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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 15, 2024 9:32:44 GMT
I believe that the writting is on the wall for Israel and The West The ascendancy of the worlds new superpower "China" will make a difference to world order, and with China now firmly allied to both Russia and Iran, I believe that change is coming. But even more to the point is China's growing influence in the third world, particularly in Africa, combined with waning influence by the West. The amount of investment in Africa by China is staggering, and China is building military bases and buying influence. We have allready seen the bitter and very acrimonius charges aimed at Israel by African nations such as South Africa, not long ago thought to be a pro-Western nation. The West would do well if it GOT SERIOUS about its supposed policy of the "Two State Solution" and stopped pussy-footing around with Israel. The United States and its closest allies are at loggerheads with most of the developing world on this key foreign policy issue. It does not bode well for the West at all, and if we are to stand a chance of keeping the developing world on side, we should look at forcing a two state solution. The West, may one day in the future be "The Old Order" that no one takes any notice of any more, and has greatly diminished influence. I dare say you're positively moist at the prospect, fiddles.
However, you would do well to remember that China is not known for its tolerance towards your beloved Islam.
And should China become the premier superpower Islam may also end up in the dustbin of history.
I suppose that would be one positive.
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 15, 2024 9:42:27 GMT
I believe that the writting is on the wall for Israel and The West The ascendancy of the worlds new superpower "China" will make a difference to world order, and with China now firmly allied to both Russia and Iran, I believe that change is coming. But even more to the point is China's growing influence in the third world, particularly in Africa, combined with waning influence by the West. The amount of investment in Africa by China is staggering, and China is building military bases and buying influence. We have allready seen the bitter and very acrimonius charges aimed at Israel by African nations such as South Africa, not long ago thought to be a pro-Western nation. The West would do well if it GOT SERIOUS about its supposed policy of the "Two State Solution" and stopped pussy-footing around with Israel. The United States and its closest allies are at loggerheads with most of the developing world on this key foreign policy issue. It does not bode well for the West at all, and if we are to stand a chance of keeping the developing world on side, we should look at forcing a two state solution. The West, may one day in the future be "The Old Order" that no one takes any notice of any more, and has greatly diminished influence. I dare say you're positively moist at the prospect, fiddles.
However, you would do well to remember that China is not known for its tolerance towards your beloved Islam.
And should China become the premier superpower Islam may also end up in the dustbin of history.
I suppose that would be one positive.
I wonder why you frequently post Utter Shite ? Been an atheist I love no faith or religion, including Islam, but unlike you I do believe in something called "Freedom Of Religion", all religions, its a bit like "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". China cannot put and end to, or halt Islam, but it can buy favour, and that is what China seems to be doing, much to the detriment of the West.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 15, 2024 9:56:53 GMT
I believe that the writting is on the wall for Israel and The West The ascendancy of the worlds new superpower "China" will make a difference to world order, and with China now firmly allied to both Russia and Iran, I believe that change is coming. But even more to the point is China's growing influence in the third world, particularly in Africa, combined with waning influence by the West. The amount of investment in Africa by China is staggering, and China is building military bases and buying influence. We have allready seen the bitter and very acrimonius charges aimed at Israel by African nations such as South Africa, not long ago thought to be a pro-Western nation. The West would do well if it GOT SERIOUS about its supposed policy of the "Two State Solution" and stopped pussy-footing around with Israel. The United States and its closest allies are at loggerheads with most of the developing world on this key foreign policy issue. It does not bode well for the West at all, and if we are to stand a chance of keeping the developing world on side, we should look at forcing a two state solution. The West, may one day in the future be "The Old Order" that no one takes any notice of any more, and has greatly diminished influence. It seems there is a deliberate policy to make us the old order whereby our history is officially denigrated and the demands that we have open borders are continuous and working.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 15, 2024 9:59:49 GMT
I dare say you're positively moist at the prospect, fiddles.
However, you would do well to remember that China is not known for its tolerance towards your beloved Islam.
