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Post by Vinny on Aug 31, 2024 15:41:45 GMT
There's antimony under the UK.
Forget dictatorship hell holes like China or Russia.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 31, 2024 20:46:44 GMT
There's antimony under the UK. Forget dictatorship hell holes like China or Russia. We used to mine it. I see there are some possible reserves, but this move will really screw the US military. |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 31, 2024 20:53:14 GMT
There are reserves.
And screw the Chinese military.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 1, 2024 8:27:15 GMT
There are reserves. And screw the Chinese military. The problem is antimony is essential in many military applications, one of which is heat shields. It's a matter of how much you need. Germanium and gallium are also two others on the restricted list, but those two have essential applications in chips and night vision sensors, so only a tiny bit is needed, albeit at extremely high purities. The US used to produce it but shut down over 20 years ago. You need the mines and you need the industry to purify this stuff. As with many rare earths, it is uneconomic to extract on its own due to the very small concentrations in the rock, so what you really need is mining and processing facilities for more common elements and as you extract millions of tons of ore to get your iron or copper, you can collect the traces of the rare earth as a by-product.
Please explain how you intend to screw the Chinese military without heat shields or night vision?
Yes you can potentially fix the problem, but China's strategy is to put your dictator's military out of business, so many other problems will be imposed too, and eventually you will topple. Of course you could instead decide not to fight them, but I know you like blood.
Big gobs, no antimony, is a recipe for disaster.
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Post by Vinny on Sept 1, 2024 8:33:32 GMT
Ceramic heat shields have you heard of those?
And we never needed China for anything military before.
Giving an enemy a gateway into our military supply chain would be the biggest tactical blunder in history.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 1, 2024 9:49:59 GMT
Ceramic heat shields have you heard of those? And we never needed China for anything military before. Giving an enemy a gateway into our military supply chain would be the biggest tactical blunder in history. Yes. I'm no expert in heat shields, but I would guess different materials are needed for different applications. You have to consider strength and brittleness, weight and so on.
I don't think you can replace it. I mean looking at the US response, they have chosen to counter this problem by recycling.
Anyway, supply chain restrictions is just one of the tools the have in the box to stay one step ahead of the Americans. You know people say that some 20 -30 or more years ago China was so weakly defended that any sizeable military power could have walked straight in and took the country over. Their strategy in the 80s was to go balls out, work like Trojans in what they call 996 9am-9pm x 6d in order to build up capital to invest in industry. Nearly all the profits went into reinvestment to buy better machines, make stuff faster better and cheaper and just hope to dear life that no one would notice a great hole in your defences.
Their strategy was be nice and don't upset anyone, give them what they want at cheaper prices and lie low, don't be flash. As all of this was going on and China made some extremely shrewd long-term investments, one of which was rare earths and another was microchips. We here in this country seemed to enjoy bashing them as crap and poor. Over in China they favoured being called crap and poor since no one saw them as a threat. You get the idea. They wanted the big bad US dog to fall asleep of boredom. It woke up in 2014 when Tianhe-2 was announced up and running. I have an article on it here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-2 After that was a US ban on server chips which were the Intel Xeon ones and this came in 2015 and then after that was the Huawei ban. Today China's military has been built up into a mighty power. They need it now. They didn't need it before. The US has created its own enemy which has grown stronger than they are. But China never wanted ot be enemies with the US. A lot of Chinese respected the US including the boss of Huawei. They bought a lot of US products because they liked the Americans, hard as it is to believe now, but that goes right back to Nixon in 72. |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 1, 2024 10:06:55 GMT
You would hand a military edge to an enemy government.
Such a policy would be mental.
We need to rebuild our own military, our own arms industry and become self sufficient militarily.
We cannot depend on the Yanks for our defence. We need independent capability.
Get a licence to produce F16's domestically and build 200 F16's for the RAF.
Build new tank factories.
And for coal for making steel, start mining again until we can produce sufficient hydrogen.
