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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:00:07 GMT
Are they foreign languages Thomas ? 😁 definitely. Oh dear 😁 |
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Post by Ripley on Oct 1, 2024 16:01:45 GMT
The simple answer is that we are an island off the coast of Europe . There isnt a great need to know other European languages. When I stayed in Nice it was a 30 minute train ride to Italy . Many European mainland have greater ties to bordering countries , travel through those countries ,some even have been invaded or invaded bordering countries . The usual suspects will criticise Brits for not learning languages that they don’t need to learn but that’s what they do best , criticise for no reason . I suspect the same people would cry ‘ racist ‘ at those who criticise migrants that fail to learn English when they live in England . I always thought that Europe's conglomeration of small countries was the reason that people needed to acquire one another's languages for the purpose of trading. Over time, English has become dominant, but that is no reason to believe it will be permanent. It can go the way of Latin. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:05:26 GMT
every language spoken in these islands is a European language. For a small island , there historically has been a great need to speak and understand various European languages , and your own English language is essentially a mix of French German and danish. So not sure about the geographical argument. Historically and currently 20 miles of water has never been a barrier to European languages . It has because it it were not there would be more Brits speaking the various European languages . do you not see the irony of a non homogenous group you call brits , who dont speak British , but speak European languages ? why aren't you speaking native British then ? |
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:08:41 GMT
why oh dear? dont you think the natives should speak their native language? I mean , we hear it every day from the brit nats on forums like this. We have happy jack in scotland having a meltdown about Gaelic roadsigns , and John of gwent demanding welshmen speaking welsh get deported to .....errrr .................fuck knows. meanwhile. , the brits are too lazy to even bother learning their own language , and want to speak some half French part danish European language from northern Germany instead. oh dear.... |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:09:11 GMT
The simple answer is that we are an island off the coast of Europe . There isnt a great need to know other European languages. When I stayed in Nice it was a 30 minute train ride to Italy . Many European mainland have greater ties to bordering countries , travel through those countries ,some even have been invaded or invaded bordering countries . The usual suspects will criticise Brits for not learning languages that they don’t need to learn but that’s what they do best , criticise for no reason . I suspect the same people would cry ‘ racist ‘ at those who criticise migrants that fail to learn English when they live in England . I always thought that Europe's conglomeration of small countries was the reason that people needed to acquire one another's languages for the purpose of trading. Over time, English has become dominant, but that is no reason to believe it will be permanent. It can go the way of Latin. It may but that’s not my point and you know it . My point is that there no compelling reading to speak mainland Europe languages in the UK because there is no need to. In parts of Europe there is a need to and there are historical reasons that it happens . For instance the UK was successfully invaded by ether Germany or France then there would be far more French and or German speakers in the UK. Re the Norman invasion of England .. But disregarding that , if there was a need to speak European languages in the UK then more UK people would speak them . |
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:10:53 GMT
The simple answer is that we are an island off the coast of Europe . There isnt a great need to know other European languages. When I stayed in Nice it was a 30 minute train ride to Italy . Many European mainland have greater ties to bordering countries , travel through those countries ,some even have been invaded or invaded bordering countries . The usual suspects will criticise Brits for not learning languages that they don’t need to learn but that’s what they do best , criticise for no reason . I suspect the same people would cry ‘ racist ‘ at those who criticise migrants that fail to learn English when they live in England . I always thought that Europe's conglomeration of small countries was the reason that people needed to acquire one another's languages for the purpose of trading. Over time, English has become dominant, but that is no reason to believe it will be permanent. It can go the way of Latin. The English have already been deprived of their native language ,anglo saxon , and a half French language forced on them instead , with a bit of a pr stunt , they called it English . Its already happened ,and will happen again . |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:11:47 GMT
It has because it it were not there would be more Brits speaking the various European languages . do you not see the irony of a non homogenous group you call brits , who dont speak British , but speak European languages ? why aren't you speaking native British then ? It’s not an irony it’s simple fact. Brits tend not speak other European languages because there is no need to speak any other language than English . |
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:13:34 GMT
I always thought that Europe's conglomeration of small countries was the reason that people needed to acquire one another's languages for the purpose of trading. Over time, English has become dominant, but that is no reason to believe it will be permanent. It can go the way of Latin. It may but that’s not my point and you know it . My point is that there no compelling reading to speak mainland Europe languages in the UK because there is no need to. In parts of Europe there is a need to and there are historical reasons that it happens . For instance the UK was successfully invaded by ether Germany or France then there would be far more French and or German speakers in the UK. Re the Norman invasion of England .. But disregarding that , if there was a need to speak European languages in the UK then more UK people would speak them . eh? The British isles in every part of history has been multi lingual. English as a language is nearly 1600 years old , and the native English were German speakers , whose language was virtually indistinguishable for centuries from west German. Your nobility spoke French similarly for centuries , and from what I recall , the House of Lords still use French in their opening ceremonies. English is a product of European invasions. If you hadn't been successfully invaded , england and its language wouldn't exist. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:15:26 GMT
