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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2024 20:23:28 GMT
Are you so dumb that you do not understand what Far-Right issues are? Hitler was far-right, and the Russians with there elitist desires for increased control or expansion, either are far-right, or they are making a good effort at behaving as if they are. Was that a little slip of a definition creeping in there. That seems to be having an elite who desire increased control and expansion a rightist policy. The AfD are liberal in their outlook are particularly adverse to elites usurping democracy and have no desire to expand borders. So they cannot be far right. So the opinion of a Rightist clears the Far-Right AfG from being far-right, ha ha, that is exactly what I would expect, and it wouldn't matter what I posted about the far-right you would do exactly the same. The problem for you is that you cannot just brush aside the history of the horrors of Far-Right governments. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 28, 2024 20:25:18 GMT
Was that a little slip of a definition creeping in there. That seems to be having an elite who desire increased control and expansion a rightist policy. The AfD are liberal in their outlook are particularly adverse to elites usurping democracy and have no desire to expand borders. So they cannot be far right. So the opinion of a Rightist clears the Far-Right AfG from being far-right, ha ha, that is exactly what I would expect, and it wouldn't matter what I posted about the far-right you would do exactly the same. The problem for you is that you cannot just brush aside the history of the horrors of Far-Right governments. What makes me a rightist? I have not cleared the AfD, you did. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 28, 2024 20:41:39 GMT
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Post by Orac on Sept 28, 2024 20:44:21 GMT
He is attempting to draw a parallel but refuses to explain or unpack the comparison. It is tactic known as smearingTut tut, that is a nasty distortion of my open references to history. It doesn't really matter what you are using as a comparison / parallel. The fact you won't / can't explain or unpack it, means you are smearing |
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2024 22:12:24 GMT
So the opinion of a Rightist clears the Far-Right AfG from being far-right, ha ha, that is exactly what I would expect, and it wouldn't matter what I posted about the far-right you would do exactly the same. The problem for you is that you cannot just brush aside the history of the horrors of Far-Right governments. What makes me a rightist? I have not cleared the AfD, you did. No I didn't, your ever ongoing defense of the Far-Right makes you a Rightist, so don't throw in your twisted lies in an attempt to make sense of your ridiculous position. Smart mouthing only makes you an immature Rightist. |
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2024 22:19:01 GMT
Tut tut, that is a nasty distortion of my open references to history. It doesn't really matter what you are using as a comparison / parallel. The fact you won't / can't explain or unpack it, means you are smearingLIAR. I have made my point very very clear, I worn Rightists and everyone else, to be wary of the Far-Right, whose history of killing, torturing and or raping of thousands of their own civilians is a very real reality, and all attempts to nip Rightism in the bud should be made by all decent people. |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 28, 2024 23:28:48 GMT
It doesn't really matter what you are using as a comparison / parallel. The fact you won't / can't explain or unpack it, means you are smearingLIAR. I have made my point very very clear, I worn Rightists and everyone else, to be wary of the Far-Right, whose history of killing, torturing and or raping of thousands of their own civilians is a very real reality, and all attempts to nip Rightism in the bud should be made by all decent people. You haven't been very clear at all and I agree you appear to be smearing. Are you saying the AfD shouldn't be democratically elected because the German political class describe them as far-right, and because of what the Nazi's did? Yet, when you unpack their policies they don't nearly look as far-right as the media would have you believe, and you've put no real meat on the bone in that regard either. You are using history to conjure up a dramatic narrative of what will happen if the AfD are democratically elected without any evidence, again this looks like agenda with paranoia thrown in for good measure and little substance to your so-called 'warnings'. |
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Post by see2 on Sept 29, 2024 7:43:57 GMT
LIAR. I have made my point very very clear, I worn Rightists and everyone else, to be wary of the Far-Right, whose history of killing, torturing and or raping of thousands of their own civilians is a very real reality, and all attempts to nip Rightism in the bud should be made by all decent people. You haven't been very clear at all and I agree you appear to be smearing. Are you saying the AfD shouldn't be democratically elected because the German political class describe them as far-right, and because of what the Nazi's did? Yet, when you unpack their policies they don't nearly look as far-right as the media would have you believe, and you've put no real meat on the bone in that regard either. You are using history to conjure up a dramatic narrative of what will happen if the AfD are democratically elected without any evidence, again this looks like agenda with paranoia thrown in for good measure and little substance to your so-called 'warnings'. 1. I have been very very clear in terms of my position, that you and other Rightists CHOOSE to ignore my explained position, is a helpful insight into the Rightist mind. 2. I have in no way suggested the insinuation in your first, contrived question, which is just your Rightist way of trying to make yourself feel better. 3. The history of Far-Right nasty extremism speaks for itself. Unfortunately Rightists appear to have a blocking system that blanks out things they have no wish to see, or hear or to read about. 4, Is just a nasty dishonest, as per what Rightists tend to do, attack on myself. Shame on all of you Rightists. Their 'Dark Legend' rules. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 29, 2024 7:50:36 GMT
It seems any kind of stepping outside the box to try and stop the problems associated with the damage wreaked on them by the establishment is somehow far right. So does this mean the establishment is actually far left or just losing control of the plebs.
