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Post by see2 on Dec 13, 2022 12:16:22 GMT
Unconscious bias is holding the basic belief at a subconscious level, even IF NOT ACTED UPON, that non-white British are in some way inferior to White British. Yes and no I'd say the most prevalent form of unconscious bias is judging that a woman can't do a job, certainly that's the form I most often saw as a manager of managers. It does also happen with racial differences (both ways) but the training and experiences I had suggests that form of bias is more often overt. Yes, true in both cases. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 13, 2022 12:24:26 GMT
You are desperate, I was posting information not offering an opinion. You need to try harder to stay in context. tut tut, don't get Het up, now you know how easy it is to be misinterpreted. Fair comment  |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 13, 2022 12:26:44 GMT
Imagine Lady Susan Hussey said to Ngozi Fulani "are you non-white British"? Hussey would have been called racist for that statement. Can't win. Well it would have been bias unless she went up every white person and said 'are you white non-British' If the first interactions someone has with someone are driven by reacting to their colour then they are both biased and ignorant. End of. The point is, see2 made a unconscious bias statement by saying 'non-white'.
I don't no any one (well not that I know) who refers to people of colour as 'non-white British'.
Now you see2 how easy it is to make a simple remark that is taken out of context.
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Post by see2 on Dec 13, 2022 12:35:12 GMT
Well it would have been bias unless she went up every white person and said 'are you white non-British' If the first interactions someone has with someone are driven by reacting to their colour then they are both biased and ignorant. End of. The point is, see2 made a unconscious bias statement by saying 'non-white'.
I don't no any one (well not that I know) who refers to people of colour as 'non-white British'.
Now you see2 how easy it is to make a simple remark that is taken out of context.
No I didn't, but it could be taken out of context in order to insinuate that I did. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 13, 2022 12:37:29 GMT
The point is, see2 made a unconscious bias statement by saying 'non-white'.
I don't no any one (well not that I know) who refers to people of colour as 'non-white British'.
Now you see2 how easy it is to make a simple remark that is taken out of context.
No I didn't, but it could be taken out of context in order to insinuate that I did. BTW I don't think you said anything offensive, but there are those out there that would have jumped on someone who said non-white British.
It's like walking on eggshells.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 13, 2022 13:01:28 GMT
No I didn't, but it could be taken out of context in order to insinuate that I did. BTW I don't think you said anything offensive, but there are those out there that would have jumped on someone who said non-white British.
It's like walking on eggshells.
You are a racist. What has been taken out of context. How many times do you need telling. To understand racism. You first have to know what makes racism racism |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 13, 2022 13:18:08 GMT
Release the Kraken lol
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Post by see2 on Dec 13, 2022 13:34:06 GMT
BTW I don't think you said anything offensive, but there are those out there that would have jumped on someone who said non-white British.
It's like walking on eggshells.
You are a racist. What has been taken out of context. How many times do you need telling. To understand racism. You first have to know what makes racism racism So what in your opinion makes racism racism? |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Dec 15, 2022 2:16:14 GMT
Some years ago Camden Council put out a questionaire that included a section in which people were expected to tick the appropriate box. Under Black African there were two boxes ... One was titled: Congolese, and the other: Other
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2022 11:32:18 GMT
So non-British can hold an unconscious bias that the white British consider them inferior when they dont. probably explains why some people see racism everywhere. And when they do? |
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Post by borchester on Dec 17, 2022 15:32:13 GMT
So non-British can hold an unconscious bias that the white British consider them inferior when they dont. probably explains why some people see racism everywhere. And when they do? They set a charity and try to make a business out of it.
Personally I think that Ngozi Fulani has shoot herself in the foot with this one, but then again, the grievance industry does not require much in the way of intelligence
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2022 17:53:14 GMT
They set a charity and try to make a business out of it.
Personally I think that Ngozi Fulani has shoot herself in the foot with this one, but then again, the grievance industry does not require much in the way of intelligence
When they do, they unwittingly feed their subconscious bias. (Incidentally, I prefer i.e. it is just my choice, to return to the use of subconscious as apposed to Unconscious, because I do, after many years of training, professional experience, personal experience and research have come to understand much of the working of the unconscious which means it is no longer unconscious workings for me.) |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 17, 2022 18:02:23 GMT
Civil servants 'told to refer to Christmas parties as "festive celebrations" to avoid excluding different faithsCivil servants have been told to call their Christmas parties 'festive celebrations' in an attempt to avoid offending other faiths, and to promote diversity and inclusion they cannot drink alcohol at the office Christmas party, festive celebrations, if one team member is tea-total! www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11526279/Civil-servants-told-call-Christmas-parties-festive-celebrations-avoid-excluding-faiths.htmlWhy have a minority of lefties in this country become spineless minority appeasing timid weaklings who constantly walk on eggshells in case they offend some woke warrior or ethnic minority who's mission in life is to be offended. I wish I could say I look forward to the day these people grow up and find their balls. Sadly for them, I doubt it will happen. It's because they are evil. Evil people have a thing about Christians and can not stand them. Everyone else holds opinions between not fussed about them to positive, but evil people react in a strange negative sense. For example, in this country there are groups of practising Satanists who go out of their way to attack Christians. I know all of this via personal experience on a deranged forum I used to belong to. Just as good people are disgusted by evil behaviour, such as say attacking the weak and innocent, the evil ones are like mirror image, so evil is good and good is evil. It's a path that ends up in a padded cell and is highly mentally destructive. You see the same characteristic with murderers. They delight in killing the innocent little girl and the like. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 17, 2022 18:04:11 GMT
So non-British can hold an unconscious bias that the white British consider them inferior when they dont. probably explains why some people see racism everywhere. And when they do? they go grifting |
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2022 21:23:20 GMT
What does grifting have to do with having a subconscious bias? |
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