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Post by sheepy on Oct 27, 2024 12:30:23 GMT
Except obviously nobody has a problem with genuine asylum seekers, what people don't like is being conned by renaming criminals as migrants and muddying the waters what constitutes a genuine asylum seeker. Instead of saying fuck you we don't believe in borders and anyone and everyone is welcome, it is not only dishonest but downright criminal. Do you reckon in this country there will come a time when the lot of them are thrown out, and all their little helper and dodgy solicitors and so on in the form of a real revolution? It has become clear to me pretty much all the politicians, press and academics are pretty much singing from the same book now. They have kind of constructed an intellectual house of cards, which is very delicately balanced. They are placing cards on it like man = woman and other totally ridiculous views. Can it all come crashing down, or is the brainwashing so well perfected that they have got the nation for good?
I know one thing. Farage is really not the man to lead. He has not got the brains. The best leader I thought was Lord Pearson. He was very smart, but unfortunately a bit too old. He was reliable. You could never catch him out in a debate and the other one was the late Stuart Wheeler.
I think the establishment is used to having full control over the plebs and don't like a bloody nose even if it's only occasionally, they also like thinking they have thought of every eventuality and can control the outcome, as we see with internet nudge units etc, they certainly have weak spots and are less convincing now than they probably ever have been.They are blinkered by their own power very often for one. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 27, 2024 12:31:55 GMT
Do you reckon in this country there will come a time when the lot of them are thrown out, and all their little helper and dodgy solicitors and so on in the form of a real revolution? It has become clear to me pretty much all the politicians, press and academics are pretty much singing from the same book now. They have kind of constructed an intellectual house of cards, which is very delicately balanced. They are placing cards on it like man = woman and other totally ridiculous views. Can it all come crashing down, or is the brainwashing so well perfected that they have got the nation for good?
I know one thing. Farage is really not the man to lead. He has not got the brains. The best leader I thought was Lord Pearson. He was very smart, but unfortunately a bit too old. He was reliable. You could never catch him out in a debate and the other one was the late Stuart Wheeler.
Who do you think will turn this lefty wokism around Baron? I can't see anyone at the moment. What I do see though which is encouraging is the grass roots independent media have some really good commentators amongst them. Not all, but there are one or two who really have got this business figured out properly. I think this is why the new online safety laws were passed. The fascists don't like listening to this sort of thing. Each channel tends to specialise. For example some channels do financial investigations, so they know about that. It was getting to be a kind of new open university. Many have been banned though or had their accounts attacked. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 27, 2024 12:39:13 GMT
Who do you think will turn this lefty wokism around Baron? I can't see anyone at the moment. What I do see though which is encouraging is the grass roots independent media have some really good commentators amongst them. Not all, but there are one or two who really have got this business figured out properly. I think this is why the new online safety laws were passed. The fascists don't like listening to this sort of thing. Each channel tends to specialise. For example some channels do financial investigations, so they know about that. It was getting to be a kind of new open university. Many have been banned though or had their accounts attacked. I agree Baron but they are not MP's we all have our own ideas on what needs to be done but we haven't got the clout to enforce it. Anyone who speaks out over this total madness is soon labled as hard right and are banged up for years by the thought police and lefty woke establishment.. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 27, 2024 13:18:26 GMT
I can't see anyone at the moment. What I do see though which is encouraging is the grass roots independent media have some really good commentators amongst them. Not all, but there are one or two who really have got this business figured out properly. I think this is why the new online safety laws were passed. The fascists don't like listening to this sort of thing. Each channel tends to specialise. For example some channels do financial investigations, so they know about that. It was getting to be a kind of new open university. Many have been banned though or had their accounts attacked. I agree Baron but they are not MP's we all have our own ideas on what needs to be done but we haven't got the clout to enforce it. Anyone who speaks out over this total madness is soon labled as hard right and are banged up for years by the thought police and lefty woke establishment.. Hopefully technology will provide a way to keep this going and circumvent censorship. The thing is you can't do quick change. You can't just have some loudmouth stand up and give it a load of hyperbole because this is how it is now and it is the reason it is failing. The classic attack of build a better system and then the old one will wither way is the best i think. We should not be so bothered about how shit the people are on the other side and more bothered we have our shit together. If so they can flap all they like, but the truth will get through, be proved and convince people that way. Anyway, I do my bit and try and encourage those doing a good media job and chuck in my own ideas. |
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Post by borgr0 on Oct 27, 2024 17:33:20 GMT
Which leaves the door open to anyone being born anything ‘mentally’. Being gay is having a sexual attraction to the same sex. That is a real and demonstrable . Being deluded is not . I can like sausages but I can be one. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 27, 2024 17:57:23 GMT
Which leaves the door open to anyone being born anything ‘mentally’. Being gay is having a sexual attraction to the same sex. That is a real and demonstrable . Being deluded is not . I can like sausages but I can be one.That was supposed to be “ I like sausages but I can’t be one” but I like that one better . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 29, 2024 13:43:17 GMT
I see this thread has started talking bollox. Now girls and boys, back to what is on the backboard. This is Paul Thorpe one hour ago.
He knows what is going on and is involved in the organisation of these marches and stuff. You'll notice he is an archetypal cockney from the working class. The thing is he is smart.
the comments are interesting as well.
