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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 23, 2024 7:18:31 GMT
I do not believe remigration is possible too many obstacles and opponents and propaganda. Repatriation of illegals and fraudulent citizenships are certainly a possibility that may cause some angst in places but the price is probably worth paying. The framework for a remigration scheme already exists thanks to Enoch Powell's prescience in insisting that the 1971 Immigration Act included a provision for assisted voluntary returns. The Blairites tinkered with the text to disqualify British citizens from the scheme, but that is easily repealed.
As it stands today the successor legislation to the 1971 Act (as amended) provides the authority for the Home Secretary to a) assist voluntary leavers and b) assist individuals to decide whether to become voluntary leavers.
A properly funded and enforceable scheme could begin with the easy targets of the illegal and fraudulent, but later extended to other undesirable groups such as the indigent, the criminal and those requiring state benefits to sustain themselves, the latter including those with large families.
There would no doubt be loud squawks of outrage from the usual quarters but there is little question that an effective and appropriately targeted remigration scheme would prove very popular and electorally beneficial for the party that has the courage to implement it.
I'd note also that the topic is receiving close attention in several European countries including the previously unlikely cases of Denmark and Sweden. Both cases, but particularly the latter, highlight the role that a radical minority party can play in influencing government policy, which to me is a more realistic aspiration for Reform than forming the government itself, especially in a FPTP system. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 23, 2024 7:43:24 GMT
I do not believe remigration is possible too many obstacles and opponents and propaganda. Repatriation of illegals and fraudulent citizenships are certainly a possibility that may cause some angst in places but the price is probably worth paying. The framework for a remigration scheme already exists thanks to Enoch Powell's prescience in insisting that the 1971 Immigration Act included a provision for assisted voluntary returns. The Blairites tinkered with the text to disqualify British citizens from the scheme, but that is easily repealed.
As it stands today the successor legislation to the 1971 Act (as amended) provides the authority for the Home Secretary to a) assist voluntary leavers and b) assist individuals to decide whether to become voluntary leavers.
A properly funded and enforceable scheme could begin with the easy targets of the illegal and fraudulent, but later extended to other undesirable groups such as the indigent, the criminal and those requiring state benefits to sustain themselves, the latter including those with large families.
There would no doubt be loud squawks of outrage from the usual quarters but there is little question that an effective and appropriately targeted remigration scheme would prove very popular and electorally beneficial for the party that has the courage to implement it.
I know the framework is there, I had not realised the Blairites tinkered with it. The problem is as a voluntary scheme it would have to have oodles of cash thrown at it and many people will not wish to go. I cannot see any form of coercion receiving any sort of legislative approval no matter what the circumstances so I think pragmatism is the only approach at the moment. The illegal and the fraudulent should be the main targets and even getting those removed would be a success currently beyond our wildest dreams. Returning to definitions and what one regards as native then that opens a host of problems that are realistically insurmountable and in many respects best left well alone. The pressure should be to be part of the British whole and removing the current support of denigration of all things British both historically and culturally. We are too far down the Multicultural/multi-ethnic route to return, we can reverse to a better point but it will be against the tide. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 23, 2024 8:30:51 GMT
Re 'oodles of cash': yes, I did note that any such scheme needs to properly funded. The maximum amount under the present scheme is £3,000, payable after you have left the UK.
In comparison, Denmark offers up to €30,600.
On the other hand, consider the oodles of cash that low-earning (or non-earning) migrants receive from the taxpayer, and not just cash but other benefits in kind such as schooling and healthcare.
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 23, 2024 9:03:24 GMT
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Post by sandypine on Sept 23, 2024 11:42:41 GMT
Re 'oodles of cash': yes, I did note that any such scheme needs to properly funded. The maximum amount under the present scheme is £3,000, payable after you have left the UK. In comparison, Denmark offers up to €30,600. On the other hand, consider the oodles of cash that low-earning (or non-earning) migrants receive from the taxpayer, and not just cash but other benefits in kind such as schooling and healthcare. The problem is that low earning migrants also pay a level of tax and NI and tax as they spend in the economy so it is not a clear cut balance. We have to deal with the issues that make everything else difficult and that is illegal migration, strict border control, fraudulent citizenship awards and visa overstayers. |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 23, 2024 12:20:17 GMT
No thoughts whatsoever until he's had a chance to prove himself.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 23, 2024 12:23:27 GMT
No thoughts whatsoever until he's had a chance to prove himself. You know that he is the right man for the job as the usual lefties are out with their knives.. |
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