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Myth 1: Clean energy is too expensive

Especially amid a cost of living crisis, there’s a perception that ‘green’ energy is more expensive. But a recent study found that solar and wind energy are now the most affordable sources of new electricity in 82% of the world.



Last summer, the government boosted the claim that solar and wind are becoming ever more cheaper than gas, which rose in price substantially following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. The Department for Energy Security and Net Zero’s most recent projections for Britain state that solar output cost now averages £41 per megawatt hour (MWh) from new projects. For new gas power stations, the equivalent lifetime costs will be close to £114 per MWh.

Oh do give up. 

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Ditto regards helping.

Oh do give up. Malinkovitch cycles. 🤣

Am I seeing the debating equivalent of putting ones fingers in one's ears and screaming I can't hear you?

But the effect is held to be logarithmic so increases in CO2 will not result in corresponding significant rises in temperature. The questions that exist, and are often dodged, are are the temperatures we measure on land and sea accurate enough to assume a small rise in temperature to one decimal place on a Fahrenheit scale  since 19th century, why have the past  models not accurately predicted  what has transpired, why do the worldwide records not show any increase in the extreme events that have been predicted for over 30 years now, why has climate science eschewed the scientific method by ignoring any evidence that does not confirm their models?  Pertinent questions especially the last one as most counter arguments to any sceptical evidence produced tend to attack the individuals involved, or the funding they receive, or the political affiliations they have, or the consensus that exists that has never been proven yet is still referred to as a fact.

ZG, have you ever heard of the Roman warm period? It lasted from c250 BC to c400 AD, after this time temperatures cooled slightly and life went on. Then we had the medieval warm period? It lasted from roughly 900 AD to 1300 AD, a period of three or four hundred years during this time temperatures were unusually high. Then guess what happend? That's right, nothing spectacular. Temperatures cooled slightly and for a few hundred years life went on. That is until we entered what became known as the 'Little Ice Age' this was c1650 and for the next 200 years unusually low temperatures were recorded, after which, temperatures stabilised and for a couple of hundred years, life went on. Until now, we are once more in a warming cycle.

The above is a matter of fact you can easilly google it. And that's the point. Since before Roman times temperature fluctuation has been a normal part of life on planet Earth, and these cycles typically last for two or three hundred years. What's different this time is the fact that people have the 'benefit' of google and social media. Of course you may believe the Romans had too many coal fired power stations or were keen on fossil fuels, and you have every right to believe that. But tbh, I don't think you're a pillock.