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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 20:31:45 GMT
Labour came out from the start with identity politics , politics of envy, two tier justice ,net zero nuttiness , farmer shafting and a big fuck off tax and spend programme.
I can’t imagine why a lot of people would not like or trust them .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 20:18:17 GMT
No one knows physics totally . Can you explain that in a bit more detail? Why? No one knows physics totally because physics isn’t totally known . Is that enough detail?
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 20:15:50 GMT
Two million people ( and rising) is a lot. If the lefties want to go into denial mood and tell us this is Russian bots , dark leg end bollocks or refuse to accept that it is a significant political barometer then good . They don’t need to be convinced.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 20:08:50 GMT
Care to show anything that promoted Brexit also promised over a million migrants a year? - it's a totally different issue. In all fairness you were just dumb arses who thought Brexit would stop immigration and they tricked you. Remainer bollocks . No one thought Brexit would stop immigration . It was supposed to result in immigration control. It was due to the hoards of East Europeans coming into the country . All been talked about hundreds of times and it seems it still hasn’t sunk into remainers heads .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 20:01:18 GMT
Indeed . It’s likely that sciences such as physics will never be totally by humans . That , of course , doesn’t make it magic . We live in a world of delusion , colours, sounds and taste are merely a construct of our brains. That’s not a good foundation for humans to understand reality . Quite a few people do understand physics and mathematics. John Napier for example. No one knows physics totally .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 18:20:49 GMT
I can't remember such a dishonest fanatical hate campaign waged against any opposition political party EVER. I put it mostly down to the rise in the Rightist clowns desires for power. Perhaps triggered by the memories of the success enjoyed by New Labour which had hard line Tories turning the arse of their trousers brown, and leading to many lies and exaggerations following the International Financial Meltdown. I suggest you go and have a lie down. He’ll only dream up more waffle.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 15:07:32 GMT
Indeed. Walking to the post box with your postal vote is far nearer to manning the barricades than using an online petition…ffs 😁 If you think that's all voting in local or general elections requires, I guess you don't bother... I don’t think , I know. If you think there is anything more to voting in local and general elections then you are doing it wrong.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 14:52:31 GMT
Does clicking on a website carry the same weight as a physical pro or anti demonstration? And is tapping on a keyboard — while caught up in playground style herd-reaction on social media rather than taking the time to vote by post or in person — giving a genuine picture when the only active choice is In Favour? It took real action to get rid of May, Johnson and Truss. Is shallow pretendy-politics really going to work...? Indeed. Walking to the post box with your postal vote is far nearer to manning the barricades than using an online petition…ffs 😁
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 14:48:23 GMT
I don’t deny anything because there is nothing to deny . Other peoples delusions , fantasies and wishful thinking are their own . Not mine . My dragon says hello 😁 Speaking for myself and my own experience, there are things that cannot be explained that are beyond human interference, whether that be some godly entity or just beyond human comprehension is another matter. Indeed . It’s likely that sciences such as physics will never be totally by humans . That , of course , doesn’t make it magic . We live in a world of delusion , colours, sounds and taste are merely a construct of our brains. That’s not a good foundation for humans to understand reality .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 14:40:13 GMT
It was a mistake only for the lefty virtual signallers Suck it up and join the rest of us who got out of an old boys club. Brexit wasn't about left and right. This has been explained to you previously... Lefties tended to favour remaining ( except far lefties) and right wingers tended to favour leaving . Hence the lefties accusing leavers of being racist/ xenophobic, little Englanders . This probably has been explained to you previously.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 14:36:36 GMT
You see the thing is Andrew, the masses were given a taste of genuine democracy, everything since has been the old guard trying to roll back the clock, where they controlled all things, they are losing the battle, people want real democracy and the attitude of they can eat cake, is getting rather tiresome for most of them. Although they believe they could polarise the British electorate, just like the yanks, it is failing rather badly. I agree with you about the disillusionment. It's hard to see where that ends though. It could slow down the rush to wokery , equality of outcome and hatred of white people . Hopefully even slowing down net zero enough to stop it destroying our economy . A lot depends on a Trump success and a general and acknowledged failure of left wing politics .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 14:24:02 GMT
Leavers certainly didn’t ignore the constant whining of remainers in whatever form they wanted to whine . Also everyone knows that a petition will not result in another general election just as any poll that shows a high percentage of people wanting to rejoin the EU will not in itself result in another referendum. I don’t think you have a point at all . What you have is Whataboutery. I actually agree with you, other than the last two sentences. I've no idea why you added them on other than to have a dig? 🤷♂️ I think both were valid points .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2024 11:25:33 GMT
LOL! But not so the "Peoples Vote"? Which was totally absurd given that the real peoples vote was the referendum.
Come now, Andy - I think you're being a little disingenuous.
Well, you're correct in that I am being provocative. My point is that the people who ignored the petition previously are now trying to promote a petition. That's a valid point I'm raising, but the answers that I'm getting sound like General Melchett's pigeon. Leavers certainly didn’t ignore the constant whining of remainers in whatever form they wanted to whine . Also everyone knows that a petition will not result in another general election just as any poll that shows a high percentage of people wanting to rejoin the EU will not in itself result in another referendum. I don’t think you have a point at all . What you have is Whataboutery.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 24, 2024 22:13:24 GMT
And, in the interests of balance, perhaps you could tell us how many key policy pledges it's acceptable for a governing party to renege on? Well of course if the public don't feel that they carried out the manifesto that they said they would, then they get voted out at the next election. That's what happened to the Tories, and if that is what the people decide happens to Labour in 2029 then fair enough. My point is that the whole thing is rather childish, but it does appeal to the hyperbole posters on here. I'm surprised at you giving it much thought to be honest, Russian bots , childish , anything but a significant number of people expressing dissatisfaction with the Labour government eh?
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Post by Bentley on Nov 24, 2024 21:38:01 GMT
1.6 million 😁
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