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Post by Bentley on Oct 19, 2024 14:34:08 GMT
Thrrecus far more going on in world than YouTube videos too. If you want to get your info from YouTube and Chinese whispers then fine but so far you have provided nothing to support it other than ‘ you read the mail and I don’t ( which is a lie ) and ‘ my mates told me and they know everything “. It gets a bit tiresome after a while . The one I linked to is Wave Media. It's quite a professional and intelligent news channel from the Chinese about China. It does feature more than your average in terms of tales of woe from Uncle Sam, but the reporting itself is good and everything is referenced and explained. What I think is happening with these GB News readers is as soon as they hear a Chinese voice they think its the CCP and they are lying. They disbelieve it before even listening to what it has to say. It is their prejudice that is making them incapable of viewing evidence in an unbiased way, yet all the time claiming the source is wrong/heavily biased/brainwashing or whatever.
Anyhow I'm the kind who likes to crosscheck these reports and any others I can and I remember when I find out someone has bullshitted me. In fact if the lie was so dirty that the channel is unreliable I block it. The rest I try and listen to all sides of the argument. The Chinese certainly pick their stories to make their case, but I don't think I hardly ever come across any who lies except the ones paraded by the BBC can be a bit fishy, like the Chinese government pulled the BBC up on one occasion for using a false witness. I don't block the BBC though as one could pass that off as a mistake rather than deliberate. GB News is highly inaccurate about China. They do it by selecting interviews with those who bullshit rather than direct editorial lies.
Ok do your source that claimed F35s were falling out of the skies ( despite no evidence from Western news media ) due to lack of Chinese parts is Chinese news channel . lol. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 19, 2024 14:57:13 GMT
The one I linked to is Wave Media. It's quite a professional and intelligent news channel from the Chinese about China. It does feature more than your average in terms of tales of woe from Uncle Sam, but the reporting itself is good and everything is referenced and explained. What I think is happening with these GB News readers is as soon as they hear a Chinese voice they think its the CCP and they are lying. They disbelieve it before even listening to what it has to say. It is their prejudice that is making them incapable of viewing evidence in an unbiased way, yet all the time claiming the source is wrong/heavily biased/brainwashing or whatever.
Anyhow I'm the kind who likes to crosscheck these reports and any others I can and I remember when I find out someone has bullshitted me. In fact if the lie was so dirty that the channel is unreliable I block it. The rest I try and listen to all sides of the argument. The Chinese certainly pick their stories to make their case, but I don't think I hardly ever come across any who lies except the ones paraded by the BBC can be a bit fishy, like the Chinese government pulled the BBC up on one occasion for using a false witness. I don't block the BBC though as one could pass that off as a mistake rather than deliberate. GB News is highly inaccurate about China. They do it by selecting interviews with those who bullshit rather than direct editorial lies.
