care he needed in the last 10 years of his life ate all that up and more. I’m not sure that seperate pension and health contributions would have had the result that your Dad would have contributed more towards his health care . Im not sure that health care is solely funded by NI contributions either.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 13:01:28 GMT
The more you earn , the more state pension you get . Add the private pension that you contributed to instead of spending . The result is hard working people receive better pensions and easier lives . I can understand life’s losers being envious of people who are not life’s losers . It’s inevitable that they will try to take other peoples money . An offer to manage 'pooled resources' always turns into a scam in which the 'managed resources' somehow go missing Indeed. NI contributions have been sold in the same way was an endowment policy( regarding pensions ). The more you put in the more you receive. There have been seperate NI pension contributions over the years that you could opt in or opt out ( I can’t for the life of me remember the names ). So would the people who want to ‘ means test ‘ the pension contribute to an endowment scheme where you final payout would be reduced if you were considered’ rich’ on the day you received it? No matter how much you contributed ? Not only that but the people who contributed less than you would automatically receive more? The idea of means testing pensions is a farce constructed by and for the politics of envy.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 12:26:03 GMT
The more you earn , the more state pension you get . Add the private pension that you contributed to instead of spending . The result is hard working people receive better pensions and easier lives . I can understand life’s losers being envious of people who are not life’s losers . It’s inevitable that they will try to take other peoples money .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 12:15:29 GMT
If the government lacks imagination at this point then it’s unlikely they will gain it at any point . They will spend the whole term trying to justify their mistakes while making more .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 12:09:29 GMT
There is a research scientist, a doctor i forget his name, i will find out, that researched near death experiences, applying scientific methods, from thirty years ago. He started in southampton, then moved to the usa as a cardiac specialist etc well versed in research. He says there is life after death. Like Plato in his book the Republic, centuries ago, that documented a near death experience. The internet is full of them if you look, there are fake ones, but you can tell trhe difference by the quality of the person, their authenticity. In my mind the power of denial is almost too strong, that evidence that does not fit your world view is almost unbreakable, no matter what. That no matter how solid the evidence, that denial kicks in, or can it be something else?, like a limited iq. How can near death be denied, its there, its not hooey. its not. One could say that in your mind ,the power of delusion is almost too strong . I had a dream that a dragon visited me last night . If I really believe it then it must true right ? And You are in denial if you deny it …..right ? Same principle.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 12:05:38 GMT
Christ, what is it with you bleeding heart lefties.There are legal channels in which anyone can apply for asylum. Paying a smuggler to get you across the channel is not one of them. Anyone who crosses the channel in a dingy is 'literally' a criminal. Quit it with the Rightist lies, grow up and try to debate in an adult manner. Yes there are legal channels in which one can apply for for asylum, but what better way for the asylum seeker to apply than from within the UK? There are also natural ways for people to escape death, starvation and serious abuse by becoming asylum seekers and getting out of their country as quickly as possible. Oh the irony 😁
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 12:04:48 GMT
We have courts overriding the deportation of convicted violent criminals who are here illegally. It's a problem throughout the western world made possible in the UK by the two-tier justice system and lefty human rights lawyers. Elsewhere it's EU nonsense. There was a madman who threatened to come to the UK to murder Farage. A human right's lawyer was literally and confidently arguing for this madman's entry into the UK, like it was an everyday occurrence.
There is a difference between deporting and freedom. You cannot deport someone who faces torture or death on their return because civilised countries don't allow torture or death without conviction. We can lock up known criminals who arrive here. You realise that this creates loop holes for criminals to stay ? ”We can lock up known criminals who arrive here.” ..how long for? You live in a dream world. Unfortunately there are millions of lefties who live there too. Very few in third world countries though . I wonder why?
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 11:58:14 GMT
My solution. Move our asylum application off shore. Make it clear that anyone arriving here directly and illegally will never be given asylum. Have an exception for clear cases. Place all illegal migrants into camps with basic services with the right to return home or to a British asylum application centre at any time (Thus making them not criminals) I am adding this to every post from now to stop the stupid claims that I want Africa to move in. I’ve made that point( in bold) many times . Never seen you post it .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 11:54:56 GMT
Indeed. “ A government should be able to enact the wishes of the electorate.” Leftie “so if the electorate wants to eat babies the government should allow it ?” jeez 😁 And if the people want to break international law the government should comply? Fact is a sovereign government can decide to not comply with an internationally agreed law, but they have to be aware that there are consequences. There are consequences of complying too. There are consequences of using hyperbole too. Which was my point . Which went over your head …
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Post by Bentley on Nov 23, 2024 0:53:38 GMT
So if the Russian people wanted to annexe Ukraine they should do so because that's the will of the people? 🤔 Yet another post that flew over andria's head. Indeed. “ A government should be able to enact the wishes of the electorate.” Leftie “so if the electorate wants to eat babies the government should allow it ?” jeez 😁
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Post by Bentley on Nov 22, 2024 21:21:17 GMT
No need to be a sore loser zany . You are just another TTL . The only difference is that you can spell. Zany does still struggle with his contractions a lot of time. I'm not sure why I was mentioned, though. I usually just leave Zany to fail on his own accord and have very little interest in him. He insisted on using a strawman to make an argument and he was caught out . He didnt even have the grace to admit it ..so I guess he was just being a little bitch . Zany likes to move the goalposts when he’s losing . It didn’t work .
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