And should China become the premier superpower Islam may also end up in the dustbin of history.
I suppose that would be one positive.
I wonder why you frequently post Utter Shite ? Been an atheist I love no faith or religion, including Islam, but unlike you I do believe in something called "Freedom Of Religion", all religions, its a bit like "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". China cannot put and end to, or halt Islam, but it can buy favour, and that is what China seems to be doing, much to the detriment of the West. Would you support laws to restrict criticism of Islam by others as being 'Islamophobic'. If freedom of religion exists then freedom to call religion bunkum should exist alongside it.
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 15, 2024 10:42:13 GMT
I wonder why you frequently post Utter Shite ? Been an atheist I love no faith or religion, including Islam, but unlike you I do believe in something called "Freedom Of Religion", all religions, its a bit like "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". China cannot put and end to, or halt Islam, but it can buy favour, and that is what China seems to be doing, much to the detriment of the West. Would you support laws to restrict criticism of Islam by others as being 'Islamophobic'. If freedom of religion exists then freedom to call religion bunkum should exist alongside it. No one should be barred or restricted from criticising any religion, providing it is genuine criticism, but inciting people to commit acts based on hatred ( arson, violence, looting, criminal damage or intimidation etc ) should be, and is, a criminal offence. "Islam is a false religion" ... ""Muslims are deluded for believing in Islam" ... "the Quoran contains too many passages which are incompatable with western values" Acceptable comments "Lets go and burn down a Mosque or a Synagogue" <--- NOT acceptable
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Post by sandypine on Aug 15, 2024 14:08:19 GMT
Would you support laws to restrict criticism of Islam by others as being 'Islamophobic'. If freedom of religion exists then freedom to call religion bunkum should exist alongside it. No one should be barred or restricted from criticising any religion, providing it is genuine criticism, but inciting people to commit acts based on hatred ( arson, violence, looting, criminal damage or intimidation etc ) should be, and is, a criminal offence. "Islam is a false religion" ... ""Muslims are deluded for believing in Islam" ... "the Quoran contains too many passages which are incompatable with western values" Acceptable comments "Lets go and burn down a Mosque or a Synagogue" <--- NOT acceptable However it is not 'let us burn down a mosque' that is being sanctioned the proposal is to consider verbal attacks on Muslimness (whatever that is) and possibly be a blasphemy law by the back door. We have already seen the jailing of a man who shouted 'who the f... is Allah'. I recall the good old days of God is Dead badges.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 15, 2024 14:20:59 GMT
Well i totally understand that if you have control and already occupy areas that leaving, allowing the enemy to build up their forces and then invading again (and thus taking a lot of casualties) to take control of the land that you already controlled is not a coherent strategy. It is if that Strategy is the long-term removal of Non-Jews as a socio-political entity from that land, and if the desired method for achieving that is a decades long war of attrition that is so horrific Non-Jews are too scared to return once the fighting has ended. Israel had control of, and gave up, just Gaza, it wants total control of all Palestine - a step back to set a trap, and then a push forward once the trap is sprung is both tactically and strategically reasonable. And Likud does not care about Israeli casualties - that is why it ignored numerous warning about a Hamas build-up prior to Oct 7th, including weeks and weeks of reports from its own Watchtower Units. Israel's strategy is also a hearts and minds strategy for the wider world; every time it commits atrocities it eventually pulls back, brokers a small peace, claims any criticism if Israeli war crimes is Anti-Semitic, and then next time it goes back in it does so with even more levels of atrocity. It is desensitising the wider world to its own War Crimes. All The Best In a world of bizarre conspiracy theories that one takes the biscuit..
