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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:26:37 GMT
There’s nothing stopping ‘ natives’ speaking their own languages . The average Glaswegian can easily find the language of his ancestors online and learn it . From then in he refuse to speak any other language except that . However , he’s not going to , is he? oh by the way , the British have twice attempted to stop the Scottish natives speaking their native languages , in both the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries , with your countries language being forced upon Scots. Has anyone except yourselves ever stopped you brit learning and speaking British as an every day community language? I don’t care . You seem to be triggered by the fact that Brits do not tend to speak European languages because they don’t need to.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:29:32 GMT
Eh? I’m sure that ancient Brits use to have their own language too. None of that refutes the fact that Brits do not need to speak other European languages because if they did then they would . Welsh and Cornish are the native British languages , both are being spoken today. Why aren't you learning British is my question ? Why are you writing to me in a European language instead of native British from these islands ? You seem to have made up a language called British and keep asking why I haven’t learned it . Maybe you should lie down and recite some Rabbi Burns until you calm down .😁
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:29:33 GMT
My native language is Scots , and I speak it every day. As do many Glaswegians. Glasgow is also home to one of the biggest gaidhlig speaking population in scotland.So what we can do as you suggest is already happening , as it always has. The point was vinny inferred the brits aren't taught foreign languages , I corrected him , you took offence..... Whats stopping you learning British ? It’s you that seems to take offence and projecting it at me . Maybe you are annoyed because you have been reminded of the fact that Brits do not tend to speak European languages because they don’t need to . you asked a question on page 5 , about are they foreign languages , and I gave an answer you appear to take offence at when you replied "oh dear" Im not sure how else im supposed to take your reply? im not annoyed at all. If Scottish was the world's foremost language , I wouldn't spend time arguing about wee minority languages , or those funny foreign languages , on some obscure interwebby forum. I would rise above it in superiority. You meanwhile seem to be annoyed , or if thats not the right word , at pains , that others dont see the world in linguistic terms as you do. Im just shocked you dont realise English is a European language , and that for people who constantly rail about being British , you dont appear to be in any hurry to learn the language or culture.
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:30:39 GMT
oh by the way , the British have twice attempted to stop the Scottish natives speaking their native languages , in both the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries , with your countries language being forced upon Scots. Has anyone except yourselves ever stopped you brit learning and speaking British as an every day community language? I don’t care . You seem to be triggered by the fact that Brits do not tend to speak European languages because they don’t need to. ok, Im not suggesting you care , merely replying to your point about nothing stopping the natives speaking their own language.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:32:14 GMT
It’s you that seems to take offence and projecting it at me . Maybe you are annoyed because you have been reminded of the fact that Brits do not tend to speak European languages because they don’t need to . you asked a question on page 5 , about are they foreign languages , and I gave an answer you appear to take offence at when you replied "oh dear" Im not sure how else im supposed to take your reply? im not annoyed at all. If Scottish was the world's foremost language , I wouldn't spend time arguing about wee minority languages , or those funny foreign languages , on some obscure interwebby forum. I would rise above it in superiority. You meanwhile seem to be annoyed , or if thats not the right word , at pains , that others dont see the world in linguistic terms as you do. Im just shocked you dont realise English is a European language , and that for people who constantly rail about being British , you dont appear to be in any hurry to learn the language or culture. Why would I be annoyed at your annoyance ? If you want to believe English is a foreign language then go for it . However we both know that your are really annoyed because you have been been reminded of the fact that Brits do not tend to speak European languages because they don’t need to.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:33:52 GMT
I don’t care . You seem to be triggered by the fact that Brits do not tend to speak European languages because they don’t need to. ok, Im not suggesting you care , merely replying to your point about nothing stopping the natives speaking their own language. There is nothing to stop Scots speaking their ‘ native ‘ language . Nothing you posted refuted it . Have all the Scots learnt it yet?
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:36:51 GMT
Welsh and Cornish are the native British languages , both are being spoken today. Why aren't you learning British is my question ? Why are you writing to me in a European language instead of native British from these islands ? You seem to have made up a language called British and keep asking why I haven’t learned it . Maybe you should lie down and recite some Rabbi Burns until you calm down .😁 Eh? The native British language is welsh. It's only been called welsh in the modern era. In Scottish and irish , a welshman was called a bretnach , in France , they call the Celtic peoples of the north west , the descendants of those who fled the European invasion from Germany post the roman period , as the bretons , or British. British , that you now call Welsh was spoken all over what is now england. It was still being spoken in cumbria in the 12th century , and Cornwall in the 17th. I mean , the French did t invade Celtic gaul , and keep on using the name gaul for their country while introducing French as a language. Why the need to hide behind a name you have no apparent use for except as a memento of a long lost empire? Or conversely , if you worship britian and the British that much , why not learn the language and culture?
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:39:04 GMT
you asked a question on page 5 , about are they foreign languages , and I gave an answer you appear to take offence at when you replied "oh dear" Im not sure how else im supposed to take your reply? im not annoyed at all. If Scottish was the world's foremost language , I wouldn't spend time arguing about wee minority languages , or those funny foreign languages , on some obscure interwebby forum. I would rise above it in superiority. You meanwhile seem to be annoyed , or if thats not the right word , at pains , that others dont see the world in linguistic terms as you do. Im just shocked you dont realise English is a European language , and that for people who constantly rail about being British , you dont appear to be in any hurry to learn the language or culture. Why would I be annoyed at your annoyance ? If you want to believe English is a foreign language then go for it . However we both know that your are really annoyed because you have been been reminded of the fact that Brits do not tend to speak European languages because they don’t need to. English is a European language ? I know you cant speak British , but are you denying speaking a European language?
