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Post by thomas on Nov 4, 2024 16:47:15 GMT
.....and yet back in 2020 , this labour thug was arguing people who have been assaulted should be protected by the law. Lets hope they throw the book at him , or perhaps you and your pal starmer are hoping to brush things under the carpet like nick brown? Somehow I dont think this is going away lefty. x.com/ArchRose90/status/1850622199775805843 Hmm...this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else. Simply a twitter video of Mike Amesbury , the labour thug , condemning violence and threatening behaviour. and here we have yet another labour party thug today , 
The Labour leader of Inverclyde Council has been arrested and charged in relation to domestic assault and a breach of the peace, Police Scotland has confirmed.
Stephen McCabe, the 60 year-old Inverclyde council leader has been released and will appear in court at a later date. A report will be sent to the Procurator Fiscal. However, The Herald understands the Crown has not yet received a report for this individual.
It is understood Stephen McCabe has been administratively suspended from the Labour party pending the outcome of any investigation.
www.heraldscotland.com/news/24698535.leader-inverclyde-council-charged-domestic-assault/ www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/24698680.inverclyde-council-leader-stephen-mccabe-charged-police/ |
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Post by thomas on Nov 4, 2024 16:49:48 GMT
You have to be a special kind of doofus to watch the video and not realise it was the MP who was the threat and not the bloke he laid out and punched repeatedly. aye Bentley . Pissed out his nut holding a constituent on the ground while giving him a number of digs. ...but lefty said he's a shrinking violet who felt threatened.  |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 4, 2024 17:01:00 GMT
oh dear poor Alex rip
Police Scotland have received a new allegation against former first minister Alex Salmond of a non-recent sexual assault.
Salmond died suddenly last month after having a heart attack while attending a conference in North Macedonia.
In 2020, he was cleared by a jury of 13 sexual offence charges, including attempted rape.
Alex Salmond's solicitor has declined to comment.
On Sunday, a spokesperson for Police Scotland said: “We can confirm that we have received a report of a non-recent sexual assault.
"The information is being assessed.”
The force said it could not release any more information on the matter at this time.
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Post by wapentake on Nov 4, 2024 18:50:39 GMT
are you arguing its fine for labour mps to take the law into their own hands , and commit violence ? . im arguing anyone who feels threated should take preventive action The man you refer to had his hands in his pockets when he was punched,do you regard hands in pockets threatening behaviour? |
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Post by wapentake on Nov 4, 2024 18:59:55 GMT
oh dear poor Alex rip Police Scotland have received a new allegation against former first minister Alex Salmond of a non-recent sexual assault. Salmond died suddenly last month after having a heart attack while attending a conference in North Macedonia. In 2020, he was cleared by a jury of 13 sexual offence charges, including attempted rape. Alex Salmond's solicitor has declined to comment. On Sunday, a spokesperson for Police Scotland said: “We can confirm that we have received a report of a non-recent sexual assault. "The information is being assessed.” The force said it could not release any more information on the matter at this time. Is this the whataboutery you accuse others of doing? |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 4, 2024 19:45:14 GMT
I disagree IMO there is no such thing as a two tier justice system, the CPS since 1980 have three choices , when they get the Police Case Papers they decide what happens to the alleged suspect each case is based on its merit, the strength of the evidence. They will only go to trial if they have a reasonable chance of securing a conviction the huge backlog of cases awaiting Court time is long very long some suspects can be on bail or in custody for months even up to a year The CPS have three choices, yes we will charge as we think the evidence is strong enough to go trial and try to secure a conviction, or a Caution based on the offence lower down the scale of the criminal behaviour , the suspects back ground, elderly, mental or learning difficulties etc, or if the evidence is weak no chance of securing a Conviction or not in the Public Interest to put them before a Court NFA No Further Action. When Riots broke out in the UK and alleged Asylum Seekers accommodation were attacked and Police were injured trying to stop them, or the Rioting after the dreadful murders in Southport , they fast tracked them into Court ( put other scheduled trials back ) to send a message to the Rioters stop it or this will happen to you. Here in Ireland riots have broken out for the same reason, many Irish Officers were hurt and lots of damage caused, but here the complaint is why have they not been brought to Court yet, some cases of rioting damage and Assaults on Police have not come to Court for nearly a year afterwards Handyman, you seem to have far too much faith in the official line that everything happens according to a rigid structure in law, when in practice, there are deals done under the table and pressures applied to obtain a prosecution, or lack of one, as the case may be. UK Law and Order has evolved over time far better going back in time to the 1800's , which has been adopted in other countries, there is no perfect 100% failproof system if you expect that, you are in for a long wait because Humans are not perfect and never will be |
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Post by honestjohn on Nov 4, 2024 19:54:17 GMT
Handyman, you seem to have far too much faith in the official line that everything happens according to a rigid structure in law, when in practice, there are deals done under the table and pressures applied to obtain a prosecution, or lack of one, as the case may be. UK Law and Order has evolved over time far better going back in time to the 1800's , which has been adopted in other countries, there is no perfect 100% failproof system if you expect that, you are in for a long wait because Humans are not perfect and never will beYou agree then, that a two tier system could be operated, despite your post suggesting the CPS system works without fear or favour. |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 4, 2024 19:59:24 GMT
UK Law and Order has evolved over time far better going back in time to the 1800's , which has been adopted in other countries, there is no perfect 100% failproof system if you expect that, you are in for a long wait because Humans are not perfect and never will beYou agree then, that a two tier system could be operated, despite your post suggesting the CPS system works without fear or favour. No the plain fact is that no system will ever be perfect and never will be |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 7, 2024 12:31:46 GMT
Just been reported that Labour MP Mike 'Rocky' Amesbury has this morning been charged with assault.