do you not see the irony of a non homogenous group you call brits , who dont speak British , but speak European languages ? why aren't you speaking native British then ? It’s not an irony it’s simple fact. Brits tend not speak other European languages because there is no need to speak any other language than English . English isnt britians native , or official language. There is two native British languages that I know of , interrelated and my question once gain why if you identify as a brit dont you speak your own language , British ? The germans speak German , French speak French , and so on. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:17:12 GMT
why oh dear? dont you think the natives should speak their native language? I mean , we hear it every day from the brit nats on forums like this. We have happy jack in scotland having a meltdown about Gaelic roadsigns , and John of gwent demanding welshmen speaking welsh get deported to .....errrr .................fuck knows. meanwhile. , the brits are too lazy to even bother learning their own language , and want to speak some half French part danish European language from northern Germany instead. oh dear.... There’s nothing stopping ‘ natives’ speaking their own languages . The average Glaswegian can easily find the language of his ancestors online and learn it . From then in he refuse to speak any other language except that . However , he’s not going to , is he? |
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:20:41 GMT
why oh dear? dont you think the natives should speak their native language? I mean , we hear it every day from the brit nats on forums like this. We have happy jack in scotland having a meltdown about Gaelic roadsigns , and John of gwent demanding welshmen speaking welsh get deported to .....errrr .................fuck knows. meanwhile. , the brits are too lazy to even bother learning their own language , and want to speak some half French part danish European language from northern Germany instead. oh dear.... There’s nothing stopping ‘ natives’ speaking their own languages . The average Glaswegian can easily find the language of his ancestors online and learn it . From then in he refuse to speak any other language except that . However , he’s not going to , is he? My native language is Scots , and I speak it every day. As do many Glaswegians. Glasgow is also home to one of the biggest gaidhlig speaking population in scotland.So what we can do as you suggest is already happening , as it always has. The point was vinny inferred the brits aren't taught foreign languages , I corrected him , you took offence..... Whats stopping you learning British ? |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:21:54 GMT
It may but that’s not my point and you know it . My point is that there no compelling reading to speak mainland Europe languages in the UK because there is no need to. In parts of Europe there is a need to and there are historical reasons that it happens . For instance the UK was successfully invaded by ether Germany or France then there would be far more French and or German speakers in the UK. Re the Norman invasion of England .. But disregarding that , if there was a need to speak European languages in the UK then more UK people would speak them . eh? The British isles in every part of history has been multi lingual. English as a language is nearly 1600 years old , and the native English were German speakers , whose language was virtually indistinguishable for centuries from west German. Your nobility spoke French similarly for centuries , and from what I recall , the House of Lords still use French in their opening ceremonies. English is a product of European invasions. If you hadn't been successfully invaded , england and its language wouldn't exist. Eh? I’m sure that ancient Brits use to have their own language too. None of that refutes the fact that Brits do not need to speak other European languages because if they did then they would . |
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:22:33 GMT
why oh dear? dont you think the natives should speak their native language? I mean , we hear it every day from the brit nats on forums like this. We have happy jack in scotland having a meltdown about Gaelic roadsigns , and John of gwent demanding welshmen speaking welsh get deported to .....errrr .................fuck knows. meanwhile. , the brits are too lazy to even bother learning their own language , and want to speak some half French part danish European language from northern Germany instead. oh dear.... There’s nothing stopping ‘ natives’ speaking their own languages . The average Glaswegian can easily find the language of his ancestors online and learn it . From then in he refuse to speak any other language except that . However , he’s not going to , is he? oh by the way , the British have twice attempted to stop the Scottish natives speaking their native languages , in both the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries , with your countries language being forced upon Scots. Has anyone except yourselves ever stopped you brit learning and speaking British as an every day community language? |
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2024 16:23:51 GMT
eh? The British isles in every part of history has been multi lingual. English as a language is nearly 1600 years old , and the native English were German speakers , whose language was virtually indistinguishable for centuries from west German. Your nobility spoke French similarly for centuries , and from what I recall , the House of Lords still use French in their opening ceremonies. English is a product of European invasions. If you hadn't been successfully invaded , england and its language wouldn't exist. Eh? I’m sure that ancient Brits use to have their own language too. None of that refutes the fact that Brits do not need to speak other European languages because if they did then they would . Welsh and Cornish are the native British languages , both are being spoken today. Why aren't you learning British is my question ? Why are you writing to me in a European language instead of native British from these islands ? |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 1, 2024 16:24:41 GMT
There’s nothing stopping ‘ natives’ speaking their own languages . The average Glaswegian can easily find the language of his ancestors online and learn it . From then in he refuse to speak any other language except that . However , he’s not going to , is he? My native language is Scots , and I speak it every day. As do many Glaswegians. Glasgow is also home to one of the biggest gaidhlig speaking population in scotland.So what we can do as you suggest is already happening , as it always has. The point was vinny inferred the brits aren't taught foreign languages , I corrected him , you took offence..... Whats stopping you learning British ? It’s you that seems to take offence and projecting it at me . Maybe you are annoyed because you have been reminded of the fact that Brits do not tend to speak European languages because they don’t need to . |
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