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Post by see2 on Sept 29, 2024 8:02:41 GMT
It seems any kind of stepping outside the box to try and stop the problems associated with the damage wreaked on them by the establishment is somehow far right. So does this mean the establishment is actually far left or just losing control of the plebs. The establishment has so far dealt with this matter in accordance with the Laws that exist. That makes them honest and democratic, while at the same time failing to fix the problem. Starmer believes he has some answers, only time will tell if he has or not. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 29, 2024 8:19:33 GMT
It doesn't really matter what you are using as a comparison / parallel. The fact you won't / can't explain or unpack it, means you are smearingLIAR. I have made my point very very clear, I worn Rightists and everyone else, to be wary of the Far-Right, whose history of killing, torturing and or raping of thousands of their own civilians is a very real reality... How i am lying? You are comparing two things to demonstrate how one is very negative, but are refusing to examine whether the comparison itself is valid. It would be like me comparing you to a rapist but refusing to examine or question whether you had committed rape. Of course it is smearing. |
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Post by see2 on Sept 29, 2024 8:33:03 GMT
LIAR. I have made my point very very clear, I worn Rightists and everyone else, to be wary of the Far-Right, whose history of killing, torturing and or raping of thousands of their own civilians is a very real reality... How i am lying? You are comparing two things to demonstrate how one is very negative, but are refusing to examine whether the comparison itself is valid. It would be like me comparing you to a rapist but refusing to examine or question whether you had committed rape. Of course it is smearing. The accusation that I am smearing, when I am explaining the dangers of far-right extremism, is a lie. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 29, 2024 8:35:28 GMT
It seems any kind of stepping outside the box to try and stop the problems associated with the damage wreaked on them by the establishment is somehow far right. So does this mean the establishment is actually far left or just losing control of the plebs. The establishment has so far dealt with this matter in accordance with the Laws that exist. That makes them honest and democratic, while at the same time failing to fix the problem. Starmer believes he has some answers, only time will tell if he has or not. You sure about that, he seems to have spent most of his time taking back handers and working out more ways for him and his cronies to get richer at the plebs expense, while living in some fantasy he has a majority of people who believe in him, I would say it's a fair assessment. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 29, 2024 8:39:43 GMT
How i am lying? You are comparing two things to demonstrate how one is very negative, but are refusing to examine whether the comparison itself is valid. It would be like me comparing you to a rapist but refusing to examine or question whether you had committed rape. Of course it is smearing. The accusation that I am smearing, when I am explaining the dangers of far-right extremism, is a lie. If you were making a case that the comparison was valid, then you would be explaining the reasoning behind your position. You aren't doing that - in fact, you refuse to do that. You are smearing. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 29, 2024 8:40:15 GMT
What makes me a rightist? I have not cleared the AfD, you did. No I didn't, your ever ongoing defense of the Far-Right makes you a Rightist, so don't throw in your twisted lies in an attempt to make sense of your ridiculous position. Smart mouthing only makes you an immature Rightist. You gave a definition that did not fit the AfD and how can I defend a position that only you and a lot of others declare as a position but will not tell us what it is? |
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