Another Reform MP?..
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 7, 2024 12:58:03 GMT
It may have been mentioned already, but after the attack Amesbury was seen to hold his face in his hands and say 'fuck' in realisation at what he had just done. If he is not charged with assault it will underline what many people in this country already think - we have a two tier justice system. I disagree IMO there is no such thing as a two tier justice system, the CPS since 1980 have three choices , when they get the Police Case Papers they decide what happens to the alleged suspect each case is based on its merit, the strength of the evidence. They will only go to trial if they have a reasonable chance of securing a conviction the huge backlog of cases awaiting Court time is long very long some suspects can be on bail or in custody for months even up to a year The CPS have three choices, yes we will charge as we think the evidence is strong enough to go trial and try to secure a conviction, or a Caution based on the offence lower down the scale of the criminal behaviour , the suspects back ground, elderly, mental or learning difficulties etc, or if the evidence is weak no chance of securing a Conviction or not in the Public Interest to put them before a Court NFA No Further Action. When Riots broke out in the UK and alleged Asylum Seekers accommodation were attacked and Police were injured trying to stop them, or the Rioting after the dreadful murders in Southport , they fast tracked them into Court ( put other scheduled trials back ) to send a message to the Rioters stop it or this will happen to you. Here in Ireland riots have broken out for the same reason, many Irish Officers were hurt and lots of damage caused, but here the complaint is why have they not been brought to Court yet, some cases of rioting damage and Assaults on Police have not come to Court for nearly a year afterwards The problem I have with the CPS is their habit of taking over private prosecutions they seem 'nit in the public interest' and dropping them, this removing the right of an aggrieved member of the public to seek legal redress in the absence of police support. The last one I remember was a while ago, before Blair changed the law preventing double jeopardy, and so I am unsure if their power to do this today is as effective as it was then. |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 7, 2024 14:48:18 GMT
I disagree IMO there is no such thing as a two tier justice system, the CPS since 1980 have three choices , when they get the Police Case Papers they decide what happens to the alleged suspect each case is based on its merit, the strength of the evidence. They will only go to trial if they have a reasonable chance of securing a conviction the huge backlog of cases awaiting Court time is long very long some suspects can be on bail or in custody for months even up to a year The CPS have three choices, yes we will charge as we think the evidence is strong enough to go trial and try to secure a conviction, or a Caution based on the offence lower down the scale of the criminal behaviour , the suspects back ground, elderly, mental or learning difficulties etc, or if the evidence is weak no chance of securing a Conviction or not in the Public Interest to put them before a Court NFA No Further Action. When Riots broke out in the UK and alleged Asylum Seekers accommodation were attacked and Police were injured trying to stop them, or the Rioting after the dreadful murders in Southport , they fast tracked them into Court ( put other scheduled trials back ) to send a message to the Rioters stop it or this will happen to you. Here in Ireland riots have broken out for the same reason, many Irish Officers were hurt and lots of damage caused, but here the complaint is why have they not been brought to Court yet, some cases of rioting damage and Assaults on Police have not come to Court for nearly a year afterwards The problem I have with the CPS is their habit of taking over private prosecutions they seem 'nit in the public interest' and dropping them, this removing the right of an aggrieved member of the public to seek legal redress in the absence of police support. The last one I remember was a while ago, before Blair changed the law preventing double jeopardy, and so I am unsure if their power to do this today is as effective as it was then. I disagree the CPS do not take over Private Prosecutions A private prosecution is a prosecution conducted by a private individual or entity, rather than a prosecuting authority with a statutory power to prosecute. There are a number of organisations that regularly prosecute cases before the courts of England and Wales but they do so as private individuals, using the right of any individual to bring a private prosecution. One example is the RSPCA. The right to bring private prosecutions is preserved by section 6(1) of the Prosecution of Offences Act (POA) 1985. There are, however, some limitations: the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) has power under section 6(2) POA 1985 to take over a private prosecution, in some cases, the private prosecutor must seek the consent of the Attorney General or of the DPP before the commencement of proceedings. Parliament, through the construction of section 6, has specifically allowed for private prosecutions to take place without any involvement by the CPS. The success of a private prosecution is no indication that the CPS ought to have prosecuted, precisely because Parliament has quite deliberately allowed for prosecutions to take place without CPS involvement or oversight. However, there will be instances where it is appropriate for the CPS to exercise the Director's powers under section 6(2) POA 1985, either to allow the prosecution to continue, to take over and continue the prosecution, or to bring it to an end. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 7, 2024 17:15:55 GMT
