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Post by sheepy on Aug 27, 2024 17:18:00 GMT
Why didn't the 'liar' tell that to the people during the GE campaign , because he's a con artist that's why.
If he'd have told the truth about what he was going to do if he became Prime minister he may still have won the GE but nowhere near the majority he won by.
What he is doing now is exactly what he planned to do, the fact he's blaming the Tories was the excuse he was always going to use, but some of us were already on to his con tricks, he's a lying, deceitful, disgusting excuse for a human being.
I don't think Starmer downplayed the mess the Tories had left the country in during the GE campaign, that pretty much was his GE campaign I thought. The same as the Tories campaign after Labour were done the last time then, I genuinely cannot believe that people on political forums haven't learnt how it works by now. I find it rather scary at times. Others I just shake my head and think how anyone can still believe all this garbage. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 27, 2024 17:18:55 GMT
I don't think Starmer downplayed the mess the Tories had left the country in during the GE campaign, that pretty much was his GE campaign I thought. The same as the Tories campaign after Labour were done the last time then, I genuinely cannot believe that people on political forums haven't learnt how it works by now. I find it rather scary at times. Others I just shake my head and think how anyone can still believe all this garbage. Yup. Politics really is the art of lying . |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 27, 2024 17:31:09 GMT
I don't think Starmer downplayed the mess the Tories had left the country in during the GE campaign, that pretty much was his GE campaign I thought. The same as the Tories campaign after Labour were done the last time then, I genuinely cannot believe that people on political forums haven't learnt how it works by now. I find it rather scary at times. Others I just shake my head and think how anyone can still believe all this garbage. Oh no I've seen that pattern, reminds me of a scene in a little known mafia film called Knockaround Guys, an older mob guy is putting some youngsters to rights and says "In my day you got to the top by being better than the guy ahead of you, your generation just waits for the guy ahead of you to fuck up". That's pretty much what every opposition party has done in my lifetime. |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 27, 2024 17:46:20 GMT
Dont you think the wealthy can support the pooor Tony Blair didn't have a pot to piss in before he became Prime Minister, he banged on and on and on about being the party for the poor, his party would fight the social injustice between the rich and the poor, they will level up society blah blah blah
Tony Blair 27 years later he's worth well over £80 million, he's got a property empire worth millions on top of that, Tony Blair got rich off the backs of poor people, he's the worst kind, I bet he doesn't give the 'poor people' a second thought, they've made him a multimillionaire and set for life and live a life of luxury wining and dining with some of the worlds most wealthiest people ....... way to go Tony.
Are you endvious of sir tony |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 27, 2024 17:47:57 GMT
The same as the Tories campaign after Labour were done the last time then, I genuinely cannot believe that people on political forums haven't learnt how it works by now. I find it rather scary at times. Others I just shake my head and think how anyone can still believe all this garbage. Oh no I've seen that pattern, reminds me of a scene in a little known mafia film called Knockaround Guys, an older mob guy is putting some youngsters to rights and says "In my day you got to the top by being better than the guy ahead of you, your generation just waits for the guy ahead of you to fuck up". That's pretty much what every opposition party has done in my lifetime. In all honesty I think this time nobody wants to wait until the lies catch up and the New Labour form of austerity hits everyone while they actually couldn't give a fuck about anyone else but their own power base and wealth. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 27, 2024 18:01:42 GMT
SECURITY!! Show this gentleman the door.👮🏼♀️ |
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Post by Totheleft on Aug 27, 2024 18:03:36 GMT
SECURITY!! Show this gentleman the door.👮🏼♀️ Yep seconded |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 27, 2024 18:15:31 GMT
Two million pensioners are getting their winter fuel allowance cut.
You're saying none of them need it?
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 27, 2024 18:29:33 GMT
Two million pensioners are getting their winter fuel allowance cut. You're saying none of them need it? million OAPs are losing it |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 27, 2024 21:16:06 GMT
Labour will do what they did in the 60s when Healey said he would’ soak the rich until the pips squeak’. The rich being anyone who isn’t poor now. Tax and spend It will be trip down memory lane . I hope not - Labours soaking of the rich ended up with them going cap in hand to the IMF for a bailout. |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 27, 2024 22:29:09 GMT
Tony Blair didn't have a pot to piss in before he became Prime Minister, Privately educated, Oxford graduate, qualified barrister. He absolutely had a pot to piss in before he became PM. Qualified barrister or not he was fucking shit as PM and we're all worse off as a result of Blair's legacy. The world is a more dangerous place due to his cavalier wars against Serbia and Iraq and his appeasement of Putin, along with the feting of the Oligarchs. The laundering of money which took place in our country, the skyrocketing housing market pushing up living costs, his ceding of sovereignty to Brussels without any democratic reforms.