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 15, 2024 14:24:44 GMT
I believe that the writting is on the wall for Israel and The West The ascendancy of the worlds new superpower "China" will make a difference to world order, and with China now firmly allied to both Russia and Iran, I believe that change is coming. Hmm - I'll reserve judgement. I can remember back in the 70's and 80's when Japan was going to be the next world superpower - and then it all came crashing down for them.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 15, 2024 14:27:10 GMT
Would you support laws to restrict criticism of Islam by others as being 'Islamophobic'. If freedom of religion exists then freedom to call religion bunkum should exist alongside it. No one should be barred or restricted from criticising any religion, providing it is genuine criticism, but inciting people to commit acts based on hatred ( arson, violence, looting, criminal damage or intimidation etc ) should be, and is, a criminal offence. "Islam is a false religion" ... ""Muslims are deluded for believing in Islam" ... "the Quoran contains too many passages which are incompatable with western values" Acceptable comments "Lets go and burn down a Mosque or a Synagogue" <--- NOT acceptable What about this as it is topical: ‘Allah, Allah, Allah, who the f*ck is Allah’
Do you think there should be blasphemy Laws to prevent people saying this?
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 15, 2024 15:28:12 GMT
I dare say you're positively moist at the prospect, fiddles.
However, you would do well to remember that China is not known for its tolerance towards your beloved Islam.
And should China become the premier superpower Islam may also end up in the dustbin of history.
I suppose that would be one positive.
I wonder why you frequently post Utter Shite ?Been an atheist I love no faith or religion, including Islam, but unlike you I do believe in something called "Freedom Of Religion", all religions, its a bit like "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". China cannot put and end to, or halt Islam, but it can buy favour, and that is what China seems to be doing, much to the detriment of the West. Intellectual capacity does not stretch to anything else; just look at the juvenile avatar. All The Best
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 15, 2024 15:46:41 GMT
Well i totally understand that if you have control and already occupy areas that leaving, allowing the enemy to build up their forces and then invading again (and thus taking a lot of casualties) to take control of the land that you already controlled is not a coherent strategy. It is if that Strategy is the long-term removal of Non-Jews as a socio-political entity from that land, and if the desired method for achieving that is a decades long war of attrition that is so horrific Non-Jews are too scared to return once the fighting has ended. Israel had control of, and gave up, just Gaza, it wants total control of all Palestine - a step back to set a trap, and then a push forward once the trap is sprung is both tactically and strategically reasonable. And Likud does not care about Israeli casualties - that is why it ignored numerous warning about a Hamas build-up prior to Oct 7th, including weeks and weeks of reports from its own Watchtower Units. Israel's strategy is also a hearts and minds strategy for the wider world; every time it commits atrocities it eventually pulls back, brokers a small peace, claims any criticism if Israeli war crimes is Anti-Semitic, and then next time it goes back in it does so with even more levels of atrocity. It is desensitising the wider world to its own War Crimes. All The Best You've been reading ConspiracytheoriesRus.com
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 15, 2024 17:16:36 GMT
It is if that Strategy is the long-term removal of Non-Jews as a socio-political entity from that land, and if the desired method for achieving that is a decades long war of attrition that is so horrific Non-Jews are too scared to return once the fighting has ended. Israel had control of, and gave up, just Gaza, it wants total control of all Palestine - a step back to set a trap, and then a push forward once the trap is sprung is both tactically and strategically reasonable. And Likud does not care about Israeli casualties - that is why it ignored numerous warning about a Hamas build-up prior to Oct 7th, including weeks and weeks of reports from its own Watchtower Units. Israel's strategy is also a hearts and minds strategy for the wider world; every time it commits atrocities it eventually pulls back, brokers a small peace, claims any criticism if Israeli war crimes is Anti-Semitic, and then next time it goes back in it does so with even more levels of atrocity. It is desensitising the wider world to its own War Crimes. All The Best You've been reading ConspiracytheoriesRus.com No. But I did read the 1977 Likud Charter, did you? All The Best
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Post by Tinculin on Aug 16, 2024 9:20:04 GMT
ProVeritas - I received 3 reports about your rhetoric across different threads in the past few days where you've insulted other posters.
Cease with the personal attacks & tone it back.
Thanks.
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