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Post by see2 on Jan 3, 2023 16:36:21 GMT
Remember I know many Remnants who are not honest. Based on opinion polls during the lead-up, Remnants were cock-a-hoop that they looked like winning.....then came the result.  These were the ones who thought that most leave voters had popped their clogs...LOL And they would over-turn the will of the people in the last GE. Talk about bloody deluded. Still they are good for a laugh and fuck all else. The last election, another one of your hiding places, you have so many. Mind you your righty nonsense is to the front AGAIN, insult and denigrate an immature righty trying to be the 'big I am' very Farage like |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 3, 2023 16:47:11 GMT
These were the ones who thought that most leave voters had popped their clogs...LOL And they would over-turn the will of the people in the last GE. Talk about bloody deluded. Still they are good for a laugh and fuck all else. The last election, another one of your hiding places, you have so many. Mind you your righty nonsense is to the front AGAIN, insult and denigrate an immature righty trying to be the 'big I am' very Farage like How is the last GE not relevant ? Iirc the only party that promised another referendum failed miserably and Johnsonparty won with an overwhelming majority. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 3, 2023 18:51:46 GMT
The last election, another one of your hiding places, you have so many. Mind you your righty nonsense is to the front AGAIN, insult and denigrate an immature righty trying to be the 'big I am' very Farage like Iirc the only party that promised another referendum failed miserably and Johnsonparty won with an overwhelming majority. He aint even worth bothering with mate. Let him cary on in his own little planet of zog with the different colour sky than the rest of humanity. |
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Post by sandypine on Jan 3, 2023 19:37:22 GMT
The establishment were/are, pro EU. In an attempt to frighten a Eurosceptic electorate Cameron's government resorted to blatant lies. Just prior to the referendum Prime minister Cameron said if we voted to leave the EU the government may not be able to pay old age pensions, that was a direct threat to an anti EU demographic. And a lie. Chancellor Osborne said if we voted to leave the EU he would have to hold an emergency budget in which income tax and VAT would rise by as much as 3%. Another lie. Mark Carney the govenor of the Bank of England said leaving the EU would almost immediately be disastrous for the UK economy. He later had to appear before a parliamentary select committee to explain why his predictions of economic disaster were so wrong. "may not", is not a lie. "an emergency budget". He could not know how good or bad Brexit could be. Mark Carney, offering his opinion. Who's to say these weren't honest concerns? After all No Leaver that I'm aware of would have forecast the mess we are in with the EU today. Back in 2016 it was a case of just leave and everything will be blue skies and plain sailing. There were many concerns as regards plain sailing, what was not expected was that there would be a concerted campaign to shred the sails, jam the rudder, detach the spinnaker and un-splice the main brace as well as throw the charts overboard and destroy the chronometer and the compass. These things make for difficult plain sailing. I know it is not easy for people to help to make a success of something they do not believe in but the nature of democracy means you have to try and you should not be counterproductive. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 3, 2023 20:02:33 GMT
The last election, another one of your hiding places, you have so many. Mind you your righty nonsense is to the front AGAIN, insult and denigrate an immature righty trying to be the 'big I am' very Farage like How is the last GE not relevant ? Iirc the only party that promised another referendum failed miserably and Johnsonparty won with an overwhelming majority. It was a general election based on politics, not on any single issue. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 3, 2023 20:04:19 GMT
How is the last GE not relevant ?Iirc the only party that promised another referendum failed miserably and Johnsonparty won with an overwhelming majority. He aint even worth bothering with mate. Let him cary on in his own little planet of zog with the different colour sky than the rest of humanity. Indulging in Righty crap as usual ^^ |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 3, 2023 20:06:18 GMT
How is the last GE not relevant ? Iirc the only party that promised another referendum failed miserably and Johnsonparty won with an overwhelming majority. It was a general election based on politics, not on any single issue. They were pretty much the main issues . Voting for Lib Dem would effectively be voting to undo the work of Brexit so far and have another referendum. You do realise that the EU issue is a political one?..the activities associated with the governance of a country or area, especially the debate between parties having power |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 3, 2023 20:10:16 GMT
He aint even worth bothering with mate. Let him cary on in his own little planet of zog with the different colour sky than the rest of humanity. Indulging in Righty crap as usual ^^ It must be very lonely on your lickle planet. What colour is your sky today? |
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Post by see2 on Jan 3, 2023 20:20:31 GMT
"may not", is not a lie. "an emergency budget". He could not know how good or bad Brexit could be. Mark Carney, offering his opinion. Who's to say these weren't honest concerns? After all No Leaver that I'm aware of would have forecast the mess we are in with the EU today. Back in 2016 it was a case of just leave and everything will be blue skies and plain sailing. There were many concerns as regards plain sailing, what was not expected was that there would be a concerted campaign to shred the sails, jam the rudder, detach the spinnaker and un-splice the main brace as well as throw the charts overboard and destroy the chronometer and the compass. These things make for difficult plain sailing. I know it is not easy for people to help to make a success of something they do not believe in but the nature of democracy means you have to try and you should not be counterproductive. None of those, even if they had happened, would have been a problem for the people with the power and the authority. Those people failed because the whole issue was far more complicated than they seemed to imagine. All their whinging was just their way of distracting peoples attention from their failure to live up to their promises. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 3, 2023 20:21:18 GMT
Indulging in Righty crap as usual ^^ It must be very lonely on your lickle planet. What colour is your sky today? I was just thinking the same about you. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 3, 2023 20:24:14 GMT
It was a general election based on politics, not on any single issue. They were pretty much the main issues . Voting for Lib Dem would effectively be voting to undo the work of Brexit so far and have another referendum. You do realise that the EU issue is a political one?..the activities associated with the governance of a country or area, especially the debate between parties having power The referendum was the political one. I don't doubt that Corbyn had more effect on the General Election than Brexit. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 3, 2023 20:25:49 GMT
It must be very lonely on your lickle planet. What colour is your sky today? I was just thinking the same about you. Yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnn. I have far better things todo than try and educate pork. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 3, 2023 20:30:32 GMT
They were pretty much the main issues . Voting for Lib Dem would effectively be voting to undo the work of Brexit so far and have another referendum. You do realise that the EU issue is a political one?..the activities associated with the governance of a country or area, especially the debate between parties having power The referendum was the political one. I don't doubt that Corbyn had more effect on the General Election than Brexit. The narrative of that GE was far more about Brexit than Corbyn. Corbyn didn't help himself by sitting on the fence though. Losing the election did for Corbyn more than Corbyn did for the election The electorate ignored the party of a second referendum and voted in spades for the party of a possible hard Brexit . |
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Post by see2 on Jan 3, 2023 20:42:01 GMT
The referendum was the political one. I don't doubt that Corbyn had more effect on the General Election than Brexit. The narrative of that GE was far more about Brexit than Corbyn. Corbyn didn't help himself by sitting on the fence though. Losing the election did for Corbyn more than Corbyn did for the election The electorate ignored the party of a second referendum and voted in spades for the party of a possible hard Brexit . The Brexit decision was taken in 2016 no one had the power or authority to take that decision away. The General Election was too general to be a vote on a single issue like Brexit. If Corbyn sat on the fence over Brexit then there was no opposition to Brexit, so it wasn't even in dispute. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 3, 2023 20:44:09 GMT
I was just thinking the same about you. Yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnn. I have far better things todo than try and educate pork. Typical Righty nonsense ^^ |
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