Ok do your source that claimed F35s were falling out of the skies ( despite no evidence from Western news media ) due to lack of Chinese parts is Chinese news channel . lol. Well it would be easier if you watched it, but anyway, what the source says is first they claimed they did not use Chinese parts and two self destructed, then it got out that they did use Chinese parts, as in they were lying before, so this led to a stern order from Uncle Sam to rid every Chinese part from the machine, and now we have a figure of 7 self destructing. It is claimed more went wrong after they substituted the parts than before! And yes, the fault is of the kind where it can be happily cruising along minding its own business in fair weather and every instrument saying everything is cool and then suddenly whack, the whole plane shuts down. No power would mean every instrument went blank and as there is no engine cooling (this is electrically powered) so the engine will then blow up. The pilot was saved by an ejector seat made in Blighty. Actually I've been to the very factory they are made and seen them do a demo. The firm is called Marin Baker. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 19, 2024 15:09:32 GMT
Ok do your source that claimed F35s were falling out of the skies ( despite no evidence from Western news media ) due to lack of Chinese parts is Chinese news channel . lol. Well it would be easier if you watched it, but anyway, what the source says is first they claimed they did not use Chinese parts and two self destructed, then it got out that they did use Chinese parts, as in they were lying before, so this led to a stern order from Uncle Sam to rid every Chinese part from the machine, and now we have a figure of 7 self destructing. It is claimed more went wrong after they substituted the parts than before! And yes, the fault is of the kind where it can be happily cruising along minding its own business in fair weather and every instrument saying everything is cool and then suddenly whack, the whole plane shuts down. No power would mean every instrument went blank and as there is no engine cooling (this is electrically powered) so the engine will then blow up. The pilot was saved by an ejector seat made in Blighty. Actually I've been to the very factory they are made and seen them do a demo. The firm is called Marin Baker. I can find hours of videos claiming that Chinas economy is about to tank. That their society will collapse due to lack of young people . That the Earth is flat. That Bigfoot is real. The rich are all devil worshippers Why would I want to watch Chinese propaganda bullshit when there is much more entertaining bullshit on you tube. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 19, 2024 15:19:04 GMT
Well it would be easier if you watched it, but anyway, what the source says is first they claimed they did not use Chinese parts and two self destructed, then it got out that they did use Chinese parts, as in they were lying before, so this led to a stern order from Uncle Sam to rid every Chinese part from the machine, and now we have a figure of 7 self destructing. It is claimed more went wrong after they substituted the parts than before! And yes, the fault is of the kind where it can be happily cruising along minding its own business in fair weather and every instrument saying everything is cool and then suddenly whack, the whole plane shuts down. No power would mean every instrument went blank and as there is no engine cooling (this is electrically powered) so the engine will then blow up. The pilot was saved by an ejector seat made in Blighty. Actually I've been to the very factory they are made and seen them do a demo. The firm is called Marin Baker. I can find hours of videos claiming that Chinas economy is about to tank. That their society will collapse due to lack of young people . That the Earth is flat. That Bigfoot is real. The rich are all devil worshippers Why would I want to watch Chinese propaganda bullshit when there is much more entertaining bullshit on you tube. Yes I know what you mean, but this is a channel I recommend because it is very succinct. The whole report is merely some 3m long. I do care for people's time and will not post long drawn out and inaccurate videos. I have my personal standards here. A BvL approved vid is always a goodun. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 19, 2024 15:19:56 GMT
I can find hours of videos claiming that Chinas economy is about to tank. That their society will collapse due to lack of young people . That the Earth is flat. That Bigfoot is real. The rich are all devil worshippers Why would I want to watch Chinese propaganda bullshit when there is much more entertaining bullshit on you tube. Yes I know what you mean, but this is a channel I recommend because it is very succinct. The whole report is merely some 3m long. I do care for people's time and will not post long drawn out and inaccurate videos. I have my personal standards here. A BvL approved vid is always a goodun. lol. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 19, 2024 15:28:51 GMT
Yes I know what you mean, but this is a channel I recommend because it is very succinct. The whole report is merely some 3m long. I do care for people's time and will not post long drawn out and inaccurate videos. I have my personal standards here. A BvL approved vid is always a goodun. lol. In their own words:
One thing you get to learn about China is they love their learned institutions. Anyway, it is good in the sense it gives you a feel for how the Chinese culture is. It's one of those 'made by Chinese for Chinese' type things. It takes a bit to adjust to the way they think, but you will find they do like their proof and their references and calculations. They are like polar opposites to the GB News kind of pub crowd if you know what I mean.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 19, 2024 16:26:51 GMT
In their own words:
One thing you get to learn about China is they love their learned institutions. Anyway, it is good in the sense it gives you a feel for how the Chinese culture is. It's one of those 'made by Chinese for Chinese' type things. It takes a bit to adjust to the way they think, but you will find they do like their proof and their references and calculations. They are like polar opposites to the GB News kind of pub crowd if you know what I mean.
