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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 20, 2022 23:59:38 GMT
So if I can perhaps float the idea of addressing the original opening post.
In Barclays back in 2006 the company imposed a behaviour code as part of its employee conduct manual that demanded team leaders desist from holding any kind of meeting on a Friday after lunch as this interfered with employees of the Jewish faith who had to get home in time to observe the sabbath. I’ve still got that off somewhere in a box file upstairs.
The same document demanded lunch time gatherings in pubs be banned as this made our teetotal employees abstaining for personal or religious reasons ‘uncomfortable’. You can guess which faith was specifically mentioned
The Welsh Office, The Department of Work and Pensions, The Export Credit Guarantee Department, the Artificial Limb Centre and the Radiological Protection Authority have ALL tried to piss on Christmas, or rather their HR fools have.
Without exception all of the above were roundly told by my, or my wife’s work colleagues, for I refer to demands said HR twats tried to impose on me or her while we were employees at those places, to shove their demands where the sun does not shine.
In my current workplace no one would be that bloody stupid, and at the Ministry of Justice where my wife currently works the Judges pay the collective bill for the Christmas Piss Up I know this because I recently drove her to it and back from it afterwards.
I’m sure some Grinch with a grudge against people having fun would absolutely love to walk roughshod over the near-Viking feeling of wanting to go and have a Christmas skinful that permeates these organisations, but I’m happy to say the overwhelming majority of employees seem to favour sticking said grinch’s head down the toilet bowl and pulling the flush.
Particularly so in the Export Credit Guarantee Dept in the early 80s but they were a bit wild.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2022 2:16:05 GMT
Don't look daft Steve answer a simple question.
When is black not black?
Dunno, how irrelevant a question But then I'm smart enough to see that whereas you bitterly false posted that all black people think the same with that broad brush 'Black people want to be called 'black people', not coloured not brown, but black.' followed by inane ranting. And now you're bitching because your stupidity was fairly pointed out. It's the Woke Church that is telling people this through its ongoing attacks on western civilisation and language. We are supposed to just conform, yet Fairsociety clearly requires the updated list of commandments which tells him when using specific words is or isn't acceptable. It is your response that demonstrates a total lack of intelligence. You not only failed to answer him, you dishonestly insulted him.
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 21, 2022 8:09:12 GMT
I don't get how this unconscious bias works? Black people want to be called 'black people', not coloured not brown, but black. Fair enough, but why is everything relating to the word 'black' is racist? Ba Ba 'black sheep', racist? blackboard, racist? black bin liners, racist? How the fuck do we know when we can use the word 'black' without being labeled a racist, if it's not the right black. Unconscious bias isn't solely concerned with what you say, it is also concerned with your actions. It's also concerned with "microaggressions" like asking people like Ngozi Fulani where she comes from. It's terrible stuff that cultural Marxists love to exploit. For example: Old betty liddle whose 70 years of age is walking down the village high street. She see's (for example) a young black hooded youth walking towards her. She crosses the road to walk on the other side because subconsciously she feels safer. Of course, her subconscious is primed for fear and safety but the cultural Marxists want Betty to ignore this and run the risk of being mugged/attacked just so she doesn't have a racist subconscious. This kind of action ruins people's lives according to Steve. lol |
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Post by see2 on Dec 21, 2022 8:41:31 GMT
I don't get how this unconscious bias works? Black people want to be called 'black people', not coloured not brown, but black. Fair enough, but why is everything relating to the word 'black' is racist? Ba Ba 'black sheep', racist? blackboard, racist? black bin liners, racist? How the fuck do we know when we can use the word 'black' without being labeled a racist, if it's not the right black. If you think about the terms 'Objective' and 'Subjective' these can help explain how subconscious bias works. I use the term Black wherever I think it is appropriate, I still refer to the blackboard even if they no longer exist, and still occasionally sing the old song 'The blackboard of my heart'. The most ridiculous move I remember reading about, was when a female in a collage canteen asked for a Black coffee the woman next in the queue reported her for being racist. I never did learn the outcome of her action, but it was at the time when all the OTT nonsense was going on. I suspect that you like myself have never been controlled by that OTT nonsense. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 21, 2022 8:53:04 GMT
I don't get how this unconscious bias works? Black people want to be called 'black people', not coloured not brown, but black. Fair enough, but why is everything relating to the word 'black' is racist? Ba Ba 'black sheep', racist? blackboard, racist? black bin liners, racist? How the fuck do we know when we can use the word 'black' without being labeled a racist, if it's not the right black. Unconscious bias isn't solely concerned with what you say, it is also concerned with your actions. It's also concerned with "microaggressions" like asking people like Ngozi Fulani where she comes from. It's terrible stuff that cultural Marxists love to exploit. For example: Old betty liddle whose 70 years of age is walking down the village high street. She see's (for example) a young black hooded youth walking towards her. She crosses the road to walk on the other side because subconsciously she feels safer. Of course, her subconscious is primed for fear and safety but the cultural Marxists want Betty to ignore this and run the risk of being mugged/attacked just so she doesn't have a racist subconscious. This kind of action ruins people's lives according to Steve. lol Subconscious bias is about feelings. The 70 year old lady was of course right to follow her feelings. I don't see any problem there, she did no harm to anyone and felt better in herself. I don't believe anyone could fault her on her actions. Now if her subconscious bias insisted upon her finding someone who would insult or attack this "young black hooded youth" that would be where subconscious bias gets it wrong. |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 21, 2022 8:56:41 GMT
