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Post by B0ycey on Oct 17, 2022 14:48:41 GMT
Even tory mps are reputed to have said Truss has a moutain of ambition sitting on a brain the size of a pinhead. [/div]
Wether its Truss , Starmer or some other such clown , the inevitable fact is we are witness to the last days of a dying empire , and the political fallout we are seeing is a symptom of a decline that has been going on for three quarters of a century if not more.
Sit back and enjoy the ride boycey.
[/quote] It seems it may well be the end of the union if Sturgeon gets her way in the supreme Court. I am more optimistic is the sense I don't think we can get much lower than Truss. Although given we haven't had the full impact of the cost of living crisis yet, it maybe true the empire has further to fall. *Don't know what happened to the quote function here. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 17, 2022 14:48:54 GMT
Hunt appears to have done a good job grabbing the reins and bringing back at least a semblance of competence. Just shows how staggeringly naive Truss and Kwarteng were. Hard to see how they can carry Truss through to the next election even if that was in say April next year and credibly argue she should be PM beyond it. Hunt you would have thought would have put himself in pole position for the job except that by doing such a competent job in the Treasury, he surely is needed even more there to bring a bit of stability. But who else? Sunak has the skills but too divisive, Mordaunt too inexperienced, Wallace a one trick pony, Johnson simply unimaginable and very quickly the cupboard gets bare. What a fecking mess. I would say if enough Tories say Truss must go then Sunak gets the green light as the runner up in the recent party contest. He could keep Hunt as chancellor. I think it would be a disaster for another contest. Lets be honest , where we are now , the tory party is in such a mess that replacing leader after leader is simply rearranging deckchairs on the titanic. There is no come back for them for this. Its over and pretty much everyone knows it. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 17, 2022 14:51:30 GMT
Good line from Starmer in the emergency question (which Truss has avoided - or been told to avoid) Thatcher was famously the lady not for turning Truss the lady not for turning up Ouch.  |
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Post by thomas on Oct 17, 2022 14:52:28 GMT
Even tory mps are reputed to have said Truss has a moutain of ambition sitting on a brain the size of a pinhead.
Much further to fall in my opinion. Scotland is merely one issue of many on many fronts. Labour wont steady the ship as they are one of the problems not the solution. Westmisnter is broken beyond repair .
come now boycey most of us said this about Theresa May , and then we got boris johnson.
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Post by thomas on Oct 17, 2022 14:55:15 GMT
Good line from Starmer in the emergency question (which Truss has avoided - or been told to avoid) Thatcher was famously the lady not for turning Truss the lady not for turning up Ouch. You are right to laugh Monte , but on a serious note how tenable is her position ? Surely this farce cant carry on for much longer? Even i am feeling embarressed for the woman. |
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 17, 2022 14:56:48 GMT
Don't know who is running the Tories, but Hunt has just done Sunakonomics and focusing on controlling inflation before tax cuts. Might as well get the main cheese in now. Truss out Sunak in. There are two ways to control inflation - either reduce demand which is often done by raising interest rates and the other way is to increase supply, which you need economic growth. To get economic growth you need industrial investment but by taxing corporations you take some of the money that would have been used to grow the company and you spend it on government spending. Now government spending is like any consumer spending unless it is put into investment, so as to make government services more economically efficient. If it is the latter then one would expect the tax rate to drop again due to more efficient government services. It's usually not the case because there is no real incentive to improve the efficiency of government services. Often giving a government department more money means it becomes less efficient. Actually there is much truth in your response. But this is different. Inflation seems to be the result of high gas prices in particular and a poor harvest. Don't think interest rates will help in improving our gas supply. And given inflation is taking away everyone's disposal cash, that won't improve spending. Tax cuts would also be compensated by rising mortgage rates and lower pension yields. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 17, 2022 14:58:38 GMT
You are right to laugh Monte , but on a serious note how tenable is her position ? Surely this farce cant carry on for much longer? Even i am feeling embarressed for the woman. She's just employing Theresa May's submarine tactic. Dive out of sight whenever trouble appears on the horizon. It didn't work for May and it won't work for Truss. At least the Milk Snatcher stood behind her policies. |
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 17, 2022 15:02:01 GMT
[/div][/quote] Perhaps. Just can't see anyone worse than Truss unless she is replaced by Dorries. That is how low Truss has set the bar. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 17, 2022 15:04:47 GMT
You are right to laugh Monte , but on a serious note how tenable is her position ? Surely this farce cant carry on for much longer? Even i am feeling embarressed for the woman. She's just employing Theresa May's submarine tactic. Dive out of sight whenever trouble appears on the horizon. It didn't work for May and it won't work for Truss. At least the Milk Snatcher stood behind her policies. Reminds me of an old political quote , to paraphrase ......A shiver ran down the tory front bench looking for a spine to run up. Totally agree with you on milk snatcher.
I repeat this time and again , but how does the uk reconcile itself to the fact someone of this little intellect could possibly rise to the top job in politics? Where were the checks and balances? Its incredible.
We all have our personal political views , and parties we support , but these events we are witnessing are unprecedented.
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Post by thomas on Oct 17, 2022 15:07:38 GMT
The bar is indeed lower than a snakes belly when keir starmer is a shoe in for PM. As i said , it doesnt matter now who replaces her , the tories are toast. Starmer is merely the establishment man being punted to steady the sinking ship for a few more miserable years. |
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Post by dappy on Oct 17, 2022 15:12:07 GMT
[/div][/quote] Perhaps. Just can't see anyone worse than Truss unless she is replaced by Dorries. That is how low Truss has set the bar.[/quote] Braverman would give it a good shot. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 17, 2022 15:16:36 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Oct 17, 2022 15:28:57 GMT
Doesn't matter who you vote for at the moment, there's a choice of sandwiches each of them containing shit.
No point getting tribalistic about it.
They all need a kick up the arse.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 17, 2022 15:40:47 GMT
Hunt appears to have done a good job grabbing the reins and bringing back at least a semblance of competence. Just shows how staggeringly naive Truss and Kwarteng were. Hard to see how they can carry Truss through to the next election even if that was in say April next year and credibly argue she should be PM beyond it. Hunt you would have thought would have put himself in pole position for the job except that by doing such a competent job in the Treasury, he surely is needed even more there to bring a bit of stability. But who else? Sunak has the skills but too divisive, Mordaunt too inexperienced, Wallace a one trick pony, Johnson simply unimaginable and very quickly the cupboard gets bare. What a fecking mess. I would say if enough Tories say Truss must go then Sunak gets the green light as the runner up in the recent party contest. He could keep Hunt as chancellor. I think it would be a disaster for another contest. I dont think changing the Leader is feasible - the only half-way democratic position would be to get Johnson back as a caretaker PM, otherwise we are in a situation where the People and Policies that were elected to govern in 2019 have been totally overthrown by a small cabal. Hunt seems to be the defacto PM - and nobody voted for him to be anything... Time to hear from the people. |
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 17, 2022 15:42:39 GMT
What is it with Tories and their bullshit. Mordaunt says she is in place of Truss as she is busy waxing a mustache and now Hunt is talking she is on the bench behind him. What kind of lie is that. If Truss can't even face the music she needs to go. Braverman is a bar higher than Truss don't care what anyone says.
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