The “ Chinese academy “ bigging up China and themselves at the same time ? No shit ! |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 19, 2024 17:17:28 GMT
Your own link admits that most of the crashes have absolutely nothing to do with the Chinese parts.. ..you need to get better sources than youtube. How absolutely stupid can you get. I expect you did not even watch it. The article references its sources. These include Uncle Sam's agents themselves. It points out that since they stopped using Chinese suppliers the number of incidence has increased. It reminds you of the Boeing 737 Max and other issues in Uncle Sam's aerospace. Doors have been known to fling off and all sorts. The Yankee worker is not what he once was. Maybe the factory is a BLM sponsor. Now you are just being silly. Take the 4 crashes in 2022 - one was from a wake turbulance issue, one crashed onto a carriers deck, one fucked up the vertical landing and one had electrical failure. The one that had electrical failure had the Chinese parts. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 19, 2024 18:06:15 GMT
In their own words:
One thing you get to learn about China is they love their learned institutions. Anyway, it is good in the sense it gives you a feel for how the Chinese culture is. It's one of those 'made by Chinese for Chinese' type things. It takes a bit to adjust to the way they think, but you will find they do like their proof and their references and calculations. They are like polar opposites to the GB News kind of pub crowd if you know what I mean.
The “ Chinese academy “ bigging up China and themselves at the same time ? No shit ! Of course. Have you ever worked for a firm that does self promotion? China is like one big firm. They play a fair game though. The thing that really pisses me off is when someone is trying to brainwash you. Academies over thee though have more the feel of a university environment. You're allowed to be a bit more free thinking as long as you love President Xi. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 19, 2024 18:12:44 GMT
The “ Chinese academy “ bigging up China and themselves at the same time ? No shit ! Of course. Have you ever worked for a firm that does self promotion? China is like one big firm. They play a fair game though. The thing that really pisses me off is when someone is trying to brainwash you. Academies over thee though have more the feel of a university environment. You're allowed to be a bit more free thinking as long as you love President Xi. Indeed and with all due respect you remind me of a person who claims ‘ you can’t get better than a quick fit fitter ‘because he saw it on a YouTube video and read it on a quick fit sponsored forum . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 19, 2024 18:40:41 GMT
Of course. Have you ever worked for a firm that does self promotion? China is like one big firm. They play a fair game though. The thing that really pisses me off is when someone is trying to brainwash you. Academies over thee though have more the feel of a university environment. You're allowed to be a bit more free thinking as long as you love President Xi. Indeed and with all due respect you remind me of a person who claims ‘ you can’t get better than a quick fit fitter ‘because he saw it on a YouTube video and read it on a quick fit sponsored forum . The alternative is listening to the world service where every tiny bit is designed by brainwashers, and they ship them in from the US all night long.
I'm not saying Wave Media is the most fantastic of things, but I just hear stories from it once in a while and balance that out with other things. I get bored of the same channel and the same message drummed in. A lot work in a loop as their brains are not that large, so it might appear interesting to start with, but as you go around the loop you really want to get the hell out of it. Maybe I should get back to my maths studying.
The videos in the op though are great. That guy is such a propeller head. You'll see - in ten years time he will be a multimillionaire owner of a EV flying firm.
Oh by the way, this guy is the guy who made the Xpengs fly.
It's a great illustration of the kind of country China is. The Chinese have been totally sold on the idea.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 19, 2024 19:59:11 GMT
Indeed and with all due respect you remind me of a person who claims ‘ you can’t get better than a quick fit fitter ‘because he saw it on a YouTube video and read it on a quick fit sponsored forum . The alternative is listening to the world service where every tiny bit is designed by brainwashers, and they ship them in from the US all night long.
I'm not saying Wave Media is the most fantastic of things, but I just hear stories from it once in a while and balance that out with other things. I get bored of the same channel and the same message drummed in. A lot work in a loop as their brains are not that large, so it might appear interesting to start with, but as you go around the loop you really want to get the hell out of it. Maybe I should get back to my maths studying.
The videos in the op though are great. That guy is such a propeller head. You'll see - in ten years time he will be a multimillionaire owner of a EV flying firm.