Unconscious bias isn't solely concerned with what you say, it is also concerned with your actions. It's also concerned with "microaggressions" like asking people like Ngozi Fulani where she comes from. It's terrible stuff that cultural Marxists love to exploit. For example: Old betty liddle whose 70 years of age is walking down the village high street. She see's (for example) a young black hooded youth walking towards her. She crosses the road to walk on the other side because subconsciously she feels safer. Of course, her subconscious is primed for fear and safety but the cultural Marxists want Betty to ignore this and run the risk of being mugged/attacked just so she doesn't have a racist subconscious. This kind of action ruins people's lives according to Steve. lol Subconscious bias is about feelings. The 70 year old lady was of course right to follow her feelings. I don't see any problem there, she did no harm to anyone and felt better in herself. I don't believe anyone could fault her on her actions. Now if her subconscious bias insisted upon her finding someone who would insult or attack this "young black hooded youth" that would be where subconscious bias gets it wrong. The second sentence isn't about unconscious bias though. The first sentence or example I gave is exactly the kind of 'unconscious bias' that must be 'trained' out of people. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 21, 2022 9:03:32 GMT
Subconscious bias is about feelings. The 70 year old lady was of course right to follow her feelings. I don't see any problem there, she did no harm to anyone and felt better in herself. I don't believe anyone could fault her on her actions. Now if her subconscious bias insisted upon her finding someone who would insult or attack this "young black hooded youth" that would be where subconscious bias gets it wrong. The second sentence isn't about unconscious bias though. The first sentence or example I gave is exactly the kind of 'unconscious bias' that must be 'trained' out of people. It is about recognising subconscious bias, once reconised the thinking brain can deal with it. It seems that many people don't even recognise its existence. |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 21, 2022 9:07:49 GMT
The second sentence isn't about unconscious bias though. The first sentence or example I gave is exactly the kind of 'unconscious bias' that must be 'trained' out of people. It is about recognising subconscious bias, once reconised the thinking brain can deal with it. It seems that many people don't even recognise its existence. So, the old lady should have recognised her subconscious bias and dealt with it accordingly by not crossing the road. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 21, 2022 9:11:37 GMT
It is about recognising subconscious bias, once reconised the thinking brain can deal with it. It seems that many people don't even recognise its existence. So, the old lady should have recognised her subconscious bias and dealt with it accordingly by not crossing the road. Probably, she might have been better off not listening to idiots waving around pseudo science like some weapon of mass wokeism. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2022 9:24:09 GMT
Subconscious bias is about feelings. The 70 year old lady was of course right to follow her feelings. I don't see any problem there, she did no harm to anyone and felt better in herself. I don't believe anyone could fault her on her actions. Now if her subconscious bias insisted upon her finding someone who would insult or attack this "young black hooded youth" that would be where subconscious bias gets it wrong. The second sentence isn't about unconscious bias though. The first sentence or example I gave is exactly the kind of 'unconscious bias' that must be 'trained' out of people. I guess it has become another cult buzzword applied to anything whenever it's convenient. After all, I am seeing very little that is consistent, which would explain why it's totally one directional to serve their Marxist agenda.
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 21, 2022 9:46:03 GMT
Most schools have banned 'baa baa black sheep' and replaced it with another word.
Why would children have a unconscious bias, it's a nursery rhyme even was I was a child, believe me, not once did I ever think I was offending any one, not then and not now, it's ridiculous. Most of us know, and will be well aware when the word black is being used as a racial slur, but almost banning the word black in most connotations is sending out the wrong message.
The meaning behind Baa, Baa, Black Sheep
Baa Baa Black Sheep is about the medieval wool tax, imposed in the 13th Century by King Edward I. Under the new rules, a third of the cost of a sack of wool went to him, another went to the church and the last to the farmer.
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Post by see2 on Dec 21, 2022 9:46:15 GMT
It is about recognising subconscious bias, once reconised the thinking brain can deal with it. It seems that many people don't even recognise its existence. So, the old lady should have recognised her subconscious bias and dealt with it accordingly by not crossing the road. Why have you completely ignore my earlier post to you where I posted that the Lady was right to do what she did ? |
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Post by see2 on Dec 21, 2022 9:47:35 GMT
Most schools have banned 'baa baa black sheep' and replaced it with another word. Why would children have a unconscious bias, it's a nursery rhyme even was I was a child, believe me, not once did I ever think I was offending any one, not then and not now, it's ridiculous. Most of us know, and will be well aware when the word black is being used as a racial slur, but almost banning the word black in most connotations is sending out the wrong message. The meaning behind Baa, Baa, Black Sheep Baa Baa Black Sheep is about the medieval wool tax, imposed in the 13th Century by King Edward I. Under the new rules, a third of the cost of a sack of wool went to him, another went to the church and the last to the farmer. Not in dispute. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2022 9:49:54 GMT
So, the old lady should have recognised her subconscious bias and dealt with it accordingly by not crossing the road. Why have you completely ignore my earlier post to you where I posted that the Lady was right to do what she did ? I would say it's because you invented a new and irrelevant scenario to get away from the fact that you have been openly contradicting yourself. You are demanding that people recognise this so-called subconcious bias and deal with it, whilst also claiming subconcious bias instructed this old lady to do the right thing. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 21, 2022 9:52:43 GMT
Subconscious bias is about feelings. The 70 year old lady was of course right to follow her feelings. I don't see any problem there, she did no harm to anyone and felt better in herself. I don't believe anyone could fault her on her actions. Now if her subconscious bias insisted upon her finding someone who would insult or attack this "young black hooded youth" that would be where subconscious bias gets it wrong. The second sentence isn't about unconscious bias though. The first sentence or example I gave is exactly the kind of 'unconscious bias' that must be 'trained' out of people. I never suggested such thoughts "must be 'trained' out of people." and I don't believe anyone else has. It looks more like your opinion than a fact. |
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