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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2024 14:42:30 GMT
It says it on the internet so it must be true .😀 Please define far- right and the exact parallels the AfD has to the Nazi party . No it says so on Wiki which is hardly a bastion of reliable facts and figures - only truly ignorant people use Wiki as their first ( and only) point of reference And some truly ignorant people can't even be bothered to look it up for themselves. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 28, 2024 14:48:26 GMT
So far I have only pointed out the German definition of AfG being far-right... No you haven't. What is this "Definition" and can you provide a link? |
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2024 15:16:38 GMT
So far I have only pointed out the German definition of AfG being far-right... No you haven't. What is this "Definition" and can you provide a link? Don't cut my post just so that you can lie about me. My point is about the historical dangers of the Far-Right when in control. Do you agree that the far-right once in control are ruthless killers who also torture and rape their own citizens? |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 28, 2024 15:34:01 GMT
So far See2 is like a preacher ranting that sin leads to worse sin but can’t define what sin is .
He’s using the term ‘ far right ‘ in objective terms but either fails to define it or tries to define it in subjective terms .” Google has the answer, Germans know it .You are ignorant because you don’t , won’t , can’t know it”
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Post by sandypine on Sept 28, 2024 17:00:11 GMT
Tell me what the right consists of and I will tell you. There is a move to Nationalism and to more effective control of immigration all through Europe but then I would not suspect the SNP of being 'far right' nor would I say the Labour party, who have stated that immigration is too high, are of risk as being far right. Being aware of the History of what you seem to believe is the 'far right' indicates that they selected leftish policies as a route to power and promised much to the people like for the many not the few, British jobs for British workers, we will only allow in those we need. I am not aware of a Western politically moderate country in the 20th century indulging in dictatorship that is guilty of mass murder, torture and or rape of its own citizens, if you know of one, please name it and quote some information on it. The Western murderous dictatorships of the 20th cent. were far right regimes. OK what made them far right? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 28, 2024 17:03:04 GMT
Don't cut my post just so that you can lie about me. No lie - you said it, now please back it up. My point is about the historical dangers of the Far-Right when in control. Do you agree that the far-right once in control are ruthless killers who also torture and rape their own citizens? How would we know? You've yet to define "Far Right". However many far left regimes, eg the Nazis, USSR etc. have done exactly such. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 28, 2024 17:05:22 GMT
He is attempting to draw a parallel but refuses to explain or unpack the comparison. It is tactic known as smearing
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2024 19:30:29 GMT
I am not aware of a Western politically moderate country in the 20th century indulging in dictatorship that is guilty of mass murder, torture and or rape of its own citizens, if you know of one, please name it and quote some information on it. The Western murderous dictatorships of the 20th cent. were far right regimes. OK what made them far right? There is no need for me to take you by the hand, stop being deliberately obtuse, look at their history. |
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2024 19:32:37 GMT
He is attempting to draw a parallel but refuses to explain or unpack the comparison. It is tactic known as smearingTut tut, that is a nasty distortion of my open references to history. It seems that Rightists have no wish to educate themselves. |
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2024 19:37:47 GMT
Don't cut my post just so that you can lie about me. No lie - you said it, now please back it up. My point is about the historical dangers of the Far-Right when in control. Do you agree that the far-right once in control are ruthless killers who also torture and rape their own citizens? How would we know? You've yet to define "Far Right". However many far left regimes, eg the Nazis, USSR etc. have done exactly such. Are you so dumb that you do not understand what Far-Right issues are? Hitler was far-right, and the Russians with there elitist desires for increased control or expansion, either are far-right, or they are making a good effort at behaving as if they are. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 28, 2024 19:45:48 GMT
Still no definition offered . Just ‘ go figure’ and ‘you are being obtuse’.
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Post by sandypine on Sept 28, 2024 19:54:54 GMT
OK what made them far right? There is no need for me to take you by the hand, stop being deliberately obtuse, look at their history. I am looking, I have looked and what policies or acts made them far right during their periods of power? |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 28, 2024 19:56:44 GMT
He is attempting to draw a parallel but refuses to explain or unpack the comparison. It is tactic known as smearingTut tut, that is a nasty distortion of my open references to history. It seems that Rightists have no wish to educate themselves. On the contrary the anti-right have no wish to educate and put flesh on the bare bones of warnings. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 28, 2024 20:00:25 GMT
No lie - you said it, now please back it up. How would we know? You've yet to define "Far Right". However many far left regimes, eg the Nazis, USSR etc. have done exactly such. Are you so dumb that you do not understand what Far-Right issues are? Hitler was far-right, and the Russians with there elitist desires for increased control or expansion, either are far-right, or they are making a good effort at behaving as if they are. Was that a little slip of a definition creeping in there. That seems to be having an elite who desire increased control and expansion a rightist policy. The AfD are liberal in their outlook are particularly adverse to elites usurping democracy and have no desire to expand borders. So they cannot be far right. |
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2024 20:16:30 GMT
There is no need for me to take you by the hand, stop being deliberately obtuse, look at their history. I am looking, I have looked and what policies or acts made them far right during their periods of power? More asinine deviation from a Rightest who is doing his best to defend the far-right by appearing to be dumb. |
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