The problem I have with the CPS is their habit of taking over private prosecutions they seem 'nit in the public interest' and dropping them, this removing the right of an aggrieved member of the public to seek legal redress in the absence of police support. The last one I remember was a while ago, before Blair changed the law preventing double jeopardy, and so I am unsure if their power to do this today is as effective as it was then. I disagree the CPS do not take over Private Prosecutions A private prosecution is a prosecution conducted by a private individual or entity, rather than a prosecuting authority with a statutory power to prosecute. There are a number of organisations that regularly prosecute cases before the courts of England and Wales but they do so as private individuals, using the right of any individual to bring a private prosecution. One example is the RSPCA. The right to bring private prosecutions is preserved by section 6(1) of the Prosecution of Offences Act (POA) 1985. There are, however, some limitations: the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) has power under section 6(2) POA 1985 to take over a private prosecution, in some cases, the private prosecutor must seek the consent of the Attorney General or of the DPP before the commencement of proceedings. Parliament, through the construction of section 6, has specifically allowed for private prosecutions to take place without any involvement by the CPS. The success of a private prosecution is no indication that the CPS ought to have prosecuted, precisely because Parliament has quite deliberately allowed for prosecutions to take place without CPS involvement or oversight. However, there will be instances where it is appropriate for the CPS to exercise the Director's powers under section 6(2) POA 1985, either to allow the prosecution to continue, to take over and continue the prosecution, or to bring it to an end. They CAN, www.rahmanravelli.co.uk/expertise/private-prosecutions/articles/private-prosecutions-and-the-crown-prosecution-service/And I bloody well remember the bastards DID |
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 7, 2024 19:05:04 GMT
Assault ? Thats what you get charged with for throwing a milkshake at someone ,the MP should be charged with ABH .
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Post by Handyman on Nov 7, 2024 19:36:33 GMT
I disagree the CPS do not take over Private Prosecutions A private prosecution is a prosecution conducted by a private individual or entity, rather than a prosecuting authority with a statutory power to prosecute. There are a number of organisations that regularly prosecute cases before the courts of England and Wales but they do so as private individuals, using the right of any individual to bring a private prosecution. One example is the RSPCA. The right to bring private prosecutions is preserved by section 6(1) of the Prosecution of Offences Act (POA) 1985. There are, however, some limitations: the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) has power under section 6(2) POA 1985 to take over a private prosecution, in some cases, the private prosecutor must seek the consent of the Attorney General or of the DPP before the commencement of proceedings. Parliament, through the construction of section 6, has specifically allowed for private prosecutions to take place without any involvement by the CPS. The success of a private prosecution is no indication that the CPS ought to have prosecuted, precisely because Parliament has quite deliberately allowed for prosecutions to take place without CPS involvement or oversight. However, there will be instances where it is appropriate for the CPS to exercise the Director's powers under section 6(2) POA 1985, either to allow the prosecution to continue, to take over and continue the prosecution, or to bring it to an end. They CAN, www.rahmanravelli.co.uk/expertise/private-prosecutions/articles/private-prosecutions-and-the-crown-prosecution-service/And I bloody well remember the bastards DID As the info I downloaded state they can but only in very few circumstances with permission |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 7, 2024 20:07:31 GMT
Assault ? Thats what you get charged with for throwing a milkshake at someone ,the MP should be charged with ABH . IMO the difference between Common Assault can cover a viable verbal threat, shove or a slap, for ABH a visible bruise graze or slight cut |
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