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Post by borgr0 on Oct 29, 2024 20:44:45 GMT
After seeing Tommy Robinson's podcast with Jordan Peterson I can see why many are much more sympathetic to him, if nothing else, he's persuasive and I suspect many of the things he's saying are true. I'm not going to condemn any of those guys listed above.
I think Robinson may indeed be a bit of a martyr for the cause if anything happens to him in prison but I really hope it doesn't
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 29, 2024 23:21:58 GMT
After seeing Tommy Robinson's podcast with Jordan Peterson I can see why many are much more sympathetic to him, if nothing else, he's persuasive and I suspect many of the things he's saying are true. I'm not going to condemn any of those guys listed above. I think Robinson may indeed be a bit of a martyr for the cause if anything happens to him in prison but I really hope it doesn't Well I'm with Paul Thorpe and others of his movement more than I'm with Farage and Tice. In fact I met some of the local Luton lot a long time ago and my impression is in that town there is a strong loyalty. It's totally run down and and neglected in terms of the area, but these guys will look after you where many think now, including myself, that Farage and Tice will sell Reform voters down the river. I'm almost dead certain of this. I've seen what Farage is like for decades, and heard from those who have worked for him. What he will do is side with the government and act to pull Reform back to a position that is entirely untenable to anyone with a brain. I even saw it in the response to criticism our local paper levelled agaisnt our local Reform candidate. His reply might just as well be scripted by Hope not Hate.
Both Tice and Farage are generally stupid. Tommy Robinson might not have the best rhetoric skills, but he is a crafty man and he has outwitted the establishment so many times that he deserves to lead. A leader is the one with the biggest balls. He is very British in his culture as well. What we get with Farage is someone who is taking instruction from the Americans, just as Starmer is, Rishi, Johnson and all the prime ministers going back at least as far as WW2. The Americans though are the ones behind screwing up our country. BLM, trans, gays, women's rights, it is all stuff come from that way.
Anyway, the bottom line is the moment Tommy has going is absolutely huge. It's the working class who way outnumber the middle class and are the worst affected, and also the kind of people who would resist if push came to shove. Reform has those MPs because their lot lent their backing. How arrogant can you get if a large group back you and when you get it, you start putting them down. It is the work of a traitor for sure, and it is becoming obvious. The pattern repeats like it did with the Conservatives. All mouth, no action.
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Post by borgr0 on Oct 29, 2024 23:32:55 GMT
Well I agree about the Tommy Robinson stuff, but I won't condemn anyone whatsoever
I do think he is doing good work
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 30, 2024 12:04:26 GMT
Well I agree about the Tommy Robinson stuff, but I won't condemn anyone whatsoever I do think he is doing good work If you back Farage he will let you down. He is just that kind of person unfortunately. He will take the money and foreign influences like the US will pay him off. He stabbed his best friend Godfrey Bloom in the back. I thought Tice was a better leader and at the time he was leading I thought Reform had a chance, but now Farage has taken over and he has booted out Ben Habib, who was practically a co-founder of Reform and did a lot of the work. He is actually smart. Farage will boot out all the brains as he can't cope with any challenges. I don't like saying this, but it is true. The man is a conman. |
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Post by borgr0 on Oct 30, 2024 23:51:08 GMT
Sadly, it does seem like all the UK political parties self sabotage and everyone ends up unhappy
Ah well
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 31, 2024 9:49:16 GMT
Sadly, it does seem like all the UK political parties self sabotage and everyone ends up unhappy Ah well Take the case of David Starkey. He made one communication where he was not quite thinking, and I'm sure everyone has slipped up at least once. Instead of saying blacks he said in a moment of frustration damn blacks. Adding this one word caused his entire professional career to be destroyed by the those who never show their faces. For example, all professional contracts were terminated. Before that he was an academic publisher of history books and has spent his whole life researching history and teaching it. If a man can have his life destroyed over one word you know he has upset them badly. One of the publishers involved was Hutchinson, in case anyone wishes to boycott their books. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchinson_Heinemann.
Now I give you a known example of a positive, as in someone we can identify as truly agaisnt their agenda. For example Starkey often argues that to get our country back the equality acts must be repealed. That's a big one as it cuts directly into the core of their power. They don't like him and we can see this clearly.
So compare to Farage. He is earning approximately one million a year from his GB News contract. He is one of the highest paid of MPs in the house. When he got some trouble from his bank (Coutts) he did not lose by it, rather the chief executive of the bank was forced to resign, so from this we can clearly see a negative. He wins against the establishment and Starkey loses. What difference is there you might ask. Is Farage smarter. No, he is not. The only way you can explain all of this is Farage is their puppet and the battles he has with the system are for show to make him look like real opposition who is strong and wins against the mighty establishment, but I have never seen him put in prison or even lose out financially. You might like to ruin through the same analysis with Kate Hopkins and her being shaken down £300k over a joke on twitter. She lost her family home over that. These people do not play fairly. That guy who died in prison after attending a protest. He was probably murdered. As for Farage, well he is getting free trips over to the US and likely similar employment as what Johnson enjoyed over there as he collected £7m for talking, post being thrown out of British politics.
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