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:41:52 GMT
ok, Im not suggesting you care , merely replying to your point about nothing stopping the natives speaking their own language. There is nothing to stop Scots speaking their ‘ native ‘ language . Nothing you posted refuted it . Have all the Scots learnt it yet? of course. Im not trying to refute that Scots speak our own native languages , in fact , over on the Scottish threads , im arguing with one of your fellow brit nats in defence of them. He appears , like you , to be annoyed about people not being wholly devoted to that European language , English , and is upset about multi lingual roadsigns.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:42:54 GMT
You seem to have made up a language called British and keep asking why I haven’t learned it . Maybe you should lie down and recite some Rabbi Burns until you calm down .😁 Eh? The native British language is welsh. It's only been called welsh in the modern era. In Scottish and irish , a welshman was called a bretnach , in France , they call the Celtic peoples of the north west , the descendants of those who fled the European invasion from German post the roman period , as the bretons , or British. British , that you now call Welsh was spoken all over what is now england. It was still being spoken in cumbria in the 12th century , and Cornwall in the 17th. I mean , the French did t invade Celtic gaul , and keep on using the name gaul for their country while introducing French as a language. Why the need to hide behind a name you have no apparent use for except as a memento of a long lost empire? Or conversely , if you worship britian and the British that much , why not learn the language and culture? If you say so but that doesn’t refute the fact that there is no need to speak anything other than English in the UK ..which explains why few Brits speak other languages . As for the native Scot language.. ”Nevertheless, there is a language revival, and the number of speakers of the language under age 20 did not decrease between the 2001 and 2011 censuses.[7] In the 2022 census of Scotland, it was found that 2.5% of the Scottish population had some skills in Gaelic,[8] or 130,161 persons. Of these, 69,701 people reported speaking the language, with a further 46,404 people reporting that they understood the language, but did not speak, read, or write in it.[9]” Wiki. Looks like you need to own a bike to find another Scot that speaks the true Scot’s language if you bothered to learn it . Not many have apparently.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:45:01 GMT
Why would I be annoyed at your annoyance ? If you want to believe English is a foreign language then go for it . However we both know that your are really annoyed because you have been been reminded of the fact that Brits do not tend to speak European languages because they don’t need to. English is a European language ? I know you cant speak British , but are you denying speaking a European language? If you can’t speak British then why ask if I’ve learned it ? Yes I missed the word mainland .
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:46:56 GMT
Eh? The native British language is welsh. It's only been called welsh in the modern era. In Scottish and irish , a welshman was called a bretnach , in France , they call the Celtic peoples of the north west , the descendants of those who fled the European invasion from German post the roman period , as the bretons , or British. British , that you now call Welsh was spoken all over what is now england. It was still being spoken in cumbria in the 12th century , and Cornwall in the 17th. I mean , the French did t invade Celtic gaul , and keep on using the name gaul for their country while introducing French as a language. Why the need to hide behind a name you have no apparent use for except as a memento of a long lost empire? Or conversely , if you worship britian and the British that much , why not learn the language and culture? If you say so but that doesn’t refute the fact that there is no need to speak anything other than English in the UK ..which explains why few Brits speak other languages . As for the native Scot language.. ”Nevertheless, there is a language revival, and the number of speakers of the language under age 20 did not decrease between the 2001 and 2011 censuses.[7] In the 2022 census of Scotland, it was found that 2.5% of the Scottish population had some skills in Gaelic,[8] or 130,161 persons. Of these, 69,701 people reported speaking the language, with a further 46,404 people reporting that they understood the language, but did not speak, read, or write in it.[9]” Wiki. Looks like you need to own a bike to find another Scot that speaks the true Scot’s language if you bothered to learn it . Not many have apparently. I think you are getting rather confused bentley. You are talking about gaidhlig Scots , and im talking about germanic Scots , which the majority speak in scotland. Happy to help. you made this up didnt you benny. I havent once said you need to speak other languages in the uk , I suggested you should speak the native languages , and that it is advisory to speak other European languages as well as the English European languages. Ripley made that point too. does it? how so?
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:48:28 GMT
English is a European language ? I know you cant speak British , but are you denying speaking a European language? If you can’t speak British then why ask if I’ve learned it ? Yes I missed the word mainland . im not British. I mean , it's like asking a frenchman why they cant speak French , and the frenchman asking if you can when you aren't French. Are you British or not , and if so , why cant you speak your own native language instead of that foreign European half French part danish and German dialect.?
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:48:51 GMT
There is nothing to stop Scots speaking their ‘ native ‘ language . Nothing you posted refuted it . Have all the Scots learnt it yet? of course. Im not trying to refute that Scots speak our own native languages , in fact , over on the Scottish threads , im arguing with one of your fellow brit nats in defence of them. He appears , like you , to be annoyed about people not being wholly devoted to that European language , English , and is upset about multi lingual roadsigns. It’s you that’s annoyed. It shows in everyone of your posts . Its you that’s annoyed because there are road signs in English and projecting it at others .
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:51:06 GMT
of course. Im not trying to refute that Scots speak our own native languages , in fact , over on the Scottish threads , im arguing with one of your fellow brit nats in defence of them. He appears , like you , to be annoyed about people not being wholly devoted to that European language , English , and is upset about multi lingual roadsigns. It’s you that’s annoyed. It shows in everyone of your posts . Its you that’s annoyed because there are road signs in English and projecting it at others . im enjoying your hypocrisy in not learning British , and your ignorance about English being a European tongue . you are inventing things again. Can you show us where ive demanded English roadsigns are abolished or taken down? if you cant , we will excuse you once more for making things up while squirming on that hook benny.
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