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Post by Bentley on Oct 27, 2024 9:38:21 GMT
Which leaves the door open to anyone being born anything ‘mentally’. Being gay is having a sexual attraction to the same sex. That is a real and demonstrable . Being deluded is not . I can like sausages but I can be one.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 27, 2024 9:51:26 GMT
Sorry, but just to clarify, I was thinking of Farage. Farage had a thing about the BNP and prides himself on destroying them. The National Front was really a 70s thing according to my memory. This was the time I was still at school. I think Farage was as well. Anyway, this was when the agro started. The BNP were not far anything. They were simply ahead of their time. today Jenrick calls for one million to be deported. Well back when Farage was slagging them off, the BNP were saying the only feasible thing was repatriation. I agreed with them then and still do. It was common sense. They can come here, so they can go back again. If going back is extreme then so is coming here! Farage did not destroy the BNP, he aligned with the view that the BNP were unacceptable as a pragmatic approach. This was because the BNP were easy meat for the establishment to destroy through law and through 'impromptu' but well organised and government funded counter groups, largely due to their past history and utterings which could be easily referenced, manipulated and misdirected. Farage knows that being whiter than white is the only way to win and active separation from any suspicions of 'racism' must be exorcised otherwise those links will be used as a means to destroy. There is some strong, and cogent, suspicion that the Clacton loud racist was an active plant for an 'undercover sting' which kind of tells us what ' the establishment' will get up to to counter democracy they find unacceptable. i get the idea and was aware that was what was going on, but being whiter than white effectively means playing and being restricted by your enemy's rules, as per self censorship and the like. A position of power is in fact not giving a shit what your enemy thinks of you. Sure some fools will go along with the BBC and Channel 4, but they will get led up the garden path and others will ridicule their idiocy and they will learn the hard way. This is my preferred modus operandi, and I too have a lot of experience dealing with these brainwashed morons and think I have a few tricks that will work, but never suck up to your enemy. You have to give them maximum trouble so they get overwhelmed. Remember they are weak on their own. These little shits huddle together in groups like Hope not Hate because they don't have the confidence to stand on their own two feet. Confront them one to one and they all wither into a wimp. You don't get respect from women by being a sucker either. They will go for the winner. Just make sure you win against them, and people will think cool, well done mate. You have slayed the dragon.
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Post by aristaeus on Oct 27, 2024 10:23:25 GMT
The BNP were not far anything. The BNP was literally created by a neo-Nazi, so they were certainly far something. Or are you claiming Nazism is not on the far fringes of political ideology?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 27, 2024 10:26:34 GMT
The BNP were not far anything. The BNP was literally created by a neo-Nazi, so they were certainly far something. Or are you claiming Nazism is not on the far fringes of political ideology? Of course it is: It's extreme socialism.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 27, 2024 10:38:58 GMT
Everything Far left and extreme socialism is now socially acceptable, the foreign Uni flag waving pro-palestine far left are hailed as heros, they can chant whatever antisemitic racism they want, no chance of the police arresting them or the FULL FORCE OF THE LAW ... coming down on them, if we rounded them up and stuck them on a flight to Gaza you wouldn't see their cowardly feet for dust. They are great at spouting their hatred 2,464 miles away from the conflict.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 27, 2024 10:40:43 GMT
The BNP were not far anything. The BNP was literally created by a neo-Nazi, so they were certainly far something. Or are you claiming Nazism is not on the far fringes of political ideology? Who do you mean?
My experiences with what the BNP were saying and the time when Farage was trying to destroy them was when it was run by Nick Griffin, who was a very articulate and well educated man (from Cambridge I think). What you are doing though is a theoretical projection, thinking the BNP must be like such and such because they were founded by as neo Nazi. My approach was a the complete opposite. I gathered empirical evidence as I'm from the sciences, and this is what scientists do. They measure stuff, so I measured what the average supporters were like. I chatted to a few and found they were OK. None had moustaches as far as I was aware. That comparison was only seen in the agitprop of the Daly Mail and similar so-called Right Wing press. I think the Mail thought it had competition. They must have thought, we are the kings of scary stories, and we let no man challenge our monopoly.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 27, 2024 11:28:06 GMT
The BNP was literally created by a neo-Nazi, so they were certainly far something. Or are you claiming Nazism is not on the far fringes of political ideology? Who do you mean?
My experiences with what the BNP were saying and the time when Farage was trying to destroy them was when it was run by Nick Griffin, who was a very articulate and well educated man (from Cambridge I think). What you are doing though is a theoretical projection, thinking the BNP must be like such and such because they were founded by as neo Nazi. My approach was a the complete opposite. I gathered empirical evidence as I'm from the sciences, and this is what scientists do. They measure stuff, so I measured what the average supporters were like. I chatted to a few and found they were OK. None had moustaches as far as I was aware. That comparison was only seen in the agitprop of the Daly Mail and similar so-called Right Wing press. I think the Mail thought it had competition. They must have thought, we are the kings of scary stories, and we let no man challenge our monopoly.
Indeed.
In the 70s and 80s, the BNP's manifesto wasn't much different to Labour's.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 27, 2024 11:49:05 GMT
Well some men self identify as women.... but back in the reality.... Why isn't andrew patriotic? And while men can't be women, because it's biologically impossible, they can be born 'as a woman' mentally, that's more or less what being gay is isn't it? Not really - gaydom is a preference for sex with members of the same sex. A gay man is not pretending he is a woman.
