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Post by sheepy on Dec 15, 2022 19:43:38 GMT
It's not two weeks since you said you would leave the board until you saw an improvemet to input. Instead you have hung around crying your eyes out when you don't get your way. There are enough people on here with sensible answers, with a better knowledge and understanding than you could ever muster. I didn't say I would leave, I said I would choose more carefully who I bothered with. Which I am now doing. At least you finally admit you are out of your depth which shows some signs of intelligence, so as you are not an expert on politics or economics, you must have other talents.
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 15, 2022 21:06:45 GMT
Yes you wanted the money of an expanding population but not the expanding population. Just as you wanted a nice place of your own but not for others. I'm never sure whether you just play at debate on here. I think so, but I'm sort of intrigued how much of what you say you is playing and how much just ill thought through wishful thinking. LOL - nobody got any money out of expanding the population. Mass immigration led to a higher GDP just because you expanded the economy - what it didn't do was lead to higher growth so that GDP per capita remained the same - hence adding 10 million people to the population benefitted nobody. Yes, the pensioners did. We need(ed) to import working age people to help pay for the pensioners, as we have too many old people on the take, and not enough young people to work for them.
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Post by Toreador on Dec 15, 2022 21:17:15 GMT
LOL - nobody got any money out of expanding the population. Mass immigration led to a higher GDP just because you expanded the economy - what it didn't do was lead to higher growth so that GDP per capita remained the same - hence adding 10 million people to the population benefitted nobody. Yes, the pensioners did. We need(ed) to import working age people to help pay for the pensioners, as we have too many old people on the take, and not enough young people to work for them. Ever considered that the indiginous poulation may have been higher if our own married couples weren't frightened of having to bring up kids in shitholes; I've known a number like that and a number of youngsters and older people who have moved abroad to be out of the shitholes.
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Post by see2 on Dec 15, 2022 21:37:19 GMT
Yes, the pensioners did. We need(ed) to import working age people to help pay for the pensioners, as we have too many old people on the take, and not enough young people to work for them. Ever considered that the indiginous poulation may have been higher if our own married couples weren't frightened of having to bring up kids in shitholes; I've known a number like that and a number of youngsters and older people who have moved abroad to be out of the shitholes. There are many reasons for females having fewer babies: Females are in a position to choose how many babies they have. Some choose to have none. Some choose to have babies later in life putting their professional career first. In doing so some leave it too late, some end up managing to have just one child. Some decide on two children and no more. It's not all about shitholes.
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 15, 2022 21:52:29 GMT
Yes, the pensioners did. We need(ed) to import working age people to help pay for the pensioners, as we have too many old people on the take, and not enough young people to work for them. Ever considered that the indiginous poulation may have been higher if our own married couples weren't frightened of having to bring up kids in shitholes; I've known a number like that and a number of youngsters and older people who have moved abroad to be out of the shitholes. Do you have anything to back up this theory? 🤔
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Post by Toreador on Dec 15, 2022 21:54:45 GMT
Ever considered that the indiginous poulation may have been higher if our own married couples weren't frightened of having to bring up kids in shitholes; I've known a number like that and a number of youngsters and older people who have moved abroad to be out of the shitholes. Do you have anything to back up this theory? 🤔 I've known young couples who didn't have kids for the reasons stated and I knew a lot of people in France who went there to escape what was happening here.
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 15, 2022 21:59:18 GMT
So only anecdotal.
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 15, 2022 22:01:51 GMT
Yes, the pensioners did. We need(ed) to import working age people to help pay for the pensioners, as we have too many old people on the take, and not enough young people to work for them. What the fuck do you mean by old people on the take? How dare you say that, you absolute peice of left wing shit. There are pensioners in this county who have worked all their lives, they have paid tax and national insurance all their lives and are now frightened to put the heating on. At the same time, the government are spending £7 million a day on foreign illegals who have contributed not one thin fuckin penny to this country and have absolutely no right to be in this country. You need to wake the fuck up.
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Post by zanygame on Dec 15, 2022 22:02:29 GMT
We know 4 couples who chose not to have children, nothing to do with shit holes. Everything to do with lifestyle, skiing, travel, sport, adventure etc.
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 15, 2022 22:11:18 GMT
Yes, the pensioners did. We need(ed) to import working age people to help pay for the pensioners, as we have too many old people on the take, and not enough young people to work for them. What the fuck do you mean by old people on the take? How dare you say that, you absolute peice of left wing shit. There are pensioners in this county who have worked all their lives, they have paid tax and national insurance all their lives and are now frightened to put the heating on. At the same time, the government are spending £7 million a day on foreign illegals who have contributed not one thin fuckin penny to this country and have absolutely no right to be in this country. You need to wake the fuck up. LOL. Triggered. 🎣
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Post by sheepy on Dec 15, 2022 22:14:01 GMT
LOL - nobody got any money out of expanding the population. Mass immigration led to a higher GDP just because you expanded the economy - what it didn't do was lead to higher growth so that GDP per capita remained the same - hence adding 10 million people to the population benefitted nobody. Yes, the pensioners did. We need(ed) to import working age people to help pay for the pensioners, as we have too many old people on the take, and not enough young people to work for them. Costed on the back of what? who has done the costing per day over the years of unskilled mass immigration versus the cost of borrowing just to pay a pension? As either way you are printing and borrowing. While all those receiving a pension have paid in not counting indirect tax.
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 15, 2022 22:16:27 GMT
It was of course a mixture of skilled and unskilled that came from the EU. The fact that you have just tried to paint them as unskilled is both mischievous and disingenuous.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 15, 2022 22:17:05 GMT
LOL - nobody got any money out of expanding the population. Mass immigration led to a higher GDP just because you expanded the economy - what it didn't do was lead to higher growth so that GDP per capita remained the same - hence adding 10 million people to the population benefitted nobody. Yes, the pensioners did. We need(ed) to import working age people to help pay for the pensioners, as we have too many old people on the take, and not enough young people to work for them. Yes, but as has been pointed out (many times) that is just a ponzi scheme - simply because it makes the situation worse. The imported labour get old, so you need more imported labour, and on, and on, and on..
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Post by sheepy on Dec 15, 2022 22:20:08 GMT
Because I am not speaking about skilled immigration, so costed on what and by whom?
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Post by andrewbrown on Dec 15, 2022 22:21:19 GMT
Yes, the pensioners did. We need(ed) to import working age people to help pay for the pensioners, as we have too many old people on the take, and not enough young people to work for them. Yes, but as has been pointed out (many times) that is just a ponzi scheme - simply because it makes the situation worse. The imported labour get old, so you need more imported labour, and on, and on, and on.. Yes, you're right. We need to find a way of getting rid of some of our old people.
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