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Post by morayloon on Aug 13, 2024 2:28:48 GMT
It's seems very weird to me that a woman has been arrested for retweeting the (now known to be) misinformation about the name of the Southport "suspect". If the police are going to start monitoring the internet and arresting people posting misinformation they won't have time to deal with any real crime at all. Pointless. But what about policing the BBC's misinformation? There is some point to that because so many people get their news from the BBC. Yet Jeremy Bowen repeated the claims of Hamas (a proscribed terrorist organisation) that the IDF (Israeli Defence Force) had blown up the hospital in Gaza, killing over 500 people. This caused a massive amount of trouble across the globe and led to many countries having to increase their terrorist alert state. It was a massive incitement to violence ro muslims around the world. But when we found out that it was Hamas who had blown up the hospital Bowen was asked to apologise and he refused. Sheer arrogance. I'd like to see him banged up. I think you'll find that it was the Israelis. Their denials are very hollow given the number of hospitals they have bombed to smithereens. Then there are the schools, the mosques, the, so called, "safe" zones, where people go to for "safety". The Israelis then, 'inexplicably', bomb the areas in question. Netanyahu and his government are out of control. Israel is a rogue, terrorist state. 10 months and they still haven't rooted out Hamas. As a result of their incompetence, the IDF finds that it must continue with the mass slaughter. Killing people for the sole reason that they are Palestinian! Genocide and Ethnic cleansing that is what we are witnessing. The West, unbelievably, stands by and lets the Israelis get off, literally, with murder. Whatever Israel holds over the US, and the West in general, will come out at some point. History will not look very kindly on the stance taken by the US, the UK, Germany etc. What gets me is the rank hypocrisy of allowing Israel to compete in sporting events when Russia was banned straight away for its invasion of Ukraine.
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Post by morayloon on Aug 13, 2024 2:41:14 GMT
Yes. Blair has a lot to answer for - and Alistair Campbell too. The war in Iraq was patently illegal. More to the point it was obvious to anyone who knew anything about the ME that removing Saddam would be hugely destabilising. Crazy. Yet the BBC seem to regard Blair and Campbell as gurus. They're always having them on to give their ludicrous opinions. Both should be in jail. "Always having them on"? When were they on? How many times were they on? The person who is "always on" is Farage! And, his take on the rioting was out of this world. Far from your "BBC is LW" fantasies, it is RW ideologues who turn up ad nauseum. Take QT as an example, Farage has been on numerous times, as have others of the Right. RW commentators appear more often than those of the left etc. I think you should come clean, admit you haven't watched BBC News programmes for years, and that you now get your fix from watching the odious GB News.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 13, 2024 6:22:25 GMT
It's seems very weird to me that a woman has been arrested for retweeting the (now known to be) misinformation about the name of the Southport "suspect". If the police are going to start monitoring the internet and arresting people posting misinformation they won't have time to deal with any real crime at all. Pointless. But what about policing the BBC's misinformation? There is some point to that because so many people get their news from the BBC. Yet Jeremy Bowen repeated the claims of Hamas (a proscribed terrorist organisation) that the IDF (Israeli Defence Force) had blown up the hospital in Gaza, killing over 500 people. This caused a massive amount of trouble across the globe and led to many countries having to increase their terrorist alert state. It was a massive incitement to violence ro muslims around the world. But when we found out that it was Hamas who had blown up the hospital Bowen was asked to apologise and he refused. Sheer arrogance. I'd like to see him banged up. I think you'll find that it was the Israelis. Their denials are very hollow given the number of hospitals they have bombed to smithereens. Then there are the schools, the mosques, the, so called, "safe" zones, where people go to for "safety". The Israelis then, 'inexplicably', bomb the areas in question. Netanyahu and his government are out of control. Israel is a rogue, terrorist state. 10 months and they still haven't rooted out Hamas. As a result of their incompetence, the IDF finds that it must continue with the mass slaughter. Killing people for the sole reason that they are Palestinian! Genocide and Ethnic cleansing that is what we are witnessing. The West, unbelievably, stands by and lets the Israelis get off, literally, with murder. Whatever Israel holds over the US, and the West in general, will come out at some point. History will not look very kindly on the stance taken by the US, the UK, Germany etc. What gets me is the rank hypocrisy of allowing Israel to compete in sporting events when Russia was banned straight away for its invasion of Ukraine. This is so wrong it's not worth a reply.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 13:48:24 GMT