He was fucking abysmal.
And if you hate Brexit, bear in mind that bastard signed treaties without democratic consent to pile up resentment and make Brexit inevitable.
He did NOT ask us, not even ONCE if we wanted the EU to have any sovereignty over us.
It was supposed to be a free trade agreement only.
Not a superstate.
He should have held a referendum and ASKED us.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 27, 2024 23:05:51 GMT
Starmer has chosen austerity, so much for "change".
The shithouse is gunning for those who work hard all their life. I wonder now whether his train drivers have the shoulders broad enough to house, clean and feed those crossing the Channel on rubber boats.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 27, 2024 23:37:59 GMT
Tax his land, tax his wage,
Tax his bed in which he lays.
Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
Teach him taxes is the rule.
Tax his cow, tax his goat,
Tax his pants, tax his coat.
Tax his ties, tax his shirts,
Tax his work, tax his dirt.
Tax his chew, tax his smoke,
Teach him taxes are no joke.
Tax his car, tax his grass,
Tax the roads he must pass.
Tax his food, tax his drink,
Tax him if he tries to think.
Tax his sodas, tax his beers,
If he cries, tax his tears.
Tax his bills, tax his gas,
Tax his notes, tax his cash.
Tax him good and let him know
That after taxes, he has no dough.
If he hollers, tax him more,
Tax him until he’s good and sore.
Tax his coffin, tax his grave,
Tax the sod in which he lays.
Put these words upon his tomb,
“Taxes drove me to my doom!”
And when he’s gone, we won’t relax,
We’ll still be after the inheritance tax.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 27, 2024 23:39:25 GMT
The State Pension is not a universal benefit or a benefit of any description, it is "The State Pension". This story is about the views of a very small handfull of Labour Party advisors, and is not Labour Party policy, or government policy. As a supporter of the Labour Party, I would be open to halting or reducing the State Pension to the very wealthy or super rich, but would be opposed to means testing the state pension based on the fact that a person owns a home of modest value. As a supporter of the Labour Party you’ve said we can no longer afford the luxury of the winter fuel allowance yet you as usual steadfastly refuse to answer any awkward questions like can we afford then the luxury of housing migrants in hotel which costs many times that allowance,any chance of an answer? That’ll be a no. If the bibby Stockholm type of vessel was good enough to house military personnel why isn’t it good enough for asylum seekers,the same applies to redundant military buildings. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 28, 2024 0:09:23 GMT
Quote from Annabel Denham... Starmer’s Britain is a worse nightmare than anyone imagined
When it became clear the general election was a foregone conclusion, the doomsayers (myself included) warned that Britain would soon experience a stomach-churning bout of buyers’ remorse.
Once the satisfaction of whipping the incompetent Tories began to fade, they would realise the country would be under the management of a socialist government fixated with class and “inequality” and determined to soak “the rich”.
But even the pessimists assumed a Starmer government would have little room for manoeuvre on the economy given our fiscal position. How wrong we were – the past six weeks have only served to reinforce the truism that Labour are far more effective in power than the Tories.
Keir Starmer has done more in under two months as prime minister than Rishi Sunak was able to accomplish in two years.
And this is just the beginning. There will be no problem, real or perceived, that Labour won’t attempt to fix with more regulation, higher taxes and a larger state, however unlikely their policies are to succeed.
Underprivileged children struggling at school? Slap VAT on private school fees.
Crumbling public services? Hand staff – many of whom are clearly underperforming – whopping pay increases with no requirement of improved productivity.
A fiscal black hole? Hammer “wealthy” pensioners by removing a benefit that helps ensure millions don’t spend their winters in cold and damp homes.
Of course, there are other ways to lower bills – ones which don’t involve a state-owned energy firm, accelerating the switch to expensive EVs or punishing North Sea oil and gas companies with high windfall taxes – but these are entirely incompatible with Labour’s fanatical green ideology.
We can’t be sure what will come next, but can hazard a decent guess. Labour’s seething contempt for the “undeserving” over-50s means cuts to pension tax relief or the tax-free pension lump sum are a possibility.
Higher rate payers could soon pay an effective 10pc tax charge on their retirement contributions. And if retirees’ wealth is fair game, they could bring in a pension death tax, or scrap the seven-year inheritance tax (IHT) rule.
“Unearned” wealth is clearly in their sights, with many now anticipating capital gains tax (CGT) will be brought in line with income tax.www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/admit-starmer-callous-class-war-miss-sunak/How very true. There is nothing new about this Labour government. It's classic socialism, tax the shit out of anyone with a few quid in order to support millions on welfare. |
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