Oh by the way, this guy is the guy who made the Xpengs fly.
It's a great illustration of the kind of country China is. The Chinese have been totally sold on the idea.
Nope. The alternative is not to believe what you want to believe. Be sceptical. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 19, 2024 20:35:53 GMT
The alternative is listening to the world service where every tiny bit is designed by brainwashers, and they ship them in from the US all night long.
I'm not saying Wave Media is the most fantastic of things, but I just hear stories from it once in a while and balance that out with other things. I get bored of the same channel and the same message drummed in. A lot work in a loop as their brains are not that large, so it might appear interesting to start with, but as you go around the loop you really want to get the hell out of it. Maybe I should get back to my maths studying.
The videos in the op though are great. That guy is such a propeller head. You'll see - in ten years time he will be a multimillionaire owner of a EV flying firm.
Oh by the way, this guy is the guy who made the Xpengs fly.
It's a great illustration of the kind of country China is. The Chinese have been totally sold on the idea.
Nope. The alternative is not to believe what you want to believe. Be sceptical. Well I'm kind of open minded until I have independent verification. I think it is bad form to go around suspecting everyone is a liar. It depends on the circles you mix with. Like for example engineers are very down to earth and practical and never like to hype anything. Scientists are similar traditionally, as per your classic gentleman's club, but have been nobbled in some fields these days which is a shame. As for British politics though, unfortunately I think your position is the right one to take. I generally know if someone is lying to me and in this domain it is on the 'more than likely' region of the honesty spectrum. Americans can be very dishonest as well. American business especially so.
By the way, that guy who runs that mega corporation who have them ready for the market started life as a rural peasant. What an amazing guy. Some Chinese have just got genius brains, even if they are peasant farmers. I guess it is a genetic thing.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 19, 2024 20:54:25 GMT
Nope. The alternative is not to believe what you want to believe. Be sceptical. Well I'm kind of open minded until I have independent verification. I think it is bad form to go around suspecting everyone is a liar. It depends on the circles you mix with. Like for example engineers are very down to earth and practical and never like to hype anything. Scientists are similar traditionally, as per your classic gentleman's club, but have been nobbled in some fields these days which is a shame. As for British politics though, unfortunately I think your position is the right one to take. I generally know if someone is lying to me and in this domain it is on the 'more than likely' region of the honesty spectrum. Americans can be very dishonest as well. American business especially so.
By the way, that guy who runs that mega corporation who have them ready for the market started life as a rural peasant. What an amazing guy. Some Chinese have just got genius brains, even if they are peasant farmers. I guess it is a genetic thing.
You don’t seem open minded . You seem to believe everything that Chinese funded videos and CCP propaganda wants you to believe . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 19, 2024 21:07:48 GMT
Well I'm kind of open minded until I have independent verification. I think it is bad form to go around suspecting everyone is a liar. It depends on the circles you mix with. Like for example engineers are very down to earth and practical and never like to hype anything. Scientists are similar traditionally, as per your classic gentleman's club, but have been nobbled in some fields these days which is a shame. As for British politics though, unfortunately I think your position is the right one to take. I generally know if someone is lying to me and in this domain it is on the 'more than likely' region of the honesty spectrum. Americans can be very dishonest as well. American business especially so.
By the way, that guy who runs that mega corporation who have them ready for the market started life as a rural peasant. What an amazing guy. Some Chinese have just got genius brains, even if they are peasant farmers. I guess it is a genetic thing.
You don’t seem open minded . You seem to believe everything that Chinese funded videos and CCP propaganda wants you to believe . Maybe I just give the wrong impression. Some things I have verified and some not. The story of the F35 is not one I heard elsewhere, but I put it up out of interest. I welcome those who find fault in things as it helps me with my own accuracy. There's always the odd thing you believed for years but someone told it to you who was wrong. Wiki is my best guide. I'm finding it great fro biochemisty issues as it carries references to the latest science. |
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