It isn't my fault you rely on misinterpretation and abuse as an argument. Your psychological problems isn't something anyone on here can help you with. So you didn't say this: Oh, wait, yes you did. Now back it up with facts or admit that you lied. All The Best
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Post by morayloon on Aug 13, 2024 13:57:08 GMT
I think you'll find that it was the Israelis. Their denials are very hollow given the number of hospitals they have bombed to smithereens. Then there are the schools, the mosques, the, so called, "safe" zones, where people go to for "safety". The Israelis then, 'inexplicably', bomb the areas in question. Netanyahu and his government are out of control. Israel is a rogue, terrorist state. 10 months and they still haven't rooted out Hamas. As a result of their incompetence, the IDF finds that it must continue with the mass slaughter. Killing people for the sole reason that they are Palestinian! Genocide and Ethnic cleansing that is what we are witnessing. The West, unbelievably, stands by and lets the Israelis get off, literally, with murder. Whatever Israel holds over the US, and the West in general, will come out at some point. History will not look very kindly on the stance taken by the US, the UK, Germany etc. What gets me is the rank hypocrisy of allowing Israel to compete in sporting events when Russia was banned straight away for its invasion of Ukraine. This is so wrong it's not worth a reply. Nothing wrong about it. You just can't face reality. Your blind acceptance of Israeli genocide is quite astounding. Perhaps it's best that you keep your mouth shut, especially when you seem incapable of articulating what you think I got wrong!!! Hiding behind " ... it's not worth a reply" is very revealing!
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 14:09:00 GMT
I think you'll find that it was the Israelis. Their denials are very hollow given the number of hospitals they have bombed to smithereens. Then there are the schools, the mosques, the, so called, "safe" zones, where people go to for "safety". The Israelis then, 'inexplicably', bomb the areas in question. Netanyahu and his government are out of control. Exactly. How many times have the IDF attacked Hospitals, Schools, Mosques, Refugee Camps, Aid Depots, etc claiming "Hamas were using them"? I have actually lost count. But here's one of the more recent ones: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8erk37yn2noHow many times have they provided any evidence at al that Hamas were using them? None. How many times have they allowed independent observers to determine the presence of Hamas at these places? That's none as well. Israeli claims that Hamas is present at every civilian site they bomb are just ridiculous. Akin to Anti-Semitic claims that "the Jews did it" - no matter what "it" was, that were common in the early part of the last century and before. All The Best
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 13, 2024 19:49:12 GMT
It isn't my fault you rely on misinterpretation and abuse as an argument. Your psychological problems isn't something anyone on here can help you with. So you didn't say this: Oh, wait, yes you did. Now back it up with facts or admit that you lied. All The Best Their misinformation resulted in actions that killed millions, which isn't quite the same thing as Labour killing milions. Your beloved Tony Blair like your Hamas friends never left the office. Try and think about that for a while before flaming and trolling the board with your intention to kill it.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 19:57:14 GMT
So you didn't say this: Oh, wait, yes you did. Now back it up with facts or admit that you lied. All The Best Their misinformation resulted in actions that killed millions, which isn't quite the same thing as Labour killing milions. Your beloved Tony Blair like your Hamas friends never left the office. Try and think about that for a while before flaming and trolling the board with your intention to kill it.