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 27, 2024 11:55:40 GMT
Nope. That's cos you don't know what it means. Here ya go again andrea..I understand perfectly...You would rather support the illegal arseholes who turn up on our shores than you do your own countrymen...FFS you even try and makeout they are not illegal... Do I? Or did you just make that up? Or is patriotism nothing to do with how you want to deal with Asylum Seekers? You decide.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 27, 2024 11:56:57 GMT
Here ya go again andrea..I understand perfectly...You would rather support the illegal arseholes who turn up on our shores than you do your own countrymen...FFS you even try and makeout they are not illegal... Do I? Or did you just make that up? Or is patriotism nothing to do with how you want to deal with Asylum Seekers? You decide. BOLLOCKS andrea you are the one who defends the fuckers..
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 27, 2024 12:02:33 GMT
Do I? Or did you just make that up? Or is patriotism nothing to do with how you want to deal with Asylum Seekers? You decide. BOLLOCKS andrea you are the one who defends the fuckers.. andrea in his desperate attempt unconvincingly tries to say illegal boat people are genuine Asylum Seekers, he knows fully well they are illegal migrants, but the dishonesty of the lefties knows no bounds, he will continue to say they are genuine Asylum Seekers even though he knows everyone on the dinghy has paid at least £10,000 per head to illegal people traffickers, this is their way of jumping the queue to gain entry to the UK, and every time this government grants them Asylum status the dinghies will keep coming.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 27, 2024 12:04:18 GMT
Here ya go again andrea..I understand perfectly...You would rather support the illegal arseholes who turn up on our shores than you do your own countrymen...FFS you even try and makeout they are not illegal... Do I? Or did you just make that up? Or is patriotism nothing to do with how you want to deal with Asylum Seekers? You decide. Except obviously nobody has a problem with genuine asylum seekers, what people don't like is being conned by renaming criminals as migrants and muddying the waters what constitutes a genuine asylum seeker. Instead of saying fuck you we don't believe in borders and anyone and everyone is welcome, it is not only dishonest but downright criminal.
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Post by aristaeus on Oct 27, 2024 12:11:28 GMT
The BNP was literally created by a neo-Nazi, so they were certainly far something. Or are you claiming Nazism is not on the far fringes of political ideology? Who do you mean?
My experiences with what the BNP were saying and the time when Farage was trying to destroy them was when it was run by Nick Griffin, who was a very articulate and well educated man (from Cambridge I think). What you are doing though is a theoretical projection, thinking the BNP must be like such and such because they were founded by as neo Nazi. My approach was a the complete opposite. I gathered empirical evidence as I'm from the sciences, and this is what scientists do. They measure stuff, so I measured what the average supporters were like. I chatted to a few and found they were OK. None had moustaches as far as I was aware. That comparison was only seen in the agitprop of the Daly Mail and similar so-called Right Wing press. I think the Mail thought it had competition. They must have thought, we are the kings of scary stories, and we let no man challenge our monopoly.
Give over. Griffin joined while the neo-Nazi Tinsdale was still leader. BNP was a whites-only party under both Tinsdale and Griffin.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 27, 2024 12:16:53 GMT
Do I? Or did you just make that up? Or is patriotism nothing to do with how you want to deal with Asylum Seekers? You decide. Except obviously nobody has a problem with genuine asylum seekers, what people don't like is being conned by renaming criminals as migrants and muddying the waters what constitutes a genuine asylum seeker. Instead of saying fuck you we don't believe in borders and anyone and everyone is welcome, it is not only dishonest but downright criminal. Do you reckon in this country there will come a time when the lot of them are thrown out, and all their little helper and dodgy solicitors and so on in the form of a real revolution? It has become clear to me pretty much all the politicians, press and academics are pretty much singing from the same book now. They have kind of constructed an intellectual house of cards, which is very delicately balanced. They are placing cards on it like man = woman and other totally ridiculous views. Can it all come crashing down, or is the brainwashing so well perfected that they have got the nation for good?
I know one thing. Farage is really not the man to lead. He has not got the brains. The best leader I thought was Lord Pearson. He was very smart, but unfortunately a bit too old. He was reliable. You could never catch him out in a debate and the other one was the late Stuart Wheeler.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 27, 2024 12:20:20 GMT
Except obviously nobody has a problem with genuine asylum seekers, what people don't like is being conned by renaming criminals as migrants and muddying the waters what constitutes a genuine asylum seeker. Instead of saying fuck you we don't believe in borders and anyone and everyone is welcome, it is not only dishonest but downright criminal. Do you reckon in this country there will come a time when the lot of them are thrown out, and all their little helper and dodgy solicitors and so on in the form of a real revolution? It has become clear to me pretty much all the politicians, press and academics are pretty much singing from the same book now. They have kind of constructed an intellectual house of cards, which is very delicately balanced. They are placing cards on it like man = woman and other totally ridiculous views. Can it all come crashing down, or is the brainwashing so well perfected that they have got the nation for good?
I know one thing. Farage is really not the man to lead. He has not got the brains. The best leader I thought was Lord Pearson. He was very smart, but unfortunately a bit too old. He was reliable. You could never catch him out in a debate and the other one was the late Stuart Wheeler.
Who do you think will turn this lefty wokism around Baron?
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