Hit imports from BRICS shitholes with 200% tariffs.
Tax TEMU and Amazon sales of imported shit.
Support local production over China.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 1, 2024 10:45:43 GMT
You would hand a military edge to an enemy government. Such a policy would be mental. We need to rebuild our own military, our own arms industry and become self sufficient militarily. We cannot depend on the Yanks for our defence. We need independent capability. Get a licence to produce F16's domestically and build 200 F16's for the RAF. Build new tank factories. And for coal for making steel, start mining again until we can produce sufficient hydrogen. Hit imports from BRICS shitholes with 200% tariffs. Tax TEMU and Amazon sales of imported shit. Support local production over China. I was listening to someone in the defence procurement business on Radio 4 and he was saying that if you are a military contractor, the price you have to charge is inversely proportional to the number you produce. Everything is mil spec so it only has a military market. To give you an idea of how much this costs in practice, there is a firm in Newbury which makes 1 m vehicle top steerable satellite dishes. They are the same thing as one would use for TV reception but a larger dish and for many years T V satellite dishes have been supplied which are steerable. I think for that set-up you are looking at about £500. These people charge £50 000 a piece, so you have a 100x markup approximately. For a hundred times more you would expect a more precision engineered drive servo system and built to withstand a lot of abuse. If we were in the mass TV upper end of the market then perhaps you'd expect it to cost one to two grand, but for military it is about the most expensive market. Broadcast TV is a pricy market, but nowhere near these things. I've looked at prices of electronic components as well for military, and in the things I've seen the markup is generally 50-100 times the price. China can build military hardware at between 5-10 times cheaper than the US. I only know all of this because China releases a lot of information pertaining to costs and specs of what they produce. Today China does not need to hide anymore and can be open about what they have got and how much it cost them. |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 1, 2024 10:48:58 GMT
The government of China is our enemy.
It is a dictatorship.
What is so difficult about this?
No deals, no appeasement.
Down with dictatorships.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 1, 2024 11:46:16 GMT
The government of China is our enemy. It is a dictatorship. What is so difficult about this? No deals, no appeasement. Down with dictatorships. You pin all your understanding on an badly defined word. I've spent a lot of time watching their government and listening to what they say and seeing what they do, so I have a far more sophisticated understanding than what is explained in the British press. Their leader is unusual in many ways. He is a sophisticated man and he has had a long track record of getting things right and making stuff work. He's a chemical engineer and something of an academic from his earlier life.
When one compares to Starmer, I'm strongly of the view our problem is we have one right here in Britain, but the difference is the bastard cares nothing for the people he governs. The way President Xi sees himself from his own words is he isn't that important in the grand scheme of things, but just one person contributing his bit to a much larger and longer term project which is China. It is a very nationalist country, so if you want to get an inkling of understanding, that's how they all think over there. They have flags on everything. In a sense they are a bit like ourselves with our parades and all.
He sees himself as a servant of the nation and he tries to lead by example. Now if we switch to Starmer he told us a load of cobblers before the election, so he is in office under false pretences, and that is why his popularity has dropped 28 point since. An international survey put president Xi on 91% I think it was, which was a few points up from the last time they surveyed it. Indeed all the Far Eastern nations get far higher leader popularity rating than the Western nations. Another strong indicator was the Western nations are unhappy bastards. It was called something like the world happiness survey. You can look it up and get a feel for how it is all over the world. |
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Post by Rebirth on Sept 1, 2024 13:15:13 GMT
The government of China is our enemy. It is a dictatorship. What is so difficult about this? No deals, no appeasement. Down with dictatorships. You pin all your understanding on an badly defined word. I've spent a lot of time watching their government and listening to what they say and seeing what they do, so I have a far more sophisticated understanding than what is explained in the British press. Their leader is unusual in many ways. He is a sophisticated man and he has had a long track record of getting things right and making stuff work. He's a chemical engineer and something of an academic from his earlier life.