So now you admit that you either were factually wrong, or lied; I think we all know which. My "beloved Tony Blair"? Ha ha ha, I despise the man - New Labour was a complete betrayal of the Labour Movement and threw tens of thousands of working men and women under the bus. Can you find one single quote by me that is even remotely supportive of Hamas? No, you can't - because I have never made one, it is just another lie by you. Lies are all you have; because you lack the intelligence and integrity to debate honestly. All The Best
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 13, 2024 20:05:46 GMT
I guess this site is just full of Labour's Hamas trolls now. Nevermind.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 13, 2024 20:11:22 GMT
Their misinformation resulted in actions that killed millions, which isn't quite the same thing as Labour killing milions. Your beloved Tony Blair like your Hamas friends never left the office. Try and think about that for a while before flaming and trolling the board with your intention to kill it.
So now you admit that you either were factually wrong, or lied; I think we all know which. My "beloved Tony Blair"? Ha ha ha, I despise the man - New Labour was a complete betrayal of the Labour Movement and threw tens of thousands of working men and women under the bus. Can you find one single quote by me that is even remotely supportive of Hamas? No, you can't - because I have never made one, it is just another lie by you. Lies are all you have; because you lack the intelligence and integrity to debate honestly. All The Best I think the betrayal of the British working man was well underway in the 60s. Barbara Castle said she could not get the dockers to come out for almost anything but they came out to Westminster in support of Enoch Powel. EDIT Clause 4 is still in the dustbin is it not.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 20:12:45 GMT
I guess this site is just full of Labour's Hamas trolls now. Nevermind. But still no evidence at all I have ever supported Hamas. Because I haven't. Just more lies. The forum doesn't need more liars - it has enough; it needs people willing to debate by providing evidence to support their points of view. All The Best
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 13, 2024 20:24:36 GMT
I guess this site is just full of Labour's Hamas trolls now. Nevermind. But still no evidence at all I have ever supported Hamas. Because I haven't. Just more lies. The forum doesn't need more liars - it has enough; it needs people willing to debate by providing evidence to support their points of view. All The Best I explained my post to you when you misinterpreted and flamed my post, after you posted unprovoked personal abuse as seen on this thread. I don't take orders from militant Hamas supporters in Labour. If you want to keep posting abuse to impress your cult then so be it.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 20:31:08 GMT
But still no evidence at all I have ever supported Hamas. Because I haven't. Just more lies. The forum doesn't need more liars - it has enough; it needs people willing to debate by providing evidence to support their points of view. All The Best I explained my post to you when you misinterpreted and flamed my post, after you posted unprovoked personal abuse as seen on this thread. I don't take orders from militant Hamas supporters in Labour. If you want to keep posting abuse to impress your cult then so be it. I am not, and never have been, "in Labour". I've voted for parties other than Labour more times than I have voted for Labour. I have NEVER supported Hamas, but have repeatedly condemned their illegal actions. So you lie again. Do you actually have anything other than lies? All The Best
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 13, 2024 20:39:08 GMT
I explained my post to you when you misinterpreted and flamed my post, after you posted unprovoked personal abuse as seen on this thread. I don't take orders from militant Hamas supporters in Labour. If you want to keep posting abuse to impress your cult then so be it. I am not, and never have been, "in Labour". I've voted for parties other than Labour more times than I have voted for Labour. I have NEVER supported Hamas, but have repeatedly condemned their illegal actions. So you lie again.zz Do you actually have anything other than lies? All The Best Bloody hell are you still going, you've put the rest of us to sleep zzzzzzz
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Post by sandypine on Aug 13, 2024 20:40:54 GMT
I explained my post to you when you misinterpreted and flamed my post, after you posted unprovoked personal abuse as seen on this thread. I don't take orders from militant Hamas supporters in Labour. If you want to keep posting abuse to impress your cult then so be it. I am not, and never have been, "in Labour". I've voted for parties other than Labour more times than I have voted for Labour. I have NEVER supported Hamas, but have repeatedly condemned their illegal actions. So you lie again. Do you actually have anything other than lies? All The Best But the people of Gaza had a democratic vote and did support Hamas.
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