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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 10:32:09 GMT
“Developing’ countries seem to be wanting ‘ climate change ‘ hand outs in one hand and ‘ reperations ‘ with the other .
How much ‘climate change’ compo is the US, India and China contributing?
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Post by ginnyg2 on Nov 26, 2024 10:32:35 GMT
And the evidence that CO2 is ruining our air is where exactly? Wait for the waffle. I'd sooner have a crumpet. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 26, 2024 12:08:45 GMT
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I have asked you before to refrain from unattributed C&P posts. Either link to the article as support for your view or make it clear that you are simply C&P other peoples views. He did mention "The Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS)" perhaps an able person such as yourself might have been able to check it out? He didn't mention anything - the Indy who he copied it from did. There is no point in a discussion forum simply C&P articles from newspapers without attempting to discuss the subject. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 26, 2024 12:12:13 GMT
I notice that Labour are not saying how much of the $300 Billion a year in foreign aid that was agreed at COP29 the UK are now signed up to paying. In 5 years time this Labour Government will be giving away more money to foreigners than they are spending in the UK. Unfortunately their Co2 refuses to stay in their country and effects our weather. Bloody foreign Co2 coming here ruining our air. So what is the point of the UK (who only produces less than 1% of global CO2) going all out for this renewable energy to cut our emissions? After all if they are going to blow in from across the Channel anyway what is the point? I think you might finally be cottoning on to the basic problem with the dash to Net Zero. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 12:16:47 GMT
Unfortunately their Co2 refuses to stay in their country and effects our weather. Bloody foreign Co2 coming here ruining our air. So what is the point of the UK (who only produces less than 1% of global CO2) going all out for this renewable energy to cut our emissions? After all if they are going to blow in from across the Channel anyway what is the point? I think you might finally be cottoning on to the basic problem with the dash to Net Zero.Which has been pointed out time after time . |
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Post by patman post on Nov 26, 2024 12:28:52 GMT
Unfortunately their Co2 refuses to stay in their country and effects our weather. Bloody foreign Co2 coming here ruining our air. So what is the point of the UK (who only produces less than 1% of global CO2) going all out for this renewable energy to cut our emissions? After all if they are going to blow in from across the Channel anyway what is the point? I think you might finally be cottoning on to the basic problem with the dash to Net Zero. I reckon it's a good selling point for both the idea of and production of green technology if the first country to industrialise is now able to be one of the leaders in cleaning up its act... |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 12:31:31 GMT
So what is the point of the UK (who only produces less than 1% of global CO2) going all out for this renewable energy to cut our emissions? After all if they are going to blow in from across the Channel anyway what is the point? I think you might finally be cottoning on to the basic problem with the dash to Net Zero. I reckon it's a good selling point for both the idea of and production of green technology if the first country to industrialise is now able to be one of the leaders in cleaning up its act... It’s not an act we need to clean up. We don’t need a ‘ good boy’ badge or be ashamed in any way for being pioneers of industrialisation. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 26, 2024 12:41:37 GMT
So what is the point of the UK (who only produces less than 1% of global CO2) going all out for this renewable energy to cut our emissions? After all if they are going to blow in from across the Channel anyway what is the point? I think you might finally be cottoning on to the basic problem with the dash to Net Zero. I reckon it's a good selling point for both the idea of and production of green technology if the first country to industrialise is now able to be one of the leaders in cleaning up its act... But we are not, all we are really doing is exporting our carbon emissions and freezing the poor as a form of atonement for industrialising the world who were only too happy to reap the rewards of that industrialisation. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 26, 2024 12:50:37 GMT
I notice that Labour are not saying how much of the $300 Billion a year in foreign aid that was agreed at COP29 the UK are now signed up to paying. In 5 years time this Labour Government will be giving away more money to foreigners than they are spending in the UK. Unfortunately their Co2 refuses to stay in their country and effects our weather. Bloody foreign Co2 coming here ruining our air. And there is not a thing you can do about either, but hey ho sell us another heat pump. |
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Post by patman post on Nov 26, 2024 12:51:25 GMT
I reckon it's a good selling point for both the idea of and production of green technology if the first country to industrialise is now able to be one of the leaders in cleaning up its act... It’s not an act we need to clean up. We don’t need a ‘ good boy’ badge or be ashamed in any way for being pioneers of industrialisation. Disagree the first point — although admittedly the UK is ahead of many.
Agree your second point. But there's nothing wrong in the UK demonstrating (and benefiting from and marketing) how it is able to devise cleaner, greener processes and technologies...
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Post by patman post on Nov 26, 2024 12:56:04 GMT
I reckon it's a good selling point for both the idea of and production of green technology if the first country to industrialise is now able to be one of the leaders in cleaning up its act... But we are not, all we are really doing is exporting our carbon emissions and freezing the poor as a form of atonement for industrialising the world who were only too happy to reap the rewards of that industrialisation. That's a very jaundiced view. Agreed that although the UK has much further to go, it is, for instance, among the leaders in the production of renewable energy... |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 12:56:57 GMT
It’s not an act we need to clean up. We don’t need a ‘ good boy’ badge or be ashamed in any way for being pioneers of industrialisation. Disagree the first point — although admittedly the UK is ahead of many.
Agree your second point. But there's nothing wrong in the UK demonstrating (and benefiting from and marketing) how it is able to devise cleaner, greener processes and technologies...
Why should we clean up the act of being industrialisation pioneers ? There is nothing wrong in the UK introducing green energy at a pace that suits the UK and not a headlong rush . Benefitting from is debatable and marketing is nonsense . We don’t make the product , China does . China is one of the world’s highest CO2 producers . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 26, 2024 12:57:33 GMT
That's a very jaundiced view. Agreed that although the UK has much further to go, it is, for instance, among the leaders in the production of renewable energy... Which is why the UK enjoys the most expensive electricity in the world. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 26, 2024 13:03:19 GMT
So what is the point of the UK (who only produces less than 1% of global CO2) going all out for this renewable energy to cut our emissions? After all if they are going to blow in from across the Channel anyway what is the point? I think you might finally be cottoning on to the basic problem with the dash to Net Zero. I reckon it's a good selling point for both the idea of and production of green technology if the first country to industrialise is now able to be one of the leaders in cleaning up its act... Nah, that doesn't work I'm afraid. That method has been tried and tested. The UK played its part in slavery, as every man and his dog are only too happy to remind us. Though it isn't much of a selling point today when we're self-flagellating ourselves over this, and taking little comfort in Britain's leadership role to abolish slavery. It still pales into insignificance. Nah, let the US, China or India take the lead on this before we all start living in caves. Otherwise pissing in the wind springs to mind. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 26, 2024 13:13:13 GMT
I reckon it's a good selling point for both the idea of and production of green technology if the first country to industrialise is now able to be one of the leaders in cleaning up its act... Nah, that doesn't work I'm afraid. That method has been tried and tested. The UK played its part in slavery, as every man and his dog are only too happy to remind us. Though it isn't much of a selling point today when we're self-flagellating ourselves over this, and taking little comfort in Britain's leadership role to abolish slavery. It still pales into insignificance. Nah, let the US, China or India take the lead on this before we all start living in caves. Otherwise pissing in the wind springs to mind. Yes it is a no win situation. Lead the way in ending slavery and everyone looks to what one did beforehand with much hyperbole, lead the way in cleaner energy and everyone looks to what one did before with much hyperbole, lead the way in industrialising and it was a selfish act, lead the way in democracy, law and government and the only issue that arises is colonialism. |
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