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Post by see2 on Dec 19, 2022 23:23:07 GMT
I suspect you have yet to learn the way subconscious bias works, it works through feelings. It is part of the human system it influences and sometimes controls thoughts and actions. Such thoughts and actions are then handed over to the logical thinking part of the brain where reasons, bias, logic and logical excuses are applied. I think you will find coveting your neighbours ox works through feelings. I think you will find that the concept of unconscious bias has been weaponised before. All we need is an cod expert telling us that we have yet to learn what they pretend to know. If people fully understood the full aspect of subconscious bias there would be no dispute / debate about it. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 19, 2022 23:25:09 GMT
So does that mean you're a fan of unconscious bias'? Despite all the harm it does. Unconscious bias is a bit of a misnomer. It assumes one entire group has an unconscious bias towards another group or groups. It's another branch from the critical race theory doctrine where CRT scholars and activists believe Western or anglophone speaking nations have set their social constructs and interest up in the interests of white people. Unconscious bias is individual, it varies person to person. |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 19, 2022 23:27:18 GMT
Unconscious bias is a bit of a misnomer. It assumes one entire group has an unconscious bias towards another group or groups. It's another branch from the critical race theory doctrine where CRT scholars and activists believe Western or anglophone speaking nations have set their social constructs and interest up in the interests of white people. Unconscious bias is individual, it varies person to person. Of course. But it assumes everyone in a specific group has some amount of unconscious bias. There is only one target group this 'training' is aimed at. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 19, 2022 23:27:41 GMT
I think you will find coveting your neighbours ox works through feelings. I think you will find that the concept of unconscious bias has been weaponised before. All we need is an cod expert telling us that we have yet to learn what they pretend to know. If people fully understood the full aspect of subconscious bias there would be no dispute / debate about it. How is subconscious bias created? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 19, 2022 23:29:27 GMT
I think you will find coveting your neighbours ox works through feelings. I think you will find that the concept of unconscious bias has been weaponised before. All we need is an cod expert telling us that we have yet to learn what they pretend to know. If people fully understood the full aspect of subconscious bias there would be no dispute / debate about it. Subconscious bias is a truism. The problem is how much the concept can be weaponised and used to facilitate an agenda . The brain is a problem solver. It has a purpose . When it is seen as a sinister aspect of the human mind and is a source of shame that never ends well. |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 19, 2022 23:29:59 GMT
If people fully understood the full aspect of subconscious bias there would be no dispute / debate about it. How is subconscious bias created? It is created upon the assumption that one specific group automatically hold an unconscious bias towards another group. Real science this is not. A social science that is on the fringe of radicalism. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 20, 2022 9:46:57 GMT
Unconscious bias is individual, it varies person to person. Of course. But it assumes everyone in a specific group has some amount of unconscious bias. There is only one target group this 'training' is aimed at. Subconscious bias is learnt as we grow up, it can be learnt openly but is also learnt subliminally i.e. unknowingly learnt. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 20, 2022 9:51:25 GMT
If people fully understood the full aspect of subconscious bias there would be no dispute / debate about it. Subconscious bias is a truism. The problem is how much the concept can be weaponised and used to facilitate an agenda . The brain is a problem solver. It has a purpose . When it is seen as a sinister aspect of the human mind and is a source of shame that never ends well. I don't see it as a sinister aspect of the human mind or as a source of shame, so I don't fully understand your use of that description. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 20, 2022 14:59:11 GMT
Of course. But it assumes everyone in a specific group has some amount of unconscious bias. There is only one target group this 'training' is aimed at. Subconscious bias is learnt as we grow up, it can be learnt openly but is also learnt subliminally i.e. unknowingly learnt. We are back again to genes. Most animals recognise kin, and the levels of kinship, as an inbuilt ability and the tendency is to favour those kin in terms of aid and consideration. This aspect of an instinct is no doubt reinforced by learning but it is a genetic trait in the first instance and no amount of education or different programming from birth will eliminate it. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 20, 2022 15:53:42 GMT
Subconscious bias is a truism. The problem is how much the concept can be weaponised and used to facilitate an agenda . The brain is a problem solver. It has a purpose . When it is seen as a sinister aspect of the human mind and is a source of shame that never ends well. I don't see it as a sinister aspect of the human mind or as a source of shame, so I don't fully understand your use of that description. So why should it need to be addressed? You are intelligent enough to know that it is being associated with casual and subtle racism. You seem to be either denying this or disassociating yourself from it. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 20, 2022 15:59:17 GMT
Unconscious bias is individual, it varies person to person. Of course. But it assumes everyone in a specific group has some amount of unconscious bias. There is only one target group this 'training' is aimed at. Complete poppycock made up to defend unconscious bias as some supposed inalienable right to ruin others lives ^ Go on see if you can show us some evidence of provenance that 'it assumes everyone in a specific group has some amount of unconscious bias' |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 20, 2022 16:09:23 GMT
I don't get how this unconscious bias works?
Black people want to be called 'black people', not coloured not brown, but black.
Fair enough, but why is everything relating to the word 'black' is racist?
Ba Ba 'black sheep', racist?
blackboard, racist?
black bin liners, racist?
How the fuck do we know when we can use the word 'black' without being labeled a racist, if it's not the right black.
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Post by Steve on Dec 20, 2022 16:11:21 GMT
Broad brushism ^ Never a good look
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 20, 2022 16:16:12 GMT
Broad brushism ^ Never a good look Don't look daft Steve answer a simple question.
When is black not black?
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Post by sandypine on Dec 20, 2022 17:42:22 GMT
Broad brushism ^ Never a good look Don't look daft Steve answer a simple question.
When is black not black?
All too often. The NBPA Constitution goes to some length "The definition of "Black" is one that emphasises the common experience and determination of people of African, African-Caribbean, Middle-Eastern, Asian or Asian sub-continent origin to oppose the effects of racism and victimisation" They use this definition to discriminate as regards Full Membership and Associate membership as only full members can vote. This is the Met. Full Membership Full membership is open to all serving police officers and police staff directly employed by the MPS or the Metropolitan Police Authority who meets the criteria set out in the constitution of the Association. Associate Membership Associate membership is open to all serving police officers and police staff directly employed by a constabulary or police authority within the UK, who are not part of the Metropolitan Police Service, and police staff employed by outsourced contractors whose main role is to support the Metropolitan Police Service. It i |
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