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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 17, 2022 15:54:01 GMT
Doesn't matter who you vote for at the moment, there's a choice of sandwiches each of them containing shit. No point getting tribalistic about it. They all need a kick up the arse. It's down to who has the best joke writer for me. Starmer just made a bid for the lead with his the lady's not for turning up jibe. Other than that it's hard to tell any of them apart.
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Post by petenz on Oct 17, 2022 16:57:36 GMT
Seems to me that we're seeing just how short of skills the current crop of politicians are - on both sides. It's relatively easy to steer a country in the good times. The real test of governance comes when there's a global shitstorm. Bit like driving a car really. Any fool can drive one when it's running fine and claim they're a great driver, the real test is what they are able to do when it breaks-down. There isn't a decent mechanic amongst them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 19:04:40 GMT
Doesn't matter who you vote for at the moment, there's a choice of sandwiches each of them containing shit. No point getting tribalistic about it. They all need a kick up the arse. Yeh but folks warned others about how bad Johnson was, they continued on regardless, must enjoy it.
They thought winning at petty and divisive politics and silly jibes was the way forward, lowering themself each consecutive time they did it.
They are indeed lower than a snake's belly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 19:05:04 GMT
What is it with Tories and their bullshit. Mordaunt says she is in place of Truss as she is busy waxing a mustache and now Hunt is talking she is on the bench behind him. What kind of lie is that. If Truss can't even face the music she needs to go. Braverman is a bar higher than Truss don't care what anyone says. Braverman is better than Truss? ReallY?
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 17, 2022 19:07:41 GMT
What is it with Tories and their bullshit. Mordaunt says she is in place of Truss as she is busy waxing a mustache and now Hunt is talking she is on the bench behind him. What kind of lie is that. If Truss can't even face the music she needs to go. Braverman is a bar higher than Truss don't care what anyone says. Braverman is better than Truss? ReallY? Truss has set the bar that low Oran. It isn't an endorsement for Braverman. She is useless as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 19:09:08 GMT
Doesn't matter who you vote for at the moment, there's a choice of sandwiches each of them containing shit. No point getting tribalistic about it. They all need a kick up the arse. It's down to who has the best joke writer for me. Starmer just made a bid for the lead with his the lady's not for turning up jibe. Other than that it's hard to tell any of them apart. This ^ x1000.
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Post by Toreador on Oct 17, 2022 20:08:31 GMT
Good line from Starmer in the emergency question (which Truss has avoided - or been told to avoid) Thatcher was famously the lady not for turning Truss the lady not for turning up Ouch. ouch indeed. When the wooden keir starmer is cracking jokes about you , you know the game is well and truly over. Its like C 3PO arguing with R2D2 from star wars ffs. Penny Mordaunt sorting Starmer out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XfhpQqLy6I
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 21:58:49 GMT
No one from the Tory Party can "sort Starmer out" now, its too late, and unless Keir Starmer and the Labour Party make a colossal mess-up or blunder, then its now inevitable that Labour will form the next government.
The Tories cannot possibly claw their way back from where they are now - 36 points behind - this is actually better than the position that Tony Blair was in in the run-up to the 1997 election, when Labour won a record majority.
NOTHING is going to go in the Tories favour, we are now facing a reduction in help for the energy crisis, no tax reductions, an almost certain recession, more cuts to public services.
The Tories are doomed - and they bloody well deserve to be
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 18, 2022 6:47:13 GMT
ouch indeed. When the wooden keir starmer is cracking jokes about you , you know the game is well and truly over. Its like C 3PO arguing with R2D2 from star wars ffs. Penny Mordaunt sorting Starmer out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XfhpQqLy6IMordaunt didn't sort anything out. That "Lady is not for turning up" was a burn. Truss also didn't help her out. Mordaunt said Truss couldn't answer questions because she was attending urgent matters, five minutes later she was sat behind Hunt ripping up her mandate. Like WTF. They can't even sort out their own lies.
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Post by thomas on Oct 18, 2022 6:53:50 GMT
ouch indeed. When the wooden keir starmer is cracking jokes about you , you know the game is well and truly over. Its like C 3PO arguing with R2D2 from star wars ffs. Penny Mordaunt sorting Starmer out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XfhpQqLy6II didnt watch it mate to be honest . because neither impress me or interest me , but if the tories require an underling to come out and deal with a plank of wood like starmer then you know truss `s time is up dont you agree?
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Post by Toreador on Oct 18, 2022 8:54:56 GMT
Mordaunt didn't sort anything out. That "Lady is not for turning up" was a burn. Truss also didn't help her out. Mordaunt said Truss couldn't answer questions because she was attending urgent matters, five minutes later she was sat behind Hunt ripping up her mandate. Like WTF. They can't even sort out their own lies. Nah, Mordaunt's crack about Starmer and 15 minutes was a the real cracker but beyond that she served her purpose well, something you could see from the yowling on the opposition benches.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 18, 2022 9:29:51 GMT
I wonder why Hunt was chosen to be Chancellor?
I understand he is known to be central to the party, where Kwasi was said to be too right-wing or whatever the term is to describe free market economics. It's more the idea if find someone the rest wouldn't bitch too much about and someone who can pep talk the market.
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Post by Toreador on Oct 18, 2022 12:04:38 GMT
I wonder why Hunt was chosen to be Chancellor?
I understand he is known to be central to the party, where Kwasi was said to be too right-wing or whatever the term is to describe free market economics. It's more the idea if find someone the rest wouldn't bitch too much about and someone who can pep talk the market.
I've read, this morning, that Hunt is hinting at stopping the pension triple lock. Many pensioners vote Tory (I'm not one of them) and as if there weren't already plenty of nails in the coffin, this may be the biggest one.
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Post by dappy on Oct 18, 2022 12:12:09 GMT
To be fair though, the triple lock probably should go or at least be amended.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 18, 2022 13:55:47 GMT
I understand he is known to be central to the party, where Kwasi was said to be too right-wing or whatever the term is to describe free market economics. It's more the idea if find someone the rest wouldn't bitch too much about and someone who can pep talk the market.
I've read, this morning, that Hunt is hinting at stopping the pension triple lock. Many pensioners vote Tory (I'm not one of them) and as if there weren't already plenty of nails in the coffin, this may be the biggest one. Yes well that was a lie that they could never deliver on. The pensions are on a gamble that says the US treasury bonds will always deliver a positive return, which they do not look like they will do so they could get a margin call. That's the gamble. It's a bleak situation but the causes are many, including our economic association with the US. Many believe the dollar will crash out at some point and we tend to move according to the dollar. We are more coupled to it than most countries.
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