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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2024 16:16:39 GMT
I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, let alone on the Country. I feel the same about this government. Judge Labour in 5 years time, at least by then you should be better informed. No, I'll judge them on their past record, which has always been dire, and their recent actions which indicate that this time won't be any different. This government has no past record to speak of. New Labour were very successful which is why the full 'Black Legend' approach has been launched against them by Tory propagandists, PMs. MPs and the easily led, such as yourself. The truth is, as in your approach to New Labour, you are just not politically honest enough to give credit where it is due.
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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2024 16:19:55 GMT
Thank you, and the slide to the right continues. What makes Reform Right wing. Their leader has a record of supporting the Right-Wing of the Conservative party.
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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2024 16:23:29 GMT
What makes Reform Right wing. Oh gawd don't start him off again.....LOL If he knew the history of Farage he wouldn't have asked the question. But all he is concerned with is supporting Rightists.
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 5, 2024 16:40:45 GMT
I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, let alone on the Country. Judge Labour in 5 years time, at least by then you should be better informed. Judge Labour in 5 years time, at least by then you should be better informed.
They've already done more than enough damage and expounded enough barefaced lies in their first three months to judge them now as being even worse than first thought possible Who knew that Sir Kneeler doesn't even buy his own underpants in M&S like normal people but has a mate buy them for him , has ''work'' clothes bought for him ( tax law usually ensures that ''work'' clothes must have an external label detailing that they are ''work'' clothes to be tax deductible) and has accepted three times as much freebies than his nearest freebie rival ( also a Labour MP) , who knew that whilst Prince William ''slums it'' in Aston Villa's stands , Sir Kneeler has for years , been accepting many tens of thousands of pounds of hospitality tickets and private boxes from Arsenal (and others) even while leader of the opposition ? (They've even started giving away our strategic overseas territories and we will have to pay hundreds of millions annually of taxpayers' money to continue to use our military base there )
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 5, 2024 16:48:13 GMT
I feel the same about this government. No, I'll judge them on their past record, which has always been dire, and their recent actions which indicate that this time won't be any different. This government has no past record to speak of. New Labour were very successful which is why the full 'Black Legend' approach has been launched against them by Tory propagandists, PMs. MPs and the easily led, such as yourself. The truth is, as in your approach to New Labour, you are just not politically honest enough to give credit where it is due. New Labour with the War criminal and one eyed history teacher in charge was an absolute disaster - the highly successful pension industry was destroyed by their politics of envy , an illegal war was held , ''our'' gold stock was deliberately sold off at the lowest possible price , Lloyds bank was decimated in a hamfisted attempt to deal with a UK economic crisis, benefit scroungers were given handout rises to equal and exceed gross salary levels scroungers could only previously have dreamed of and resulting in them never wanting to ever work again. Maybe they wrote polite thank you notes to journalists who had given them soft interviews ? They might have been one of their rare successes?
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 5, 2024 16:51:32 GMT
I feel the same about this government. No, I'll judge them on their past record, which has always been dire, and their recent actions which indicate that this time won't be any different. This government has no past record to speak of. New Labour were very successful which is why the full 'Black Legend' approach has been launched against them by Tory propagandists, PMs. MPs and the easily led, such as yourself. The truth is, as in your approach to New Labour, you are just not politically honest enough to give credit where it is due. legend:
a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition from earlier times
synonym: myth
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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2024 18:08:35 GMT
This government has no past record to speak of. New Labour were very successful which is why the full 'Black Legend' approach has been launched against them by Tory propagandists, PMs. MPs and the easily led, such as yourself. The truth is, as in your approach to New Labour, you are just not politically honest enough to give credit where it is due. legend:
a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition from earlier times
synonym: myth If you have a brain then look up the so called Dark Legend that help to destroy the Spanish Empire, then you would be able to join in with a sensible comment.
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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2024 18:15:20 GMT
This government has no past record to speak of. New Labour were very successful which is why the full 'Black Legend' approach has been launched against them by Tory propagandists, PMs. MPs and the easily led, such as yourself. The truth is, as in your approach to New Labour, you are just not politically honest enough to give credit where it is due. New Labour with the War criminal and one eyed history teacher in charge was an absolute disaster - the highly successful pension industry was destroyed by their politics of envy , an illegal war was held , ''our'' gold stock was deliberately sold off at the lowest possible price , Lloyds bank was decimated in a hamfisted attempt to deal with a UK economic crisis, benefit scroungers were given handout rises to equal and exceed gross salary levels scroungers could only previously have dreamed of and resulting in them never wanting to ever work again. Maybe they wrote polite thank you notes to journalists who had given them soft interviews ? They might have been one of their rare successes? I think it is criminal to post distortions of the truth ^^ You, as one of the easily led, are so full of Conservative dishonest propaganda that you end up posting complete and utter rubbish. Come back when you actually start thinking for yourself, and actually know what you are posting about. If that is at all possible.
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 5, 2024 18:55:37 GMT
New Labour with the War criminal and one eyed history teacher in charge was an absolute disaster - the highly successful pension industry was destroyed by their politics of envy , an illegal war was held , ''our'' gold stock was deliberately sold off at the lowest possible price , Lloyds bank was decimated in a hamfisted attempt to deal with a UK economic crisis, benefit scroungers were given handout rises to equal and exceed gross salary levels scroungers could only previously have dreamed of and resulting in them never wanting to ever work again. Maybe they wrote polite thank you notes to journalists who had given them soft interviews ? They might have been one of their rare successes? I think it is criminal to post distortions of the truth ^^ You, as one of the easily led, are so full of Conservative dishonest propaganda that you end up posting complete and utter rubbish. Come back when you actually start thinking for yourself, and actually know what you are posting about. If that is at all possible. I think it is criminal to post distortions of the truthWhy do you continue to do it if you think it's so wrong?
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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2024 19:06:19 GMT
I think it is criminal to post distortions of the truth ^^ You, as one of the easily led, are so full of Conservative dishonest propaganda that you end up posting complete and utter rubbish. Come back when you actually start thinking for yourself, and actually know what you are posting about. If that is at all possible. I think it is criminal to post distortions of the truthWhy do you continue to do it if you think it's so wrong? Oh I see, schoolyard comments on an adult forum ^^ Not unusual from the limited lesser Rightists.
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Post by sandypine on Oct 5, 2024 20:23:30 GMT
What makes Reform Right wing. Their leader has a record of supporting the Right-Wing of the Conservative party. What makes the RW of of the Conservative party RW. What outlook do they have, policies they advocate and actions they have taken that makes them RW? So far you have mentioned and warned about the threat of Rightists and referred to history and the opinion of others but you seem singularly unwilling to name one, let alone several, polic(y)(ies)that make anyone you so label as RW. I can at least refer to LW policies advocated by many you call Rightists but all that seems to matter is that you say it is therefore it is so. I may give up soon.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 5, 2024 20:25:45 GMT
I think it is criminal to post distortions of the truth ^^ You, as one of the easily led, are so full of Conservative dishonest propaganda that you end up posting complete and utter rubbish. Come back when you actually start thinking for yourself, and actually know what you are posting about. If that is at all possible. I think it is criminal to post distortions of the truthWhy do you continue to do it if you think it's so wrong?He realy is a target rich enviroment....
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