When one compares to Starmer, I'm strongly of the view our problem is we have one right here in Britain, but the difference is the bastard cares nothing for the people he governs. The way President Xi sees himself from his own words is he isn't that important in the grand scheme of things, but just one person contributing his bit to a much larger and longer term project which is China. It is a very nationalist country, so if you want to get an inkling of understanding, that's how they all think over there. They have flags on everything. In a sense they are a bit like ourselves with our parades and all.
He sees himself as a servant of the nation and he tries to lead by example. Now if we switch to Starmer he told us a load of cobblers before the election, so he is in office under false pretences, and that is why his popularity has dropped 28 point since. An international survey put president Xi on 91% I think it was, which was a few points up from the last time they surveyed it. Indeed all the Far Eastern nations get far higher leader popularity rating than the Western nations. Another strong indicator was the Western nations are unhappy bastards. It was called something like the world happiness survey. You can look it up and get a feel for how it is all over the world. Our dictatorship is a two-party system where both sides lie to the people and support the two-tier police state. The people are stuck in doublethought, where we are a democracy and a dictatorship at the same time.
We know China is a single-party state. It's out in the open, but at the end of the day your thread appears to relate to trade. There was no objection to China's system when it suited our beloved benefactors using China's manufacturing powers.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 1, 2024 14:13:12 GMT
You pin all your understanding on an badly defined word. I've spent a lot of time watching their government and listening to what they say and seeing what they do, so I have a far more sophisticated understanding than what is explained in the British press. Their leader is unusual in many ways. He is a sophisticated man and he has had a long track record of getting things right and making stuff work. He's a chemical engineer and something of an academic from his earlier life.
When one compares to Starmer, I'm strongly of the view our problem is we have one right here in Britain, but the difference is the bastard cares nothing for the people he governs. The way President Xi sees himself from his own words is he isn't that important in the grand scheme of things, but just one person contributing his bit to a much larger and longer term project which is China. It is a very nationalist country, so if you want to get an inkling of understanding, that's how they all think over there. They have flags on everything. In a sense they are a bit like ourselves with our parades and all.
He sees himself as a servant of the nation and he tries to lead by example. Now if we switch to Starmer he told us a load of cobblers before the election, so he is in office under false pretences, and that is why his popularity has dropped 28 point since. An international survey put president Xi on 91% I think it was, which was a few points up from the last time they surveyed it. Indeed all the Far Eastern nations get far higher leader popularity rating than the Western nations. Another strong indicator was the Western nations are unhappy bastards. It was called something like the world happiness survey. You can look it up and get a feel for how it is all over the world. Our dictatorship is a two-party system where both sides lie to the people and support the two-tier police state. The people are stuck in doublethought, where we are a democracy and a dictatorship at the same time.
We know China is a single-party state. It's out in the open, but at the end of the day your thread appears to relate to trade. There was no objection to China's system when it suited our beloved benefactors using China's manufacturing powers.
Indeed, quite so. The way China explains it is this is our traditional system. They have been ruled by emperors for thousands of years, but the tradition in China is for the benevolent leader. It runs though their entire culture, that the person in charge holds a great responsibility for the care of those who they are in charge of, and this starts with the family. Elders are respected and their wisdom is listened to.
My view is I have no right to try and change them so it suits my country's political system. Indeed our government are arch hypocrites since they preach diversity and when they get a taste of it they freak out and go mental, which is about the image Chinese government officials have of the British government right now. They say, you guys just don't make any sense anymore.Like during covid the government spent all its time attacking China, but China was saying poor British, they are badly prepared, and they sent a whole jumbo jet full of scientific experts to advise the UK government on covid for free. This is the strange thing. They care for our welfare more than our own government do. I've had so me chats to the Chinese about this and tried to help them understand the way it works here.
Anyway, yes it is a very strange culture, but variety is the spice of life and you find they have some great things we don't have. I believe we can do good business if the Brits take the time to study the Chinese culture. They are pretty easy to deal with and I find they are pretty honest as well, especially in trade.
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